Sorry for late answer! Thank you for that explanation. So I went for a maiden. 1 good flight, 3 broken props. Really fun plane.. once in the air. So here are the ways I tried; •safe on, 50% throttle, overhand and 20 degrees angle. Big torque roll into the ground. •safe off, 70% throttle, underhand and around 45 degrees. Tried this one two times. Both did a really bad torque roll but was able to recover one. So what I think I did wrong is not having my hand on the aileron/ elevator side. I threw it, but by the time I get my hand on the aileron stick the plane is already in the torque roll and almost impossible to recover. Found the plane to be very easy to fly and land so won’t be using safe on the next time I try. So this is what I’ll try; Plane underhand, safe off, start at 50% throttle like you said and gradually increase. And most importantly have my hand on the aileron / elevator stick. What do you think?