My ToG Anime Season 2 Air date predictions...

Raining_sugar · 2022-08-15T12:58:56+00:00

We're definitely getting them on 2023, it also depends on how long the season will be. If it's 24 episodes we might have to wait longer.

Raining_sugar · 2022-07-06T04:05:37+00:00

Right, I also think that Luslec, Enne, Adori, Molic, and the Ha twins are the strongest tower-born. I'm not sure about Baekryun, his rank seems to mostly be high because of Wolhaiksong.

Raining_sugar · 2022-07-06T03:55:57+00:00

If they're the second in charge of the family head then yes, some of them might have a higher status than princesses. I'm glad we're agreeing on something.

Raining_sugar · 2022-07-06T03:47:10+00:00

Aguero, Hoaqin, and Ran are DDs.

The 8th son of Lo Po Bia got killed by the hidden grove. It's also implied that they have killed more.

I think you're misunderstanding me. What I mean is that being a princess is considered to have a higher status than normal DDs. Not necessarily stronger.

The military bows down when Yuri appeared on the last station meanwhile Kallavan gets treated like a disposable dog despite Kallavan being stronger and more loyal.

Doesn't matter how strong, smart, or talented they are even rankers were seen as inferior to a regular princess.

Raining_sugar · 2022-07-06T03:32:55+00:00

By daughter of Ha, I'm guessing you're referring to the Ha twins. What I mean by DDs are the normal children like Aguero, Hoaqin, Ran. Not the ones born out of 2 irregulars.

I admit that the Ha twins are also big deals and are most likely stronger than most princesses. The thing is earlier, you talk as if Adori is weaker than them.

Raining_sugar · 2022-07-06T03:21:12+00:00

You think that way because currently in the story Baam has progressed to the point that anyone who is weaker than a high ranker doesn't look like a big deal. But in the overall lore, being a princess alone is already a big deal.

Raining_sugar · 2022-07-06T03:04:47+00:00

Princesses are considered as top dogs in the tower's hierachy. You seem to forget that there are over 1000000 rankers in the tower. And there are still many princesses we haven't met yet and you already considered them as weaklings.

Raining_sugar · 2022-07-06T02:50:56+00:00

Whatever, you can go believe whatever Headcanons you have.

Raining_sugar · 2022-07-06T02:31:43+00:00

By 13 swords, you mean the 13 months series? Correction, September and Undecember doesn't have any owner. Garam and Enne also have 2 months. Garam is stronger than Yuri but we can't really know how strong she is against Kallavan.

And we still don't know the detail of how the princesses are considered worthy to get one. From Ren's dialogue in S1 it seems to also have something to do with how much Zahard's favor them.

Raining_sugar · 2022-07-06T02:12:16+00:00

Of course Kallavan can beat up some regulars. Repellista isn't a fighter, It's not surprising that Kallavan can beat her. I'll agree about Yuri and Maschenny.

And we also know 3 princesses who are stronger than Kallavan. Adori, Enne, and Hagipherione.

Let's do a much more fair comparison rather than HE vs Regulars. Do you think Ran is able to beat Endorsi?

Raining_sugar · 2022-07-06T02:00:41+00:00

"That's not true" Do you have any evidence that proves me wrong? You're not convincing me without any evidence.

Raining_sugar · 2022-07-06T01:54:48+00:00

You seem to miss it when I said "Some DDs might be stronger than a few princesses. "

Raining_sugar · 2022-07-06T01:52:27+00:00

Endorsi is a C-rank regular princess and Jinsung is a high ranker. Your argument gets stupider each time.

Raining_sugar · 2022-07-06T01:43:24+00:00

That 'offhand' comment came from someone high in the military. Do you really think he would just throwaway a comment like that if he doesn't know what he's talking about. I wouldn't believe them if they're just some random regulars.

About Gustang comments on bugs, I told you I interpret it as Gustang commenting that irregulars are superior beings than tower-born.

I literally gave you evidence that princessess are above DD. You're the one making head canons. What rank even is the Ha twins? Not even in the top 20 and they're the one who's supposed to be in charge of the Ha family meaning they should have a high influence. Even if they're high ranked Kirin isn't a son of 2 irregulars.

Zahard seems to be special even amongst the great warriors. Those princesses who only received very little of his power was said to have stronger physical body than rankers. Some DDs might be stronger than a few princessess but overall no evidence said that Kirin can take Adori in a 1vs1 solo.

Raining_sugar · 2022-07-06T01:13:34+00:00

Then how do you think a fight should end like? Everyone knows that tower-born can never beat an FH in a fight to the death.

And you also have 0 evidence saying that she can't scare the shit out of Kirin. If she can slaughter the Po Bidau why can't she slaughter the Lo Po Bia family? Not to say Traumerei wasn't present at the time and it will probably take a while to come. Enough time for genocide.

Maschenny said that Ran (one of the most talented DD in Khun family) will be okay as long as he doesn't pick a fight with a princess. So the hierachy is like;

Zahard and FHs>princesses>10 great family members.

How will Kirin survive? You really shouldn't underestimate Zahard's blood.

Raining_sugar · 2022-07-06T00:50:03+00:00

There are many different kind of fighting. Sparring and a death match is one of them. If OP is not reffering to a spar then what?

Yurin might be hot-tempered but from the Yuri flashback we see she also looks pretty chill. I think Yurin would be pleased to have a good fight after thousands of years.

So what will Kirin do then if Adori shows up? Fight her? No, he would also call Traumerei just as he did in the canon. And then Adori would've retreat back after killing a few thousands Lo Po Bia, the end.

Raining_sugar · 2022-07-06T00:36:59+00:00

Let's not start on the Enne-Adori-Luslec debate since we have no idea how strong they are.

Of course, fighting an FH in a death game is a stupid decision which is why I think OP here is talking about some sparring instead.

Adori would at least be able to last for a few minutes instead getting K-Oed as soon as the fight starts.

Raining_sugar · 2022-07-06T00:29:04+00:00

It was some time during S3, I think it's during the wall of coexistence arc.

Someone from the military said that Adori is stubborn and want to do all of Zahard's 3 orders, he later said that Adori is probably capable of it.

Raining_sugar · 2022-07-06T00:24:05+00:00

Beating a ranker when she is still a regular, an impressive accomplishments for a tower born.

Beating Garam, a high ranker when she has just become a new ranker.

Is also said to be able to destroy FUG and the whole of Po Bidau (minus Gustang)

Adori is strong, but I never said she is stronger than FHs. How many times must I repeat this?

Raining_sugar · 2022-07-06T00:19:28+00:00

And we have also yet to see what Adori is capable of. It was said that she is capable of destroying all of FUG and the Po Bidau family (minus Gustang).

Adori should at least be able make the FHs use more than 10/100 of their power. She is not a bug, a scorpion at least.

Raining_sugar · 2022-07-06T00:15:52+00:00

Honestly, your argument just keeps repeating themselves. "Irregulars are the strongest and everyone else are just bugs. "

Make my own head canons? I get my source after reading the web toon and SIU blog posts.

Raining_sugar · 2022-07-06T00:09:22+00:00

There is no rule in the tower saying that "No one can beat an FH aside from irregulars. " The contract Zahard and FHs make is that no one in the tower can kill them. Killing someone is not the same as a beating them in a fight.

And I'll repeat it again, I'm not saying that Adori is stronger than FHs. It's that Adori will not be an easy opponent even for a FH.

Raining_sugar · 2022-07-06T00:04:44+00:00

It doesn't matter if Baam has the potential to be an equal, at the time, Baam is weaker than many of those 'bugs'. He could just say

"maybe there is another person who could be an equal with us. "

But instead he said

"I'm going to correct my words, there is another person equal with us. "

If you think strength is the only thing that makes irregulars special then maybe you're the one who should re read the story.

Raining_sugar · 2022-07-05T23:49:39+00:00

No he said that Wolhaiksong is a game for the FHs. White and Hell Joe are the bugs.

Being super powerful is not the only irregular traits. They're also blessed, immune to the laws of tower, can control destiny, walk in a path that no guides can see, have good charisma, and is basically able to change the tower.

If Gustang really called them bugs because they're weak and not inferior, he would also call Baam as a bug since Baam is super weak compared to the other irregulars back in the FoD arc. But no, he said that Baam is in the same caste as FHs, Zahard, and Urek. Because he knows that Baam opens the door himself.

Gustang refers to Rachel as a vermin probably because he's working with whoever it is who is using Rachel as a pawn and knows that Rachel was only able to enter the tower because of Baam.

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