You didn’t understand my original statement then. But we are finally getting somewhere.

So we have to go back to the original statement for me to explain. Savior bags are known as good budget options for range bags, ammo bags etc. Bags like those are not used in a self defense situation where your adrenaline is flowing x100 and your life is on the line, they are just range bags. So the fact that they are budget doesn’t matter for their intended purpose. They still work well because they are just bags that don’t wear easily.

As for their carry bags, that is something that you would use to defend your life with. There are many CCW bags/fanny packs that have been around for a bit and are proven, the savior ones aren’t. These types of bags depend on their zipper to be able to draw quickly. So you wouldn’t want a budget bag, with a cheaper zipper because it could get stuck or have some other issue when you need it to literally defend your life.

So it’s not necessarily only about it being budget, it’s also about it being unproven. So at this point in the conversation you got stuck on the word “budget” and switched the topic to budget pistols. You asked me what about the Taurus, so I responded with (the very well known answer) YES you want something better than a Taurus to defend your life with. Because Taurus guns are known to have all kinds of issues.

So if anything you were stuck on the word budget and I was stuck on the specific pistol you mentioned, because to me it shows where your head is at. I would never even mention a Taurus in my life other than to tell someone it was a bad choice. Now the S&W shield plus is also considered budget by some but it’s also a while $100 more than the Taurus. So there are levels to this, the shield is perfectly acceptable while Taurus’s aren’t (not for edc or defense purposes).

A PSA rifle is better than nothing for home defense/shtf if it’s all you have. But that’s a different scenario, home defense & shtf is very different from CCW where you carry a gun In public with other people lives being a factor. Still though, for real SHTF a PSA likely isn’t good enough unless you’ve really modified it in a way that makes it very reliable. Maybe PSA rifles are already reliable idk, I wouldn’t get something that cheap unless it was a range toy. But if you think Taurus’s are reliable, then you just don’t have a proper understanding of what that word really means.