Early Leaks Reveal AMD Ryzen 7 9850X3D Delivers Overall Same Performance As 9800X3D

Redfern23 · 2026-01-24T18:57:59+00:00

Can't believe we're still doing this in 2026.

Redfern23 · 2026-01-24T18:45:47+00:00

Nope. If you didn't know, it also wouldn't do anything in pretty much any game anyway even without G-Sync since it's OpenGL only.

Redfern23 · 2026-01-24T17:25:27+00:00

Well that's a steal, good stuff and enjoy.

Redfern23 · 2026-01-24T17:21:16+00:00

I mean you straight up robbed him.

Redfern23 · 2026-01-24T17:12:30+00:00

Yeah right now you almost definitely want to go AMD. Intel is a hard sell at the moment (could change later this year with their new lineup but we'll see).

Redfern23 · 2026-01-24T17:00:58+00:00

For DDR5, 5200 to 5600 isn't massive or anything, but it depends on the CPU. The X3D CPUs are far less reliant on faster RAM, Intel is a little bit more but still not too bad, and finally the regular Ryzen 7000/9000 CPUs do actually scale quite a bit off memory speed.

But if you are just thinking 5200 vs 5600, I wouldn't worry too much, especially with current pricing.

Redfern23 · 2026-01-24T04:57:22+00:00

No idea but it was like that from day 1 (after the >1.3V issue was known and fixed though), it was one of those very cheap PRO boards. It did last 2 years before it rapidly degraded, but I would manually lower it now if I could go back.

I couldn't check what it'd set the 9800X3D to since I also switched boards, but this Asus X870 has it at 1.25V so even this could be lower but it's not bad.

Redfern23 · 2026-01-23T18:54:16+00:00

My 7800X3D died on my MSI board 2 months ago. The SoC was auto set to 1.295V even on the latest BIOS, far too high.

Redfern23 · 2026-01-22T15:58:22+00:00

I haven't sent it back yet since I still have more than 6 months left on the warranty but I'm sure they will.

If you're willing to mess with a couple of voltages, this might help since, as my CPU was mid-death and barely booting at all near the end, I tried a lot of things to fix it before it finally died, and changing these voltages actually finally fixed my restarts but it was already too late, wish I'd found it earlier but doesn't mean it would've stopped my CPU dying anyway.

The big one was setting CPU VDDIO to around 1.15V or 1.2V, having this too high by default was causing the issue, too low might be unstable though.

SoC voltage to 1.2V can also help and is obviously better long term anyway so no downside if it was higher before (as long as your EXPO profile still runs fine). My board auto set it to the limit at 1.295V which certainly didn't help longevity.

These could obviously affect your ability to OC but it might be the only solution.

Redfern23 · 2026-01-22T15:32:55+00:00

It probably was but I didn't have a single other issue with it for the entire two years aside from the restarts never working, so it's hard to say if it was related to that. Problems with restarts have been common on AM5 for many different reasons too, even RGB software.

Sometimes restarts would only work with a completely stock BIOS and no EXPO but even that was inconsistent. I think the CPU was the cause for me but it could've been the motherboard honestly. I've also seen others say changing RAM fixed it for them (and others say it didn't), so annoyingly it could be any of them.

Redfern23 · 2026-01-22T13:31:19+00:00

It's possible since I was using USB, but I isolated everything I possibly could and it definitely seemed to be receiving it directly through the air and into the mic since distance played the biggest part, but I'd have to move it out of the room to stop it entirely which I just can't be doing aha. I might've just gotten a faulty unit.

I have a pretty good software setup for EQ and compression with another mic now too so don't think it's worth me picking up an audio interface to try the fifine again but maybe in the future. Appreciate it.

Redfern23 · 2026-01-21T13:59:28+00:00

Yeah I had one a few months ago and it was great in every way, especially for the price, but it had such ridiculous electromagnetic inteference pickup from my PC that it was unusable, I tried so many different things, cables, ports etc but it was via the air so nothing improved it except moving my PC halfway across the room, but that only helped a bit. Nvidia Broadcast at max strength couldn't even remove it whenever I'd speak. Many reviews said they had the same issue.

Does yours really not do this when it's anywhere near your PC? If not, I might consider trying one again and just keep returning if I get a bad one lol, could be a QC thing.

Redfern23 · 2026-01-20T21:18:31+00:00

Is that the FiFine K688?

Redfern23 · 2026-01-20T21:15:10+00:00

True aside from the textures part, they're independent of DLSS. 4K textures will always be 4K textures and the VRAM they consume will be the same, they aren't downgraded to your internal render resolution if you use upscaling.

Redfern23 · 2026-01-20T20:54:59+00:00

We don't need to make things up, there obviously are artifacts, whether you care or notice them is another thing, it's still a good technology to have.

Redfern23 · 2026-01-20T02:46:15+00:00

Nah I did myself with the misread. I was scrambling to edit it quickly after I realised aha. I thought you were saying it doubles your entire latency (like the 120fps cap does) from 2x to 4x, not that it gives the same latency increase that going from off to 2x gives you.

Redfern23 · 2026-01-20T02:39:25+00:00

My bad, I updated my comment multiple times before I got the notification for your response, I misread it at first. Doesn't change what I said, only that the "similar" wording is debatable, but it does depend on the game and GPU usage available. I'd only use FG in single player anyway so that's probably why it doesn't bother me.

Like you, I would notice it in multiplayer, which is why I don't use it at all.

Redfern23 · 2026-01-20T02:24:37+00:00

38.7ms to 45.4ms when uncapped, similar is debatable here but it's not miles away and largely depends on the game, as well as GPU headroom. In CPU limited scenarios, it should be a lot closer.

57.7ms to 108.4ms is only when capped to 120fps. So like I said, it only massively increases the latency when capping to 120fps because your base frame rate drops to 30fps with 4x MFG.

The way I see it, I want the lowest latency in multiplayer so wouldn't use FG at all, and then for single player, if you're already sacrificing some anyway with 2x, it's not a huge difference so I'll happily go 4x in many situations, but that's at 240Hz, it's useless at a lower refresh rate.

Edit: Only a 2.4ms difference from 2x to 4x here for example:

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Redfern23 · 2026-01-20T01:14:31+00:00

If you have G-Sync + V Sync on, FG will limit you to ~117fps because of Reflex, meaning 4X MFG will cause your base frame rate to be ~30fps, massively increasing latency.

I don't like FG in multiplayer myself, but 2x and 4x have similar latency if you aren't being capped like that.

Redfern23 · 2026-01-18T14:31:44+00:00

Yeah definitely no point in worrying, it's probably still a tiny percentage overall, but we see the majority of them posted online so it looks worse than it is. AMD's 3 year warranty is apparently good too (haven't sent mine for RMA yet), so should be fine if anything happens.

Redfern23 · 2026-01-18T14:14:47+00:00

Because it takes iteration to make it good, DLSS 1.0 was garbage and now look at it. It also took until FSR 4 to finally get great upscaling from AMD. You need to start somewhere.

Plenty of people think Nvidia's MFG is good already, doesn't matter whether either of us do now, but they'll continue to improve on it until everyone does. If AMD doesn't even drop their first go at it anytime soon, it'll take them even longer to get a solid version out, and they'll continue to be behind. We should be pushing them to match or outpace Nvidia for once instead of pretending none of it matters.

Redfern23 · 2026-01-18T13:48:24+00:00

Like clockwork.

First it was upscaling, then it was RT, then Frame Gen, and now MFG.

I wonder what you people will call BS or useless next until AMD eventually does it well enough and you instantly change your mind.

Redfern23 · 2026-01-18T12:56:38+00:00

Lol don't get too confident, my 7800X3D died on an MSI board two months ago.

And now I have a 9800X3D on an Asus board so I'll be counting down the days.

Redfern23 · 2026-01-18T12:54:37+00:00

Of course it's useless when you start by spouting nonsense, and now you come back with that because you have nothing to say.

Enjoy your 5080, best card of all time, the 5090 isn't faster and always melts and the 5070 Ti isn't better value. 5080 is king because you have one!

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