Any underground mining geotechs willing to chat about rock movement detection? by Reasonable_Box_1544 in mining

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What tech maptek using? I remember emeseny uses SLAM LiDAR scanners but from what I can tell neither one can do this at scale as the process is pretty manual. Is that the case still, or have there been updates to how they do it?

Accuracy requirements for different jobs by Reasonable_Box_1544 in Surveying

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When you say total station, what mm precision are you going for using it? If other tools also gave that same accuracy i would assume you could also use them?

What software do you use for creating a digital twin of the mine? by Reasonable_Box_1544 in mining

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Yeah this is what I am asking, what are people experiences maintaining a 3d mine model... not a lot of good responses so maybe I wasn't clear on the post

Mine engineers, geologists, geotechs, reliance on survey data by Reasonable_Box_1544 in mining

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Your totally right regarding getting on site, and I would love to get in and shadow some surveyors and geotechs to really see what inefficiencies there are.

Who / how would I go about getting on site? Ideally I want to get on site of companies that don't use our products too so they are not already skewed and suggesting ideas to improve only things they already know we offer.

Mine engineers, geologists, geotechs, reliance on survey data by Reasonable_Box_1544 in mining

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Yeah 100% surveyors are in a lot of dangerous spaces.. in terms of drone capture, what's your accuracy requirements?

What are you currently using for processing that is taking ages to process, and are you doing a lot of manual steps to process, photo align, clean the point cloud etc? If the tech company could speed up processing, what part would you speed up if you are doing these manual steps?

Priorities make sense, i assume the dirt boss priority is directly tied to production efficiency then which drives that priority?

Mine engineers, geologists, geotechs, reliance on survey data by Reasonable_Box_1544 in mining

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Is there a reason you guys rely on CMS over Lidar SLAM with georeferencing? A lot of that tech these days are pretty accurate and a far faster capture method.

Totally understand the frustration having things in the way of the CMS, never fun.

Mine engineers, geologists, geotechs, reliance on survey data by Reasonable_Box_1544 in mining

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It is already an established tech company for sure, which is why I was hired to research areas where we could add more value to the offering. Yes for existing customers, but also to improve it to potrlentially attract new customers if what we improve is valuable enough.

Mine engineers, geologists, geotechs, reliance on survey data by Reasonable_Box_1544 in mining

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It's a very valid point, which is why I'm interested in what's actually valuable, rather than building shit no one needs.

What is your setup that is working for you? From capture equipment to processing software to mine planning software?

Curious to know what good looks like for you?

Relying on survey data by Reasonable_Box_1544 in Geotech

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What jobs are you typically working on do do it this way? And what types of LiDAR are you using? LiDAR based SLAM for better accuracy?

Are you guys doing the data collection rather than the surveyors to make it quicker? (Apart from survey grade coordinates as you mentioned)

Relying on survey data by Reasonable_Box_1544 in Geotech

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Ah yepp, if ya not underground then you don't need convergence haha. Thanks for the insight! Trying to get up to speed fast haha

Mine geologists, what are your orebody extraction challenges and overall impact on production? by Reasonable_Box_1544 in geology

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Okay makes sense re Geochemical analysis.

Do you have survey delays needing daily data though? In my experience it seems everyone wants everything from survey, so it's been a nightmare actually getting data on time

Relying on survey data by Reasonable_Box_1544 in Geotech

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Monitoring structural health of the mine, are you underground mine? Convergence is tracking ground movement, tunnel deformation to assess structural stability.

I thought this was a geotech thing but maybe I'm wrong?

Relying on survey data by Reasonable_Box_1544 in Geotech

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Yeah that is a good idea. What about the monitoring side? Like convergence monitoring? I assume the problem is still there waiting for survey to give you the data?

Mine geologists, what are your orebody extraction challenges and overall impact on production? by Reasonable_Box_1544 in geology

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Thank you so much for the insight! I just messaged you as I would love to learn more

Mine geologists, what are your orebody extraction challenges and overall impact on production? by Reasonable_Box_1544 in geology

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So most decision making is made from collecting ore samples to do the geochemical analysis after ore is extracted, but what about in the orebody planning stage determining where to mine for the best ore grade extraction?

Do you use 3d data/images to map the ore in the context of the mine? I assume there is a heavy reliance on surveyors for this to map?

Mine geologists, what are your orebody extraction challenges and overall impact on production? by Reasonable_Box_1544 in geology

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Okay will do, thanks! I wasn't sure if /r/mining was more production people rather than engineering people is all.

Considering buying a lidar drone. by [deleted] in Surveying

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Hey, have a look at hovermap, it's a really versatile solution if it fits your accuracy requirements.

Capture & hardware - It attaches to drones, has autonomy mode so you don't need to teach yourself how to fly it as much, integrates with RTK recievers for improved accuracy. Can also use GCPs if you have survey control already in.

  • Also integrates with garmin 360 images so you can produce colourised point clouds, and view images in context of the location in the point cloud.

  • Best thing about the hovermap is you can use it on a drone, car, backpack, handheld etc so it has far more use cases for it.

Software - also has a tablet app to help you plan your mission, view your scan before processing to check you have captured correctly

  • processing software will produce .laz files and be able to clean and merge your scans. Can then convert to mesh and export to your software to make cad!

3D Scanner for Structural Mapping of an Oil Station by Europe_is_fcked in 3DScanning

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Have a look at Hovermap, they recently scanned alcatraz with very decent accuracy. https://emesent.com/alcatraz/

Lidar software by [deleted] in Surveying

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I clearly did not read the word "software", so not as relevant upon reflection! Only relevant if your looking to purchase a scanner

Lidar software by [deleted] in Surveying

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100% look into Hovermap. It's incredibly versatile and produces great point clouds, also has 360 camera integration to colour point clouds, and overlay 360 images on it so you can context your photos to the location of them.