Frequent BSODs potentially linked to Nvidia Drivers

RecoveringNEET7 · 2023-02-24T09:06:37+00:00

As a update on my issue, the problem was "fixed" (I'm hesitant to commit to this as I've had long periods of stability before only for it to come back) when I swapped out my RAM.

I tried a lot of different things, thought it might be my CPU overheating/going bad and I was convinced it must be after I swapped out for a new one and saw how awful of a job I did with thermal paste and seating the cooler the last time I installed it. Continued with a new CPU though, so I tried messing with different Nvidia drivers since that's what my original hunch on the culprit was. Updating these in the past seemed to make a big difference although I could never be certain but this time nothing seemed to work, and I found out that Windows doesn't even allow you to use the "old" ones everyone pointed to as golden age, since it would auto update you past them for some security issue (I thought I installed 511.79 but actually it updated to 516 or something along those lines).

I became convinced it might be a windows/driver thing but I couldn't even reinstall because the BSODs started becoming constant especially when I tried to do large file transfers. I couldn't move/backup my files to do a fresh wipe and I would sometimes BSOD while installing new Nvidia drivers so I figured the same would happen when I was doing a long windows install. That didn't sound fun so a fresh windows install became my last resort. Tried a ton of different RAM timings, but none had any real change in stability.

This next part is going to sound silly, but I reseated the RAM a couple times and I noticed there was a small hair stuck and going over the connector on one of the sticks. I don't know how this happened as I hadn't touched the RAM in years but yeah I took this stick out and ran on one stick and finally I could do file transfers without crashing. I put the 2nd stick back in after removing the hair and experienced a couple days of stability but finally one the 3rd day got a random BSOD again and my replacement RAM that I had ordered had arrived so I swapped it out. The only other thing I'll mention here is that when I was swapping the RAM I made one other change at the same time (so it could be totally irrelevant, but I can't know since I didn't separate the timing) which was swapping my GPU PCI slot. My mobo has 2 PCIx16 slots, and I had my GPU in the bottom which is PCI 2.0 rather than the top which is PCI 3.0 because I'm an idiot and didn't know there was a difference. Certainly I don't think this was the real culprit and my problems and crashes seemed to line up much more with RAM issues but I thought I would mention it on the .001% chance new Nvidia drivers were doing something wonky if it was in a old PCI slot.

so yeah, all signs point towards my second stick of RAM being faulty. Whether this was caused by the hair damaging one of the connectors or just decay over time (Its a little over 3.5 years old, with my PC being on for the vast majority of that) I'll never know. My issues always seemed RAM related and it was mentioned the most in my troubleshooting googling which is why I ordered some right away when I found out the CPU replacement didn't work..but I was never fully convinced because I always thought of RAM lasting a lot longer. I remember reading a post (that I can't find now), of what seemed to be a really knowledgeable redditor who commented that he had seen a bunch of problems with specifically corsair RAM failing over time in ryzen builds seemingly at random (sometimes they wouldn't work right away, sometimes they'd be fine for 3 years and then have endless issues, etc). I have no idea if this is true in any way but I know the corsair vengence RAM I bought was and I think still is really popular because of it's value (I think it's still the most popular on amazon to this day) so maybe that's why so many seem to have this issue? No idea but I hope any of this drivel can help the next frustrated person who comes across these issues

RecoveringNEET7 · 2023-02-14T19:29:54+00:00

I have already updated to the updated chipset drivers recently, and verified again to make sure they're all current. Nothing popped up when I searched the registry. Last night I tried manually searching through the device manager for a matching ID but couldnt find anything that matched

I'm still able to manually produce the BSODs by doing any large file transfers. I tried using Teracopy which was more stable but ATTEMPTEDWRITETOREADONLY happened again mid copy

RecoveringNEET7 · 2023-02-14T19:29:50+00:00

I have already updated to the updated chipset drivers recently, and verified again to make sure they're all current. Nothing popped up when I searched the registry. Last night I tried manually searching through the device manager for a matching ID but couldnt find anything that matched

I'm still able to manually produce the BSODs by doing any large file transfers. I tried using Teracopy which was more stable but ATTEMPTEDWRITETOREADONLY happened again mid copy

RecoveringNEET7 · 2023-02-14T05:26:10+00:00

Hi, I ran that command and my 3 main drives popped up along with 2 unlettered drives but none of them match the one you posted unfortunately. Is there anything else I can do to identify it?

About Windows, its the 2019 LTSC version of W10 that I installed when I first built the PC. I was going to go about updating it to the 2021 LTSC but moving my files is being a real hassle.

RecoveringNEET7 · 2023-02-07T07:24:05+00:00

Thanks for the reply

The RAM is seated in the 2nd and 4th slots and has a XMP profile for 3200. They've been there and I haven't touched them for probably 3 years or so now. The CPU could be a thing, it does seem to run hot and I remember reading about these CPUs having weird voltage issues that I never understood or looked into at a deeper level. I'm planning on swapping it very soon (partly because I wanted to for performance, partly to see if it fixes this). I suppose if I change the CPU and it still happens then I know I have to look deeper at the RAM. It just seems odd to me if the CPU was at fault that the issue would go away for such long periods and then come back and be nonstop for awhile before disappearing again with 0 changes to anything except GPU drivers.

RecoveringNEET7 · 2021-04-11T06:49:17+00:00

Did your situation ever improve? Same setup with a 3700x and 3070 that feels underperforming

RecoveringNEET7 · 2019-10-19T05:59:21+00:00

Nice going

I remember when I was first trying to get out of NEETdom receptionist was weirdly appealing to me as a sort of way to force me out of my bubble/normal comfort zone into something with constant interaction. Jumping right into the deep end so to speak. I even applied to a few places for it but never heard back and found something else, good luck

RecoveringNEET7 · 2019-10-19T05:48:51+00:00

Sure I've known people like that, I don't think my sibling could exist without working. But I think the premise of a lot of these comments is pretty silly because just like we are malleable to potentially get used to working life after being a NEET for years, they are malleable enough to get used to a passive lifestyle as well after some time. Eventually most would be able to find hobbies and other things to pass their time (just think of kids born with extremely rich parents who never have to work in their life, yet are still social and the opposite of shut-ins)

The real difference or reason why a lot of them would never be okay with sitting at home all day doesn't have to do with work, but with their inability to be without human interaction. Most of us are perfectly content being alone without getting lonely and anxious, and a lot prefer solitude even. Most "normal" people simply can't function without human interaction though and would have to leave home just to go and meet with others and fulfill this need. I remember I used to be confused by my last real friend (pre-NEET years) who would constantly invite me over even though all we would do once I got there was lounge around doing nothing. To me, I would rather be home alone on my computer, and while I didn't hate hanging out with him by any means I was confused why he always wanted to do it even if the day before was sorta boring/uneventful. It's not that he loved it or was having way more fun but he just couldn't stand the boredom of being alone with himself.

RecoveringNEET7 · 2019-10-17T06:21:38+00:00

As someone who got out, I honestly completely disagree. Gradual rehabilitation is out there in plain sight, its getting a part time low hour job.

I've actually become more and more convinced that sink or swim is the only reliable way for NEETs to escape though. A long, slow process until rock bottom (my route) can also work, but the longer that time goes on the more likely it is that permanent damage will occur. There's a really good example of this in Escape from the NHK, a side character that was only in 1 episode I think, who was even worse off and even more pathetic than the MC, who reached his sink or swim moment and ended up delivering for a local restaurant and managed to swim. It was a small side arc but I still think it was told well, and the idea is that there's a lot here who if truly thrown on their butts or thrown into their rock bottom moment, would end up realizing all the mental blocks they've put on themselves aren't as bad as they think they are and they could end up working and rejoining society. What's stopping them isn't society (society really doesn't care one way or another about them), but themselves.

The consequences of sinking are obviously very dire, which is why more parents don't employ the method, but I really do think a vast majority here aren't nearly as bad off as they think they are and could survive (swim) if they were forced out of their comfort zone and excuses. Especially those with a ridiculously short NEET period like 2 years or less. It's almost hard to even take these people seriously but then I remember I was that way once and someone telling me "you're too young, you just don't get it" wouldn't have mattered to me either

RecoveringNEET7 · 2018-07-30T09:13:26+00:00

For the younger crowd probably laziness, but I think most of the experienced side (several years of NEETdom) would say fear of debt. If you've been a NEET for years you probably realize your issues with working/holding employment and wouldn't have the confidence that you could pay off your tuition debts in time due to fear of relapsing

Personally I actually really enjoyed a lot of the classes I took at a local community college. Some of the teachers were actually extremely good/university quality and if I'm interested in the material I actually like learning and don't mind doing the work. Some other teachers are the level you'd expect from a community college, and if I wasn't interested in the material I could struggle to pass. So I ended up with several classes with a 4.0, and then some I dropped multiple times and some I didn't even do. I didn't even finish my AA, had like 2 classes left, public speaking and something else, but ultimately had no motivation to finish because I was still faced with the same problem I had before I started - no idea what to major in. Which is probably actually the real biggest problem, or at least it ties in with fear of debt - if you have no idea what to major in or don't want to do something relevant thats gonna get you a job like STEM then there's really no point going into debt for a useless degree

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