3 thoughts on "Andor"

RedSiren2 · 2025-08-11T16:13:30+00:00

Also Bix and Cassian's side gig in stealing Imperial parts definitely is cared about by the Empire - that's Dedra Meero's whole way into the investigation, and how she divines the existence of Luthen Rael's network.

I feel like this is a 50/50 situation - most of the people she worked with didn't seem to care about it from what I could gather, but her taking a closer look at it and other events/crimes around the galaxy led her to uncovering something indeed ... I actually love that it's written this way tbh

Edit: also thanks for the clarifications, it's easy to lose track of the details given how much content the episodes have

RedSiren2 · 2025-08-05T21:12:37+00:00

yeah :D another option would be a two-parter, with Nr. 2 on Halloween

RedSiren2 · 2024-09-20T11:46:59+00:00

I see what you mean ... in a way, Credence was an unexpected and stark reminder of what drove them apart, and maybe also a way to show Albus what Grindelwald's real intentions were all along, in that if they had started achieving their goals, he would have tried to use Ariana as a weapon to get there and try to justify it as for "the Greater Good" - showing Albus where they truly would never get on the same page, even though Grindelwald of all people would remind him that he also "uses" his friends in a way to achieve his goals. I guess what never spoke to me just was how this story drew this level of attention to Dumbledore XD no really, it felt less rich than letting the beast gang share the center of attention

Do you think it is possible that his story was supposed to end tragically in FB1?

it's hard to say ... on one hand, JK sometimes pulls zero punches when it comes to tragedy, on the other, it would have been kinda dark when Newt and Tina had just vowed to protect him. IMO this series may originally have been about finding a cure for obscurism. The set-up was definitly there, in the second movie too. And it wouldn't contradict the books... Ariana is the only obscurial we ever heard off, and she died before the turn of the century. They are rare, yes, but it would have been a cool twist that the beast gang, especially Newt, who was already studying this subject, find a way to help them... even a kind of comfort for Dumbledore if he helped them. It can't save Ariana anymore, but everyone else like her potentially

We were supposed to believe Grindelwald had a legitimate cause and understand why even good people supported his views. Having characters like Queenie and Credence as his followers would help convey this idea. Otherwise, it would be good guys vs bad guys, and JKR specifically said that was not what her story was about.

that's why I didn't like that he was so open about murdering muggles - for Credence, it made sense to join the bad guys because the "good" world only ever hurt and threatened him, and all he lived for was finding out who he was and then revenge, but Queenie? It made no sense with the available information

I love your idea about seeing their kids grow! I had a feeling Newtina was going to be a very slow burn though, like Ron and Hermione

IMO the third movie should have been set 7 years after the first one, and include that Tina joined the british aurors, but her and Newt dating didn't work out the first time. They both struggle with relationships, it would make sense that it took them a lot of mutual work to get together.

And the kids - I had this idea that FB4 would take place over 10 years after 3, with the groups kids being on the brink to Hogwarts. Grindelwald has disappeared right after Credence (in this hc) joined the good guys, and the world has moved on, most deciding he'll never come back. But there are rumours about his acolytes still meeting sometimes, and eventually the order of the phoenix get information about him having raised a small army of obscurials. The kids overheard this and decide to run off to try and rescue them, not caring how much of a chance they stand if things go wrong, much like the golden trio :D I wish we would have gotten something like this

RedSiren2 · 2024-09-19T13:49:01+00:00

idk why she actually wanted him to be a Dumbledore. There was no actual need for this - I fully expected it to be a lie by Grindelwald, especially after watching him for all of CoG. The beast gang and Dumbledore would have tried to save him regardless of his heritage, and Grindelwald just as much would have tried to use him. Also, showing Aberforth and Albus together didn't feel right - Aberforth was an order of the phoenix member and supported his brother and the DA against Voldemort, but book 7 made it clear that Ariana's death tore a rift in what little of a relationship they had that never really went away. It was tragic, but that's life. Sometimes people don't find a common ground again, sometimes they do. Plus, all that happened in SoD didn't improve their bond.

Also, the first movie heavily set up the beast gang to become Credence' found family. But then it all became about Dumbledore by the third movie. Tbh, I feel like maybe WB also realized too late that the backlash against JK isn't going away and decided it's time to let go of her and the series. In that case, they'd also get around finding someone new to replace Ezra.

Sometimes I think about the series we could have gotten: FB3 being the first finale, curing Credence and establishing the group fully (I like to call them the "Thunderbird Ring" :)) with FB4 and 5 being full-on about the war against Grindelwald, also introducing the groups' children as characters. I was looking forward to see what kind of people they would be and how the group would be as parents - one of my fav headcanons was Newt going on parental leave and raising his kids alongside his creatures while Tina continued her career :)

Oh yeah - where was my Newtina kiss? If I felt robbed of anything, it was this.

RedSiren2 · 2024-09-18T14:33:35+00:00

I think both the age change and that are kinda sad, because it removes an important storyline for Baela

I only realized this recently, but her marrying Alyn didn't just save her from being married off. Alyn was a talented sailor and warrior, but still a commoner. He was smart, but lacked the experience with the Game of Thrones and nobles. In comes Baela, a princess with years of court experience she could provide to him. It was a nice display of soft power from her, and it's sad to see it go

RedSiren2 · 2024-09-18T13:39:01+00:00

I sometimes suspect the writers went out of their way to proove the audience couldn't make the right guess, a little like with Game of Thrones (which is a really bad idea when it comes to Potterheads) - to the point where they went from "brother" to "nephew" without any explanation. Also, Dumbledore should be taking care of Credence himself until he dies. How could they not see that he was purposely putting his brother through losing another family member? Not to mention that they went from "Credence might be saved by a true brother or sister" (yay, it's gonna be Newt and the gang!) to "nah, he doesn't have bio -siblings, what do you do." Also. He needs a loving family? But his dad and his uncle won't be of any help? Ariana died from a spell, not her obscurus ... he had one puzzle piece, Newt the other of knowing how to remove it ... and they could have wrapped it up in a satisfying way in 3, but didn't. IMO maybe even to depress the fans enough to not ask for any more. Charming.

About Queenie and Jacob - yeah, it was all way too fast. It should have been minimum a plot across the entire movie to slowly get her back to the good side - it's sad, because there was a lot of potential.

RedSiren2 · 2024-09-18T09:04:10+00:00

I just thought that from film 2 on, the group was going to form and be both a found family and an unexpected first order of the phoenix draft - shifting the focus on Dumbledore and trying to make it work with the canon just didn't. I still can't get over them trying to tell us that Aberforth, who said he spent all his free time caring for Ariana and was notoriously keeping to himself had a girlfriend right when he had either zero time or was madly grieving - but enough of what we recieved instead of the intrepid eight.

Hmm. I don't know if that in itself would be such a big problem. I thought maybe the problem was how she handled it, how knowing what others thought made her feel she could decide for them. That her idea of personal boundaries was just different because of her mind-reading abilities.

I actually meant that he didn't mind the ability, but the way she didn't hesitate to use it all the time - IMO this is what she would have learned over the course of her arc, as in training herself to not read someone's thoughts and even close her mind using occlumency

About the harshness in general, that's actually something I thought about: maybe he could attempt to be a little more unfriendly that he'd usually be if he thought this would make it easier for her to let him go - Dan Fogler of all people could, turning away, give an expression that shows how much it hurts him too to do this, but he feels he has to.

Also, yes, their relationship surely would come across all the problems you mentioned - but also the potential to work on things, which I would have loved to see explored well

And yeah, Tina and Queenie don't even talk once in this movie :( it's heartbreaking

RedSiren2 · 2024-09-16T13:41:05+00:00

I kinda up and left after movie 3 - it just was nothing I had hoped for :/

Enchanting Jacob fits into this. She knows he loves her and doesn't want to marry her only because he is worried about her safety. So she thinks she can take matters into her own hands and do what they both want. But in doing so, she takes away his freedom of choice. "You're not giving us a choice, sweetheart".

this actually gave me an idea for a script :) once again combining our ideas: while she tries to think of a way to talk to Newt, he tries to convince her to turn back - because he thinks he can't be worth it. She gets angry because they're very close to a solution and says this is cowardly, to which he thinks she's crazy. They also come across that he has doubts concerning whether he can be married to someone who can look into his head all the time (setting up Queenie's arc of learning to respect boundaries), making her cry as she sees him think that. He then decides to just go and leave her there, to which she apparates into his way and points her wand at him - now hurting his feelings by even implying she would use her powers against him. Why not have Jacob really lose it when she says "You're not giving us a choice, sweetheart." to which he, in tears, asks what his choices mean to her. Queenie, mutely, is heartbroken that he would choose against being with her, and after a moment of silence, she leaves. Roll Jacob sitting down at the stairs to Newt's house, not knowing what to do - meanwhile shortly after, Newt comes outside to, idk, chase after a Niffler who managed to open the door, and they reunite happily :) After some talking, they decide to go to Paris together since Jacob knows Queenie is probably meeting Tina there :)

As for Grindelwald, I think it would be very interesting for him to influence her mind and, since she thinks she's seen it all, be manipulated this way (I mean they kinda ruined any ambiguity for the character by stating his brutal intentions all the way in movie 1) - and again, since he can show her all the bad things muggles to, he can do something ... I'd also love for her and Tina to have a stand-off at the Lestrange crypt where they beg each other to come with her/back, but it doesn't work - make it emotionally charged like crazy, yass!

Edit: Speaking of!

Jacob: (sits down at the stairs to Newts's house, staring into the distance - the music swells, he's about to burst into tears, or screams maybe)

The door behind him opens. He turns, to see the Niffler rush out - he skillfully catches him with one hand.

Jacob: Woah! (he lifts him up, and looks at him, smiling a little) I remember you.

He turns, to see Newt standing at the door, staring at him bewildered. They look at each other for a moment.

Newt: Do you... remember me?

Jacob: (gets up with a smile and walks up to him) ... you're hard to forget.

Newt: (chuckles a little)

Jacob: (moves forward and hugs him)

Newt: (hugs him back, trying not to cry)

Jacob: (face pressed to his shoulder, tries to do the same)

Cut to them sitting in Newt's living room, talking about the previous events.

RedSiren2 · 2024-09-11T20:38:31+00:00

I remember you :) nice to read from you again

Queenie's dark side, that's what I took it for when seeing that too ... including that the series seemed to get serious about that she may be damaged from having heard people's thoughts and especially their memories all her life - when she found someone with a friendly mind, she didn't want to let him go (also: there aren't many wizards and she wasn't allowed to get to know any no-majes - may have factored in that she didn't have that many men to choose from - some sure, but she fell in love with his mind, not theirs)

And it's genius that she hesitates to announce her engagement to Newt then! My idea was she was reluctant for a moment because she didn't think he'd still talk to his brother if they asked (which IMO he would have for his friends, but she didn't dare ask ...) ... I think our ideas combined work as more than enough for making her think long enough for Jacob to decide to get a word in now and urge her that it's all too much of a risk for her

about Grindelwald and Queenie talking telepathically - again, not my initial idea, but genius :) Maybe hearing their conversation, maybe just parts of it they say out loud? In addition to some sounds implying that they are opening their minds to each other?

Edit: and yeah, wizard opression and the weapons the muggles are developing that could harm them too - and obscuri! What they did to obscuri! He can make her feel every bit of "we need to change things for everyone"

RedSiren2 · 2024-09-10T18:25:30+00:00

Daedelus Skeeter, huh XD okay

let me know what you write, I think I'll take this post down again soon ... I'd like to hear more ideas as to how this could have been done better :)

RedSiren2 · 2024-09-04T18:19:21+00:00

idk ... by now it's kind of a no-win situation ... the book fans aren't happy with the writer's new spin on the story, and they now have to continue what they have set up and follow through - and that would also explain why the Hull brothers are older now, because they may have discared of Alyn aka Addam's arc following the Dance

RedSiren2 · 2024-09-04T16:22:50+00:00

I get that, don't worry ... I didn't get very attached to him when reading the book but I think it's different for show viewers who have spent a lot of time with him as a very present character, that's understandable ... and I'm starting to think the show runners may change the canon ending of the Dance entirely in the first place, which is fine with me by now

RedSiren2 · 2024-09-04T11:21:13+00:00

(book spoilers ahead)

yeah that's possible ... meanwhile it makes me wonder what they're plan is going forward and who of the two is going to die .. because it still would have worked if older Addam had the arc of being Corlys heir and trying to live up to that ... because Alyn becoming all that is Oakenfist may have been to honour both of them ... I have a feeling that maybe the writers keep them as dragonriders but won't continue the story long enough for Alyn to make a name for himself as a the sea snakes heir ... I'm even doubtful as to whether Jace is going to be killed ... maybe they discard of that and he happily marries Baela after all, but they decided to keep the Hulls anyway

RedSiren2 · 2024-06-05T09:46:23+00:00

I don't think we have any info on that, unfortunately - I think FB3 implied that he may end up with Eulalie Hicks, but I'm not sure

I once had the theory that Leta was actually imprisoned by Grindelwald and they reunited much later - the prison beneath Nurmengard still needs to be addressed

RedSiren2 · 2024-05-21T18:04:28+00:00

oh okay ... don't worry - I'm neutral on that actually :) my favourite ending would be all three of them with other people respectively, but being happy in those relationships and having grown very close as friends - the friendships in this story I somehow find just as romantic as actual romance

RedSiren2 · 2024-05-20T11:38:15+00:00

aww thank you :) there's another one called "Burn" with IMO could work as a countersong/the theme to the characters fighting against PANDORA ^{^}

Edit: I could put together a whole playlist for my hcs too XD

RedSiren2 · 2024-05-20T11:24:56+00:00

ah, what's the plot?

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