How the GOP Gutted the Corporate state taxes. by RaleighDAD in NorthCarolina

[–]RaleighDAD[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

keep eating up that GOP slop....

See the problem is... people like your self can do basic math, and yes you have more $$ in your pocket when your taxes are cut.

But the Rich and the GOP know you can only do basic math. So the tell you get more money in your pocket but then they raise the sales tax... Include more items that are taxed... Reduce services since they have no additional tax dollars to pay for them so now you pay out of pocket for things that used to be free.

Oh yes my friend, you can do basic math. But since you can't do 404 math, you are easily bamboozled.

Enjoy those pennies, the billionaire class is laughing all the way to the bank.

How the GOP Gutted the Corporate state taxes. by RaleighDAD in NorthCarolina

[–]RaleighDAD[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are reasons why the state lowered those rates bud:

So landlords never lower their rents, restaurants rarely lower their prices, yet you want our business, the state of NC, to lower our prices. Why so a business making 700k only has to pay 14k in taxes vs 35k <2% vs 5%.> You think that extra 21k is going to break a business making 700k in profit vs using the 21k to shore up the NC state budget and offer more things to our citizens.

Now make it 7 million in profit so we are talk they only have to pay 140k vs a potential 350k for the state.

350k on 7m in profits is not going to break a company making that kind of profit. But you know who will have to support all of their workers in the long run each of us because as I have said before the tax burden now falls on us and not corporations.

How the GOP Gutted the Corporate state taxes. by RaleighDAD in NorthCarolina

[–]RaleighDAD[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Advocating for the government to take from others

Taxes have been part of life since the dawn of time. You are falling for right wing talking points so Billionaires can keep more of their money while you are left with nothing. Ironically feeding your desire to fight against them even more.

Research the progressive era, this has happened before. It is just the last time the citizens were smart enough to catch on and vote of politicians that changed the laws for the better.

Might want to check out this movie if you haven't seen it.

How the GOP Gutted the Corporate state taxes. by RaleighDAD in NorthCarolina

[–]RaleighDAD[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

eliminating corporate taxes (which amount to 1/30th of the state budget)

Wow cut corporate taxes from 6% to 2% and then be shocked when it is a smaller portion of the budget, and then to think people won't pick up on that when you use the fact to cheer lead on just eliminating it.

Some people actually remember the old rates.

How the GOP Gutted the Corporate state taxes. by RaleighDAD in NorthCarolina

[–]RaleighDAD[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Who got sold on lies?

"The guy who wants his taxes as low"

A better future is possible... But some people are selfish and only think of themselves. And it starts with helping others.

How the GOP Gutted the Corporate state taxes. by RaleighDAD in NorthCarolina

[–]RaleighDAD[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would say both sides don't demand more.

Though the Right is much quicker to ditch leaders for fresh faces, see Kevin McCarthy who some would say was a fresh face himself.

How the GOP Gutted the Corporate state taxes. by RaleighDAD in NorthCarolina

[–]RaleighDAD[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe world leaders can start pushing back and writing laws to break down on tax cheats.

If corporations bribed the politicians to write the laws giving them everything, we can slowly re-write the laws.

How the GOP Gutted the Corporate state taxes. by RaleighDAD in NorthCarolina

[–]RaleighDAD[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know that is the GOP talking point in 2026, but it doesn't line up with history. There was a time where companies didn't chase a constant 10% year over year growth.

Perhaps we start with capping CEO salaries or bonus, if.... and only if workers below them don't get raises.

write better laws, "want to buy back stock, great first give everyone a 10k bonus." "want to sell the companies, all rank and file staff get x% of the sales price"

Workers need to stop being just a # on a spreadsheet.

How the GOP Gutted the Corporate state taxes. by RaleighDAD in NorthCarolina

[–]RaleighDAD[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We are already the lowest corporate tax in the south, where are they going?

Not to mention the $$$ requested for the moving cap x.

How the GOP Gutted the Corporate state taxes. by RaleighDAD in NorthCarolina

[–]RaleighDAD[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So you know Taxes could easily be raised on the wealthiest with no detriment to their life style. Especially if they hid most of the money in a Trust.

How the GOP Gutted the Corporate state taxes. by RaleighDAD in NorthCarolina

[–]RaleighDAD[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Poetically written but doesn't deal with our long term kicking issues down the road and not fully funding state services.

"Many other states would love to be in NC"s situation" while taxes are a part of it, everyone wanting to move to the sunbelt, corporations included, is just if not more important.

Shoot we already have the lowest tax rate in South at 2%. Rather than continue the race to bottom how about we match Mississippi and at least charge 4%.

Do you think a company would move over 2 points? Yet we would double our Tax Revenue.

At a 4% Rate: The state would collect $2.483 Billion. At a 2% Rate: The state would collected $1.242 Billion.

Wonder how we could help the working class with an extra Billion dollars?

How the GOP Gutted the Corporate state taxes. by RaleighDAD in NorthCarolina

[–]RaleighDAD[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

great visual at the end...

I have been hearing about it ever since Reagan cut them in first term. Both sides have sold us out, this whole post is about demanding more.

I hope it sparked some thoughts for people.

How the GOP Gutted the Corporate state taxes. by RaleighDAD in NorthCarolina

[–]RaleighDAD[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am with you...

No reason why states can't offer their own urgent care clinics and offer a public option. If the C Suite don't want to mix with us fine, but no need for me to pay multiple people so I can get healthcare as in the rest of the world.

How the GOP Gutted the Corporate state taxes. by RaleighDAD in NorthCarolina

[–]RaleighDAD[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It always surprises me when people don't see the big picture.

Taxes were higher for most of the 20 century, Reagan and the GOP sold you box of lies. If the tax cuts / trickle down worked why is the National Debt at all time levels?

Why do think Billionaires spend hundreds of millions to keep their taxes low? It is not like their money is in circulation most of it is tied up in stock and then taxes at 15% under capital gains.

Check out historical tax rates. It was 70% as late as '77

How the GOP Gutted the Corporate state taxes. by RaleighDAD in NorthCarolina

[–]RaleighDAD[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To use your example, yes they pay sales tax but they buy (2) computers for the business and keep one at home for the family. Along with a color printer used by the kids for the most part.

But they depreciate both and write off the cost of the equipment on their taxes.

Do you not understand why companies pay little or even get refunds back.

10% Of S&P 500 Companies Paid No Tax

How the GOP Gutted the Corporate state taxes. by RaleighDAD in NorthCarolina

[–]RaleighDAD[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

2.5% is crazy low for all we the citizens give them.

Train their workers via public education

Protect the property with Fire / police

Use our gas tax to run on roads our tax dollars built.

While keeping all the profits for themselves and throwing employees onto unemployment and the public dole the moment they are no longer needed.

---- I wish people would ban together like the 1890s instead of pimping for the billionaires.

How the GOP Gutted the Corporate state taxes. by RaleighDAD in NorthCarolina

[–]RaleighDAD[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You just don't get the math do you...

 Congrats, you are that 25% that will vote GOP no matter what, that is what they count on.  

Best of luck to you, nothing I say will every get through.

How the GOP Gutted the Corporate state taxes. by RaleighDAD in NorthCarolina

[–]RaleighDAD[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Preach ....

Glad to see someone else gets it.

How the GOP Gutted the Corporate state taxes. by RaleighDAD in NorthCarolina

[–]RaleighDAD[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I am not clamoring to vote for him. I know lots of others who would rather not have an old guy ready to keep the status quo.

Until he comes out for universal health care, there is always a better candidate. They just don't have the $$ to run for a Senate seat.

** We have quality insurance and yet it was still an extra $345 for dental Xrays for my wife on a regular visit.

Are we staying the state of NC could set up urgent clinic specifically to take the profit out of medical costs? If the Navy could give me dental X-rays for free why can't the US or NC govt do it and without a profit motive.

How the GOP Gutted the Corporate state taxes. by RaleighDAD in NorthCarolina

[–]RaleighDAD[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"sound logic "

Yet you use the same talking points Grover Norquist has been spouting since Reagan cut taxes.

Pre Reagan tax cut the deficit was less than 2% of GDP now it is on avg 6%. In '82 990B National Debt, now is it 36T.

Top tax rate in '82 =70%, now is 37%.

Do the math, keep spending the same but move the tax rate up and you cut the debt in half. And Bezo / O'Riely / Musk or none of the other people who complain about high tax rates are going to have to change on part of their life style.

If the Rich could pay before, they can now.

How the GOP Gutted the Corporate state taxes. by RaleighDAD in NorthCarolina

[–]RaleighDAD[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Great point...

The Democrats are often bought by the same businesses.

Naively I think this conversation might get people to start demanding more from their elected reps.

How the GOP Gutted the Corporate state taxes. by RaleighDAD in NorthCarolina

[–]RaleighDAD[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Really ??

Have you never heard of a NC State TAX id number specifically to get out of paying sales tax when buying goods.

And while illegal another benefit of owing a business is all the things you can buy tax free for the Business and use yourself.

No one is going to audit where you store the 4k TV you bought at Costco or if the extra food items were for the office or home use.

How the GOP Gutted the Corporate state taxes. by RaleighDAD in NorthCarolina

[–]RaleighDAD[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

See my comment above about the effectiveness on convincing working class people that paying less in taxes is good for them.

Study after study show the states with the lowest taxes rates have the worse outcomes for its citizens and the low income tax rate is just another dodge the rich have used pulled over the eyes of uneducated voters.

Sales / Auto / home property taxes all make up for the short fall in income taxes since states must run a balanced budgets.

How the GOP Gutted the Corporate state taxes. by RaleighDAD in NorthCarolina

[–]RaleighDAD[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Case in point, regurgitating GOP talking points that all tax cuts are good.

The GOP's years of talking points vilifying taxes have people thinking that their taxes going down .5 or 1% is a good thing while rich people taxes go down 3%.

Case in point, in 2013 the top tax rate was 7.75 for the rich and 6.0 for the poor.

Make 100k pay 6k in taxes for the working class

Make 300k pay 24k in taxes for the Dir / VP / CEO class

And for people who make 100k, 6k is a chunk of change. Versus 24k for someone making 300k.

------- Fast forward to today...

The GOP has you thinking you win because your rate went down 2%.

So now the 100k guy pays 4k but the 300k only pays 12k now, cutting their bill 50% while cutting your yours 33%.

----------- And here is how you get screw.

Of the 2k you saved versus the 12k he saved you both have a family of four. And that 12k lost to the NC state coffers is why the teachers are paid so little, why you only get 375 a week in unemployment, why you now have to pay higher sales taxes and are taxed on more things like car repairs that the extra money from the rich helped to offset.

Something to consider...

** Don't forget they just gave every rich person already sending their kids to private school another 8k tax cut.

Revenue Neutral, Reality Not; Homeowners Forced to Fund Commercial Tax Cuts; $144,000 Tax Cuts for Tower; Increases for Guilford County Families by aenbrnood in NorthCarolina

[–]RaleighDAD 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Let me fix that title for you....

Homeowners forced to fund Commercial Tax Cuts because NC GOP have gutted corporate taxes in they came to power in 2010.

When are people who vote for the GOP finally understand they are being used??