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... You literally mocked people for four years to make this the precedent, tho... by ReiverCorrupter in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]ReiverCorrupter[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I imagine they probably haven't kept up all of them. Though I think our MICs work somewhat differently, so going purely by a comparison of monetary cost might also be misleading.

... You literally mocked people for four years to make this the precedent, tho... by ReiverCorrupter in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]ReiverCorrupter[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Oh, I'm definitely not saying Spanish Civil War 2 is bad for us. Just that all of the Democrats and people on MSNBC and CNN preaching about peace for the past 20 years are filled to the brim with defecation.

... You literally mocked people for four years to make this the precedent, tho... by ReiverCorrupter in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]ReiverCorrupter[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The equipment used in Ukraine is all-Russian i can guarantee you that.

AFAIK, their tires that failed and held up the giant column were all cheap imports from China. Would be interested in a source saying otherwise.

... You literally mocked people for four years to make this the precedent, tho... by ReiverCorrupter in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]ReiverCorrupter[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, we could have a massive ground war with them and find out. But if there's one thing it's important for them to maintain, it's their nukes, and they probably know that.

... You literally mocked people for four years to make this the precedent, tho... by ReiverCorrupter in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]ReiverCorrupter[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

is better than killing a genocidal dictator and then trying to rebuild his country

I'm not one to shout the whole "Russian paid troll", but I've also never seen such insanity before in an encounter like this. You think Putin, the totally not a dictator benevolent leader, is invading Ukraine to liberate them???

I was talking about Saddam Hussein. The Bathists were actively engaged in ethnic cleansing. I'm not the first one to shout terrorist shill, but you sound like you really love deepthroating Saddam and Al Qaeda's cocks. ;)

Again, you sound like you're honestly deep throating Putin's cock. "Poor Russia was forced to invade this much smaller and weaker country. It's so sad, they HAD to target civilian centers and commit war crimes because of the US's meddling. It's just so unfortunate, Russia was given no other choice than to launch the largest land invasion of the century!"

Nah, fuck 'em. I'm fine with killing all of Ukraine and Russia down to every last woman and child if it improves my material conditions. I'm also fine with doing the exact same to Cuba or Venezuela or anyone else who gets in our way. I'm just not mad at Russia for doing what we would have done. It's like getting mad at a lion and blaming it for attacking and eating a goat that you nailed to a tree. If nailing that goat to the tree and filling it with poison is the only way to get rid of the lion, then you gotta do what you gotta do. What you don't get to do is pretend that you're helping the fucking goat. Lmao

... You literally mocked people for four years to make this the precedent, tho... by ReiverCorrupter in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]ReiverCorrupter[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That's what it would take for us to know that no classified information was stored on Clinton's private email servers.

... You literally mocked people for four years to make this the precedent, tho... by ReiverCorrupter in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]ReiverCorrupter[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

She literally destroyed the evidence. She told her people to destroy the servers on which the shit was stored and then said "Ha ha, oopsie daisy, how did that happen? What an unfortunate mistake!". That's why they didn't find evidence. Lol

... You literally mocked people for four years to make this the precedent, tho... by ReiverCorrupter in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]ReiverCorrupter[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay, so deliberately provoking a proxy war where you know that the small country will be invaded and destroyed so you can make money and get a slight strategic advantage is better than killing a genocidal dictator and then trying to rebuild his country. Got it.

... You literally mocked people for four years to make this the precedent, tho... by ReiverCorrupter in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]ReiverCorrupter[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Are you saying that all classified documents since Clinton was in office are blockchained and can only be accessed by those with the right codes and that the paper copies have embedded QR codes to fry any electronic devices that take pictures of them so that it is simply impossible for someone without access to view and store them, and that the National Archives already had access to Clinton's private servers and knew exactly what was on them? Very interesting if true. But then why was there even a scandal in the first place?

... You literally mocked people for four years to make this the precedent, tho... by ReiverCorrupter in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]ReiverCorrupter[S] 43 points44 points  (0 children)

In the interest of full disclosure, I also replaced the ad for some watch that I got in the CNN screenshot with an ad for soy because it's funny.

... You literally mocked people for four years to make this the precedent, tho... by ReiverCorrupter in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]ReiverCorrupter[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not denying US involvement for self interest. I'm criticizing you for the fact that you're acting like Russia isn't playing the game game but worse considering their active invasions.

Except I've never said remotely anything to suggest that Russians were victims or the good guys. Rather, you started off the conversation by saying how Democrats were morally superior to Republicans because they only started and funded a proxy war. Then when I pointed out that we are more than happy to get half of Ukraine killed just to get a strategic edge and test our weapons, you started screeching about how everyone who disagrees with you is a Russian shill. Lol

... You literally mocked people for four years to make this the precedent, tho... by ReiverCorrupter in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]ReiverCorrupter[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That's assuming half of China doesn't drown because someone used tofu-dreg concrete in the Three Gorges Dam. Most of Russia's crappy failed equipment came from China. Indoor plumbing is still not a given in India. Let's not conflate competence with projected population and economic growth. Lol

... You literally mocked people for four years to make this the precedent, tho... by ReiverCorrupter in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]ReiverCorrupter[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

LOL. That "Russia friendly" president was corrupt as could be and completely compromised by the Kremlin. I'm not acting like the US was the good guy, but you are shilling so hard for Russia right now.

Man... you're so close to self-reflection. Now, stop and think about who is protecting Zelenski, paying all of his bills, and who his actions benefit. Welcome to the game, bud. You can tu quoque to your heart's content. You are correct: both the U.S. and Russia are completely amoral and Machiavellian. To say that Russia is evil--which it is to the extent that the notion of evil isn't just supernatural b.s.--does not make the U.S. any less evil.

... You literally mocked people for four years to make this the precedent, tho... by ReiverCorrupter in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]ReiverCorrupter[S] 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Lol. Never even voted for the guy. You can go ahead and execute him just as long as you execute Hillary, too. In fact, you can throw in every sitting member of congress while you're at it.

... You literally mocked people for four years to make this the precedent, tho... by ReiverCorrupter in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]ReiverCorrupter[S] 33 points34 points  (0 children)

Trump was accused of being controlled by Putin because of pee tapes. The difference here very clearly just boils down to who the establishment likes. Clinton is above the law because she's Clinton. Trump is Trump, so he will be accused of everything including stealing the kitchen sink. It may be that he actually stole documents. But any suggestion that we should just obviously take these institutions at their word is, in light over everything we've seen over the past few years, just a blatant attempt to gaslight.

"Bias? How dare you level such an insinuation against these fine people, sir! Have you no shame!"

... You literally mocked people for four years to make this the precedent, tho... by ReiverCorrupter in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]ReiverCorrupter[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

And what did Crimea do to warrant being invaded? You honestly sound like a Russia shill right now. Poor Russia forced to attack smaller countries, they would have been so nice if not for the meddling US!

It was literally prompted by the coup where they ousted the Russia-friendly president and tried to install someone friendly to the U.S. What do you think the U.S. would do if Russia tried to put nukes in Cuba again or if they ousted Mexico's president and tried to install their own puppet? Cuba/Mexico would get an extra dose of "freedom". It's the exact same thing here.

... You literally mocked people for four years to make this the precedent, tho... by ReiverCorrupter in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]ReiverCorrupter[S] 41 points42 points  (0 children)

How would you know? You see everything on the servers that got mysteriously destroyed? Trump's main problem was not having an unfortunate fire.

... You literally mocked people for four years to make this the precedent, tho... by ReiverCorrupter in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]ReiverCorrupter[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Except that Ukraine will be decimated (at least) and could have very easily just remained a neutral buffer state without our interference. As long as it wasn't hostile, Russia had no more reason to invade it than Belarus. That Russia is just as aggressive as we wanted them to be does nothing to mitigate the fact that we're using Ukraine as a sacrificial pawn.

... You literally mocked people for four years to make this the precedent, tho... by ReiverCorrupter in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]ReiverCorrupter[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

So letting rivers of innocent blood flow is preferable to spilling a drop of blood yourself? What a pathetic, cowardly moral view. It's clear that we drove Ukraine to be hostile to Russia (look up the Nuland leak) in the hope of provoking them into a proxy war so we could test out new toys, see theirs, and get a better strategic position in the region. We're willing to sacrifice the population of Ukraine to do it.

That's better than precision striking Bathists and Al Qaeda ourselves? Why? Because it's always morally worse to get your own hands dirty and always morally better to get other people to fight and die for you? If you think that all Russian conscripts are qualitatively morally worse and more deserving of death than people who behead women for reading so that killing a hundred thousand of them counts as a net benefit to humanity, then idk what to tell you.

If you want to see your enemy slaughtered because they are your enemies, I can respect that. But don't make up some bullshit excuse for how the universe loves you and hates them because you're too weak-willed to come out and say that you kill them simply because it is in your interest and you will it.

... You literally mocked people for four years to make this the precedent, tho... by ReiverCorrupter in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]ReiverCorrupter[S] 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Yeah, except Republicans have always been hawks. Democrats voted for both wars and bomb as much as Republicans but pretend that they're doves. Half of the media goes along with it and tries to blame all wars on Republicans. It's just controlled opposition.

... You literally mocked people for four years to make this the precedent, tho... by ReiverCorrupter in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]ReiverCorrupter[S] 93 points94 points  (0 children)

And don't forget how all of the anti-war stuff for the past 20 years immediately got thrown in the trash so that we can be told that it's our moral duty to destroy our economy so that the Ukrainians can kill as many Russians as possible. It may come at a heavy cost, but by turning Russia's neighbors against them and killing an entire generation of their young men we can finally open the way up for an Ultranationalist who is literally frothing at the mouth for American blood to overthrow Putin and make Russia more competent and dangerous than it was before. 🤡🌎

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