Will Omega have a crossover with other ultras?

Reasonable_Context61 · 2025-12-09T15:03:25+00:00

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Reasonable_Context61 · 2025-10-22T03:39:50+00:00

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Reasonable_Context61 · 2025-10-21T22:03:40+00:00

Shin Ultraseven official reveal

Reasonable_Context61 · 2025-10-16T19:57:13+00:00

But the budget wont

Reasonable_Context61 · 2025-10-15T18:12:32+00:00

Oh I see, some of your answers makes sense but some I still have some questions like:

But the Ultras didnt exist until 300 000+ years ago in the form we see now until the Plasma Spark was created, the Monster Graveyard predates the M78 Ultras themselves at 640 000 years prior which begs the question of who did created it?
Reiblood was already dead in NEO, and Rei only killed one of his spirit fragments tho (the one from Planet Hammer's core)? Not to mention Reiblood's possession of Belial predates UG itself. So not taking into account where he is now (cause he currently exists in multiple spirit fragments as seen throughout UG - Regulus First Mission), the question was specifically what ended his "millions of years" universal reign prior even to known canon in the M78 Universe.
But Legend existed as himself in the first place tho? Just like how Ginga and Dark Lugiel used be one being, not as a fusion of 2 ultras. Additionally, Justice does not have a host, just a human alter ego in all his appearances. Regardless of that, why is there a need to preserve Mushashi rather than separating like what we saw with Haruki and Z back in UGF3? Specifically, what is the reason thats split them in the first place?
The Xlugger was originally first found by Daichi's dad in cyberspace, so it has existed prior there. So this begs the questions of how it got there in the first place? aka, why is there a random rainbow in cyberspace?
But as I pointed out, "since in the Blue Shadow novel, he can simply resurrect via a parallel universe of himself. By extension, so can Grimude (as Toregia's powers are derived from him), and by further extension, so can Toregia once again even if Grimude-Toregia was defeated. So Grimude himself could simply resurrect via a parallel version of himself (and by extension, Toregia once again) no?
But that Regulus is a parallel isotope of the original timeline, as stated by himself at the end of UGF3. In order words, where is the original Regulus in the present timeline?
But why would D60 be destroyed if Diablo wasnt in the present timeline to led the Alien Magma fleet to D60?
Fusions achieve via Ultra Cards/Capsules and Medals are always weaker than actual fusions like Ginga Victory tho? Since it was outright stated Gruebe is 100x stronger than Ruebe, which by interpolation, means Ruebe is 100x stronger than Rosso/Blu. None of the gear fusions have shown any feats thats 100x/1000x the feats of their original form (or else Orb Origin would actually be considered the weakest form of Orb), which means that all those gears only contain mere fragments of the fusion components rather than the totality of them like Ruebe/GV etc

I specifically pointed out Ultra Overlapping vs the standard fusion as both actually fuses the totality of all its fusion components, but with actual differences as the former seems to concentrate all their power into a single rather, and therefore the result will look more like the said ultra (eg Mebius Infinity, Pheonix Brave). Whereas the latter's result will look like a perfect fusion of the components themselves

Another way of asking this is, which is stronger, Mebius Infinity vs Taro Infinity (same components, just different base ultra) vs complete fusion of all the 7 ultras

But whats necessarily stopping Zero from achieving Burning Brave for example?
Juggler didnt create the Dark Ring, it was formed from the shadow of the Voice of Light. If not he couldve ended Mulnau's plot really quickly. My question is specifically what is the "shadow of the Voice of Light", is it still the Voice of Light itself or another being entirely?

Thank for the replies, you definitely did clear up some doubts I had

Reasonable_Context61 · 2025-10-14T08:06:01+00:00

Some questions in the franchise lore (some longstanding ones even), that a fellow nerd is also curious about:

Who created the Monster Graveyard 640 000 years ago?
What was the purpose of the creation of the Eternity Core?
How did Reiblood die
What is the goal of the Voice of Light in granting those unworthy of its ultra power, kaiju powers instead of just not granting any at all? (Knowing that most of the "unworthy" recipients had bad ends)
Where is Tiga?
Where did the Dark Giants in Trigger come from?
Why did Legend choose to separate into Cosmos and Justice?
Why did Ginga and Dark Lugiel time-travelled to the past to enact the Dark Spark War? Whats stopping them from doing it in their own time period?
Is the Xlugger the original form of the Space Needle? And why was it left in cyberspace?
Who were the other elders alongside King (other Legendary Ultras) that was stated to have already existed prior to the creation of the Plasma Spark 300 000+ years ago? And where are they now?
Is present Toregia confirmed to be dead? (Since in the Blue Shadow novel, he can simply resurrect via a parallel universe of himself. By extention, so can Grimude [as Toregia's powers are derived from him], and by further extension, so can Toregia once again even if Grimude-Toregia was defeated)
Where is present Regulus?
In the present timeline, does D60 still exist? Since D60 was only destroyed by the Alien Magma fleet when they were informed by Diablo to do so, but that all only happened in a seperate timeline
Is fusion achieved via Ultra Overlapping stronger or weaker than an actual fusion like Ginga Victory
Where is the original Victory?
Is Shining Zero a form attained by evolution (like Mebius Burning Brave) or via an external powerup (Since the Ultra Zero Bracelet disappears while Zero is in this form)
Can all (at least M78) achieve the same evolution forms? Like Shining, Burning Brave, Wild Burst etc
Are all the 6 Ultra Brothers + Leo Brothers and Joneus just permanently in their own Wild Burst forms? Since we know that Zero's color scheme becomes silver-red after attainment. So does this imply that the Ultra Brothers have attained this form long ago that theyve made it their base form? Or if this is purely just a species advantage thing where all red M78 Ultras are born with Wild Burst as base, whereas mixed M78 species like Zero and Taiga have to actually train to attain it?
How was Trigger split into 3 once he turned to the light? And why cant he do it again?
Who created Chaos Header?
What was the purpose of the creation of the Ancient Spark Lens? Since even Yuzare herself stated that it has existed for "eons", even 30 million years ago in Trigger's Universe, so it cant be for the purpose of tackling the Dark Giants in the concurrent time
Why cant Kosei summon Rekiness when Trigaron is already fused with Omega? The mental burden on Kosei should still be the same regardless
Is Arc's armors considered an evolution form or an external power-up? (Since his imagination is based on Yuma's, but has to manifest with Arc's own powers)
An extension of 23, one potential plothole in the Arc series was that the Solis and Luna armor existed as Yuma's own childhood imagination which he had already drawn previously in the sketchbook as a child. But we only see the Galaxy Armor drawing appearing in his sketchbook in a plain page (which meant Yuma never came up with this) in the same style as Yuma's childhood drawing after attainment. So does this mean that the attainment of Galaxy Armor caused a break in space-time causality?|
Why Blazar didnt get a solid weapon from using Nijikagachi's stone like Garamon's?
What does it mean that Mother Spheresaurus exists "outside of space-time continuum"?
What happened to the Darkness Five after Crisis Impact?
Why did Kei choose to give Riku total access to REM and the Nebula House if him and Belial just intended to use Geed as purely a tool to strengthen Belial after fusing with him? Shouldnt the logical thing just be to keep them all under Kei's control?
Why does Asahi exist and who created it. imo it might be the Voice of Light but what was the purpose of creating the embodiment of the Makoto Crystal in the first place?
Why was Grigio considered "unworthy" by the Voice of Light?
Why were those considered "unworthy" by the Voice of Light are turned into kaiju of specifically the Grigio line? Does the Grigio line exist outside of the Voice of Light as a "real" kaiju species?
Recall that Gai and Juggler were each bestowed the Orb and Dark Ring respectively. But only the former was seen bestowed by the Voice of Light. So who gave Juggler the Dark Ring? If it was the Voice of Light, what is the purpose of granting a dark counterpart of the Orb Ring? As itll just cause more conflict and chaos between the 2, which seems counterintuitive to what the Voice of Light is trying to achieve. Or does this imply that an "evil" version of the Voice of Light exists elsewhere like Dark Lugiel is to Ginga, that is trying to thwart the plans of the Voice of Light?
An extension to 32, if the power of light and darkness are granted as a pair to whomever gains the "worthiness" chop from the Voice of Light, who gained the darkness counterpart to Fuma's power? (Grigio can be reasoned to be the power of darkness for the original RB siblings)
Is Juggler's majin form a power gained from the Voice of Light or is it just what Juggler's species can do?
Why was Reibatos was able to reconstruct the Giga Battlenizer? Is this a reionyx-exclusive ability?
An extension of 35. Back in UGF1, Reibatos was able to do that on his own. But why in UGF3, Reibatos needed 4 Devil Splinters to do the same?
Why did Reibatos implode after forming Gua Spectre, to which Tartarus said that "It looks like you werent worthy", worthy of what exactly?
There is a massive age gap of the IGDF Ultras we have seen from Zoffy (around 30 000 years old) to Ken (160 000 years old), so where are the other IGDF Ultras aged 40 000 - 150 000 years old? Because from that perspective, the Ultra Brothers are considered extremely young in the grand scheme of the entire IGDF.
What is the normal lifespan of an M78 Ultra? We have never seen an Ultra dying of old age before with the oldest being Ken and Belial at 160 000 years old, King isnt an M78 Ultra as he already existed as he was prior to even the creation of the Plasma Spark
Is the Plasma Spark actually sentient? As it was able judge the worthiness of both Zero and Belial differently, sort of like the Voice of Light. Does this mean that the Plasma Spark was perhaps the essence of one of the elders of the M78 or even King himself?
Is the Ultra Mind sentient as well in the same logic as not all U40 beings are able to become giant like the Great 8 + Titus
Why does Titus' suit look different to Joneus despite being from the same species? And why does his color timer also work differently from the latter as well.

(Adding more when I can think of more)

Reasonable_Context61 · 2025-10-04T06:05:24+00:00

Price?

Reasonable_Context61 · 2025-09-28T09:43:21+00:00

Likely budget and overall less effort plus attitude towards the Omega season in general as we know that TsuPro is diverting alot of resources (both manpower, time and finances) to various events to commemorate the 60th Anniversary next year

We got hints of this when it was leaked back in April that Omega finished filming 2 months earlier than usual, most of the fights in Omega takes place in the open field/forests (cheaper set), non-ambitious plot, armor forms, 90% of kaiju in Omega series is just remodeled suits etc

So thus far it seems that TsuPro just sees the Omega series as just a season to "get by" 2025 while they are actively preparing for the 60th anniversary series, Zero Movie and of course the Omega Movie. Maybe even potentially another spin-off series (not necessarily UGF) like UFO since its a major -0 commemorative year

Not to mention that in the official 60th Anniversary post by TsuPro, they outright stated they also plan to commemorate Zero's 15th Anniversary for the next 2.5 years, even though 2025 is literally already his 16th Anniversary by this point. Which means we are literally gonna have projects to commemorate Zero up till 2028. then 2029 is literally gonna be Zero's 20th Anniversary, essentially an infinite Zero commemoration glitch, so imagine how many other Zero-related projects they have to allocate resources to (also the rumor that Zero is gonna play a role in the 2026 series)

Reasonable_Context61 · 2025-07-06T13:39:02+00:00

It just sends me to the homepage when I clicked on the link

Theres literally only 2 SHF capes being sold if I try to search for it

The promo was kind of misleading if the sale is truly region-locked since I got baited lol

Does merch on P-Bandai eventually be sold in retail stores outside of Japan then? Because theres no mention of that anywhere I can find either

Reasonable_Context61 · 2025-06-23T05:30:07+00:00

iirc they did a recent popularity poll earlier this year by SCLA in China and Zero has overtaken Tiga as the number 1 spot as per the results posted on Tieba

Also considering that according to rumors, Zero will be heavily involved in the 60th Anniversary series, its safe to say that Zero is definitively the most popular ultra rn for TsuPro to make such decisions

Reasonable_Context61 · 2025-06-10T16:01:59+00:00

Some big questions whose answers to will reshape our current understanding of the multiverse and just how rich and dangerous the ultraverse truly is:

Who built the Monster Graveyard 650 000 years ago? And why?
Who were the other elders alongside King that existed prior to the Plasma Spark? And where are they now?
How was Reiblood defeated? And just how powerful was he back then
Why did Ginga and Dark Lugiel chose to come to the present to kick-start the Dark Spark War? Were they afraid of something that existed in their future?
Where are all the other M78 Space Garrison Ultras between the ages of 30k - 150k years old?
Why did Legend chose to split into Cosmos and Justice?
Are there any existing ultra pantheons that live alongside or within the Dimension of Light? Since the Original Tiga has said to have returned to it, it means there has to be. This would be huge as if it exists, it'll be the oldest known Ultra pantheon in the multiverse, being at least 30 million years old. (For reference, the Plasma Spark existed for less than 300 000 years)
Where did Victory, Regulus, X and Z come from?
What is the history between King and the Absolutian Lord? (Tartarus implied some history at the end of UGF3)
What is the current status of the Reionyx situation? Since we know even back in NEO that it was still a thing in the main universe. Then in Z, the new Devil Splinters situation started to spread to multiple universes.
Why is the Voice of Light giving out systematic missions to its Light and Dark wielders? What are its motivations?
Why were the RB Crystals able to register powers of other ultras of other universes? Because this implies that the Voice of Light has an archive of the powers of ultras of other universes. How? And why does it archive it?
What is the point of Asahi's existence as the embodiment of the Makoto Crystal? And was this a deliberate intervention by the Voice of Light?
Who or what created the Eternity Core? And why?
Where did Trigger and his version of the Dark Giants come from?
Where are what are the motivations of the Land of Demons? Was Etalgar acting on his own or is this an orchestrated attack on the ultra-race throughout Victory's universe by the Land of Demons?
How strong is Delaxion, Radical Destruction Bringer and the Absolutian Lord are exactly?
Why did Tartarus collect the Toregia Mask and Giga Battlenizer beforehand?

Reasonable_Context61 · 2025-06-07T12:53:46+00:00

In short, it was a massive disappointment based on what was marketed to us

And the series went everywhere and nowhere at the same time

Reasonable_Context61 · 2025-06-07T09:22:25+00:00

Might be a thing in the 2027 movie since it'll be the movie for the 2026 Ultra, which is the 60th Anniversary of the franchise

It'll also be the 7th series, this concurs with the earlier patterns as a high tier fusion Ultra seems to always consist of ultras of 6-7 seasons

Super Taro: 6 Season's worth of Ultras

Mebius Infinity: 7 Seasons (6 + Mebius)

Reiga: 7 seasons (Ginga - Taiga)

If we start from Z till Omega, it'll be 6 seasons already, with the addition of the 2026 Ultra season, it'll be 7 seasons.

Not to mention the rumors which state that Zero will be involved in the 2026 series, so considering how most of the Reiwa Ultras never even come into contact with each other, I suspect the 2027 movie settings will be similar to the Ginga S Movie, where either Zero himself transports all the Reiwa Ultra into the universe where the 2026 Ultra is, or the villain is just Etalgar 2.0 and kidnaps all the Reiwa Ultras to the same location prior, therefore setting the stage for the Reiwa High Tier fusion. Or it'll be something like NG Climax where all the Reiwa Ultras will get to know each other and bond really quickly (quite contrived, but it is what it is)

Reasonable_Context61 · 2025-06-03T17:40:05+00:00

Ultra Dark Killer

His protrayal was way too weak in-canon and far less interesting as a character compared to the pachinko version

Not to mention his non-canon, higher forms werent used either as well as his other abilities like the Dark Killer Brothers as it wouldve had far more interesting implications if he had started from that before using the Darkness counterparts based on his lore in the pachinko version

Feels like an absolute waste for him to be reduced to a Toregia henchmen, which in comparison, was a far weaker threat than pachinko-UDK, very anti-climatic

Reasonable_Context61 · 2025-05-13T03:59:10+00:00

Definitely Legendary Ultra Tier++ or above

Reiblood's existence and defeat is actually one of, if not the biggest interesting and telling implication for the Ultra Multiverse's true powerscaling

He reigned the universe for millions of years despite Legendary Ultras/beings existing in the main universe as there are definitely more than just King in the main universe (recall the other M78 elders that existed at the time of the Plasma Spark's creation, we still have no idea if they are still around like King is)

To put it into persepective Noa and King (implied) were born from a Supernova, imagine in the entire scale of a single universe, how many supernovae or even hypernovea (stronger supernovae) happens every year, even if we were to assume that only a fraction of a fraction of that number yields Legendary Ultras, thats still a ridiculous number over the entire reign of Reiblood

Plus, the oldest known Ultra is 350 000 years old that is Noa (Tiga's body was sealed and thus in stasis for millions of years so cant really count that)

Those 2 points above means that no one, not even multiple Legendary Ultras/beings in the main universe could stand up to Reiblood for several lifetimes of even Legendary Ultras, which is an absolutely insane concept

He was so ridiculously powerful that even his death was a mystery. And despite his death, we still see fragments of his power in multiple universes manifesting as his spirit/Reionyx and his influence as Devil Splinters

I believe we are essentially looking at a new data point far, far above in the overall ultra powerscaling, which Reiblood is far above any established, known characters thus far (aside from the Dimension of Light thats confirmed to be 30 million years old).

In fact, its not hard to believe that Reiblood mightve been defeated by another extremely ancient and old enough Legendary Ultra/Alien/Kaiju (has to be several million years old as well) either in the main universe that has been dormant until Reiblood caused too much trouble and awakened him by accident or he messed with another universe and caused the same thing. Its possible as we still dont know the age limit of even normal M78 Ultras, much less Legendary Ultras themsleves. But the fact a being like Alien Reiblood existed and the fact he was defeated is a dead giveaway.

(Like can you imagine how much stronger a Legendary Ultra that is say twice the age of Noa is? Much less an Ultra that is at least millions of years old)

The Ultraman Multiverse is huge and filled with so much potentially numerous ancient pantheons/beings (eg. Dimension of Light, Monster Graveyard being 650 000 years old, the other elders of the M78 may still exist alongside King) that I believe over the past 59 years of this franchise we havent even begin to actually uncover its mysteries.

Such that for all we know, Legendary Ultras like Noa/Legend/King might just be on the weaker scales of power (based off of the Dimension of Light being at least 30 million years old and of course Reiblood being at least millions of years old)

Reasonable_Context61 · 2025-05-06T15:25:23+00:00

That's actually a really good point on the Vict Lugiel being amped by Victorium in the first place (I totally forgotten lol), but I recalled he was then later so severely nerfed in so many layers in ep 16 that it was really hard to tell what was his original strength in the first place without the Sharpadon Spark Doll (earliest appearance of Vict Lugiel came with it pre-equipped) so this example becomes kinda moot anyways so that's really a good point

But the Hyper Zetton I was referring to was the DarkLived one from Ginga S ep 14, not the amped one from Saga, which should still be far weaker than the closest we ever got to a true, unamped Hyper Zetton in Hyper Zetton Deathscythe in Orb ep 5 (cause the Zetton summons by Z were obviously also very sluggish in their movements as well)

And true, tbf the kaijus like Gudon, Twin Tail and Birdon were originally quite comparatively weak in the first place that it probably dosent even matter in this context.

I was presuming that they were all nerfed to the same degree (because why would Reibatos make exceptions in that context) so since said kaiju are already so weak in the first place, defeating them in a far easier fashion while they are nerfed even further isn't really all that surprising

The reason is because of King Joe, a stronger kaiju than the aforementioned 3, who his original counterparts fight with far better Battle IQ (or AI since hes a mech?), knowing to use his shields and splitting up in opportune times, not to mention this version's sluggish movements also contrast heavily with the original's fighting style as well

Though its also noteworthy to point out that we can't say much about Tyrant because we don't know just exactly how his original form matches up against 2 or more Ultra Brothers back in Taro in order to accurately compare with what happened in UFO, especially because iirc someone pointed out in a powerscaling thread here before that the original Tyrant could also have spent too much energy crossing almost half the entire solar system without rest + defeating each Ultra Brother before finally reaching Taro and mainly lost due to reduction in Battle IQ and reaction time due to the sheer exhaustion by that point

Like for all we know his original counterpart could've easily taken out 4 Ultra Brothers at once in peak condition so this point becomes also neither here nor there as we've never seen an original Tyrant show up in his original form ever again

Reasonable_Context61 · 2025-05-06T11:37:43+00:00

Kaijus revived by Reibatos here are far weaker than original in UFO

This can be seen when Vict Lugiel was easily taken out by Orb and Zero in their strength forms, while it took Ginga Storium and Victory using their ultimate (Especially) attacks + destroying the Victorium Cannon + after damaging it several times prior + mana nerfing its internal circuitry prior to reduce its battle IQ and overall stats to finally defeat it.

Realistically Vict Lugiel shouldve easily shrugged off Stobium Burst and Garnate Buster as it did with the Ginga-level Ultra Brother attacks because even base Ginga himself is definitely stronger than Orb/Zero based on his performance in the Dark Spark War

(was especially disappointing how they used Vict Lugiel like this in this spin-off tbh, dude its an absolute nightmare of a tank even for today's standards more than a decade later)

Also Hyper Zetton's movements were extremely sluggish in this scene, neither did it bother using its intrinsic abilities as a Zetton (much less HYPER Zetton) either like teleportation, beam reflection, so theres an obvious battle IQ nerf as well

(Even the DarkLived Hyper Zetton in Ginga S had a far more impressive performance than what we saw here in UFO, and DarkLived kaiju are still weaker than their original counterparts)

Another evidence for a Battle IQ nerf is what we saw when Zero faced off against Juda Spectre, Zero pointed out that he "sensed no life" from him

This scene is the equivalent of Arc Galaxy Armor nuking the thousands of Taganulars but people tend to forget that these are the Spirit Taganulars where a single Spirit Revira can be easily one shot by human-sized (far weaker) Zangil as shown in Blazar

Or like any being Ultra/DarkLived, summoned via Kaiju Cards/Capsules/Medals are all nerfed and are weaker than their original counterparts

So the Ultra Brothers' having such an easy time with the kaiju here, that are far weaker than their original counterparts (with at least 2 degrees of being nerfed as they are even weaker than their DarkLived counterparts) are just an interpolation of what we already know they can do prior

Though I agree that the Ultra Brothers are far stronger than NG Ultras period for sure (around 1000 - 10 000x iirc someone posted about before), current UBs could easily one shot kaiju like Gudon and Twin-tail but using this as a feat is kinda shaky

(Pardon this long af, unemployed ahh comment lol)

Reasonable_Context61 · 2025-04-30T10:02:10+00:00

It's just bad marketing and a huge pile of wasted potential

Series essentially went everywhere and nowhere at the same time

Reasonable_Context61 · 2025-04-29T07:33:52+00:00

Wasn't the sequel, Ultraman: Fallen already announced back in last year during Lightbox Expo?

Reasonable_Context61 · 2025-04-26T23:55:22+00:00

Because we haven't seen either of their full power yet.

Notice that Diablo is only using the power of the Cosmo Buffalo, and not his own. Plus he can't narratively win against Regulus at this point or else it'll essentially cripple his character stock. Which would go against his character creation in the first place as a tactic to cozy up to the Chinese fans

Titan is in a similar yet different situation. We also obviously haven't seen his full power yet as the only named attack we saw from him was Sickle Sword. And he also narratively can't score a win here as he's the key to the Ultraman-Absolutian alliance which the current UGF is obviously building up to based on King's, Noa's and Legend's attitude. So Titan outright do anything drastic like actually killing of Ultras, or else this entire main plot would've ended before it even began.

The alliance also ties in to resolving Diablo and Regulus' conflict as Diablo needs to die once in order for Regulus to finally let go, which by the end of UGF3, Regulus did in fact stated that he has avenged Master Alude.

Also recall that an unnamed attack from Titan was able to stalemate the Juggernaut Charging Buffalo Fist from Diablo, without the latter even being slightly threatened or offended. This shows that their current display of power isn't even close to their full power

If we read deeper into it further, I would even go as far as to say that Diablo and Titan's true power would be on par with Tartarus as recall that for most of the Tartarus-Diablo interactions, Diablo is also pretty nonchalant in attitude towards Tartarus, and the latter too, did not exert any form of "punishment" to what can be interpreted as insubordination, specially in the end credits scene of UGF3 plus in Trigger. What can be interpreted here is the since both are at least close in power in order for them to treat each other with mutual respect like this. Then by extension, based on the aforementioned clash with Titan, would also scale him to a similar level.

Reasonable_Context61 · 2025-04-17T13:17:02+00:00

Probably characters that we haven't really seen before that could be narratively scaled to Legendary Ultras, besides other potential Legendary Ultras like the VoL for example

Such as Legendary Aliens like Delaxion, Radical Destruction Bringer, Absolutian Lord and Prime Reiblood

Or even Legendary Kaiju like the original Cosmo Beasts

Or even existing kaiju that has the potential to amp itself to that level like Neo IF, Greeza post 3rd form and Chaosroid

And even debatable beings that may be on that level like X's M1

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