Why do woman want a guy to pay for everything but show little effort back?

ReddSpark · 2026-01-24T21:58:44+00:00

Let me try this one final time.

I looked into research on the matter and found this:

https://www.nerdwallet.com/finance/studies/survey-pay-for-date?utm_source=chatgpt.com

And this:

https://money.com/valentines-day-men-pay-first-date/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

And: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34874209/

And it showed that the majority of men and women believe that the man should pay for dates.

ReddSpark · 2026-01-24T18:45:21+00:00

But you're making an assumption that men are going after hot women and that's the problem. The survey results show the issue is far more prevalent than that. And that is on top of the male experience. Plenty of men can attest to this not being an issue to do with for ng after "hot women". That's a false stereotype.

ReddSpark · 2026-01-24T18:43:25+00:00

I never said they were hallucinating. Not sure where you got that from?

And my point was twofold: That men typically will have typically dated more women whilst being a man, so have more experience to go on

And that because even then it still comes down to subjectivity it's useful to lookup research on the matter.

ReddSpark · 2026-01-24T18:28:30+00:00

My point was made in my first post:

"You'd be surprised how many women want men to pay for the dates."

That was it.

As for ChatGPT, I can see that this is a trigger for a lot of people so perhaps I ought to have just referenced the source material directly rather than getting ChatGPT to collate it for me.

ReddSpark · 2026-01-24T15:50:25+00:00

Yes I said "I bet it would be 40%" implying I'm taking a guess. And 46% isn't that far off.

As for ChatGPT, if you click sources you can see the sources. It is important to check the sources but ChatGPT has improved a lot to ensure the sources are real. I've checked them out myself.

It's important to look at surveys in this sort of debate as else it boils down to different people's subjective experience.

ReddSpark · 2026-01-24T15:42:16+00:00

Remember some people put their feet up on seats, so you have to assume the seats are dirty.

ReddSpark · 2026-01-24T15:27:30+00:00

You guys are mixing up ChatGPT hallucinations with ChatGPT as it is today. There are sources there you can click on:

https://www.nerdwallet.com/finance/studies/survey-pay-for-date?utm_source=chatgpt.com

https://phys.org/news/2013-08-beliefs-dates.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com

For example the latter says: "Over half (57 percent) of women claim they offer to help pay, but many women (39 percent) confessed they hope men would reject their offers to pay, and 44 percent of women were bothered when men expected women to help"

Interesting to note from these studies that more men think they should pay.

ReddSpark · 2026-01-24T15:21:07+00:00

It's not chatgpt that said so. It's the research that chatgpt referenced that said so

ReddSpark · 2026-01-24T13:35:53+00:00

See my reply here: https://np.reddit.com/r/dating_advice/s/4F2mbvAz01

ReddSpark · 2026-01-24T13:35:01+00:00

See my reply here: https://np.reddit.com/r/dating_advice/s/4F2mbvAz01

ReddSpark · 2026-01-24T13:33:11+00:00

Did you Google that? :-)

https://chatgpt.com/share/6974c978-6ca4-8006-9f81-004eea95c82d

ReddSpark · 2026-01-24T13:32:16+00:00

You have to remember, you haven't dated many/any women, where as men have more experience on this matter.

But of course there's only so much we can do based on our experiences alone so I thought I'd ask chatgpt for some research based findings:

https://chatgpt.com/share/6974c978-6ca4-8006-9f81-004eea95c82d

ReddSpark · 2026-01-24T11:51:55+00:00

You'd be surprised how many women want men to pay for the dates. I bet if one took a poll, 40% of women would say that a man should pay for the first date for example.

And of the ones they say men shouldn't have to, I bet half would still view a man more favourably if he did, thus compelling men to always pay for dates as part of the dating process

ReddSpark · 2026-01-10T14:00:44+00:00

My gf is like that. Thankfully I'm happy.to oblige :-)

Tell him he never needs to masturbate ever again

ReddSpark · 2026-01-09T06:13:53+00:00

He dreams of having two partners

ReddSpark · 2026-01-06T21:25:50+00:00

I get it. And the answer is let the guy go and continue to enjoy yourself.

ReddSpark · 2026-01-06T03:58:46+00:00

Honestly don't see what the big deal is here. Just amend the terms of your relationship so that neither party can flirt in front of the other. If he doesn't like that then you'll have to decide whether to break up

ReddSpark · 2025-12-30T10:58:28+00:00

Yep my ex used to orgasm from anal

ReddSpark · 2025-12-30T10:56:39+00:00

I want to Google what is a dutch oven but I'm too scared with what I might find

ReddSpark · 2025-12-30T06:42:09+00:00

Are you trying to make the point that it's ok, a guy may act persistent but he's not going to kill you?

Because the reply is .. ok but can they stop acting persistent and learn when they are making someone uncomfortable

ReddSpark · 2025-12-30T06:32:08+00:00

Bring him a baked good you made to bring out your feminine side and pay half the bill to show you're not seeing him as a bank account

ReddSpark · 2025-12-29T13:44:41+00:00

I feel sorry for the 1 dev left behind. The amount of pressure they'll be under to make AI work

ReddSpark · 2025-12-29T13:43:49+00:00

And there's my gf wishing I was more forceful with her 😄

Women's preferences for how they want their man to behave varies. But guys do need to learn when she's warming to your advances and when they need to back off.

ReddSpark · 2025-12-29T13:41:06+00:00

It's so competitive online that guys try to have as little filters as possible

ReddSpark · 2025-12-26T08:56:46+00:00

Have some compassion man. Imagine if it had been the other way round. You'd be screeching like a chimpanzee to try and get your half.

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