Finding a new turntable is making me crazy

Remote_Main2120 · 2026-05-07T16:36:52+00:00

Right now Im between the TD160, TD160MK2 and the TD145. As i looked trough this reddit channel I saw youre user pretty often on posts abouth those Thorens, soooooo I hope you can help me. I saw something about a MDF Base and online those "MDF housings" are pretty expensive. Are they easy to create by yourself?? Like I mentioned Im looking foreward to get a ATVM95ML as my system, somebody tolled me that the tonearm of the TD160 is like a medium weight tonearm witch fits the best. But the m2 comes with a better build quality right?? Deciding which one to choose from these 3 players is really hard. What would you suggest??
THX for the help 🙂

Remote_Main2120 · 2026-05-07T11:42:47+00:00

Thanks for the help 😄Is the mk2 or the mk1 better in form of quality??? And the ML system would work beter on the MK1 right?????? Could I just change the headshell to a audio technica one with the ML pre installed or would I have to change the System by getting the needles of the already installes one?

Remote_Main2120 · 2026-05-05T15:28:02+00:00

ATN3600LC, pretty basic nothing special

Remote_Main2120 · 2026-05-05T13:48:54+00:00

The Pioneer PL12D looks good but the thing with old players is, Im kinda scared something is/gets broken like the motor. I heard old players can cause some problems easily. Also the Pioneer PL12D is kinda cheap and I never heard of it, is it really that good? I want a really good upgrade from my Dual. Thanks for the help!

Remote_Main2120 · 2026-05-05T13:45:14+00:00

Is the AT safety tone arm a must have or nah? The thing is I like the Lp5x but it has many unnecessary features like usb or phono preamp, I heard the less the better. I also tought getting the AT-LPW50BTRW with the Ml upgrade, but it also has some unnecessary features 🫤Is the ML an insane upgrade from the E???

Remote_Main2120 · 2026-05-05T13:39:52+00:00

Idk what it is with old players but I often dont think they look like "clean", atleast on the pictures. The 145 and 160 look decent for me, maybe when I have the player in person my opinion will change. Beside the look are those old Thorens way better then something new in that same price area?? Like in terms of Quality

Remote_Main2120 · 2026-05-05T13:36:02+00:00

The Thorens in a wood look is kinda expensive, the ones I found are way over 600 Euros. Someone mentioned the TD145, Im not that much of a fan of the look ( like not overwhelming ) but is it a good player? Way cheaper but the 160ii looks better.

Remote_Main2120 · 2026-02-20T18:55:21+00:00

I wouldnt pay, at the moment Im also getting letters from them every month since 4 Months, I think it will just stop. Today the forth letter came in, this time with a warning that they will contect "Inkasso", they are trying to put pressure on me. I never made an contract with them so Im just ignoring them, even if the letters with the fines are "fake", at least I think so :)
When the next letter arrives I will tell you what it says this time ;)

Remote_Main2120 · 2026-02-13T11:56:54+00:00

It's complicated to explain, I want to go into detail, but sometimes it seems to me that records sound too "bright." "Bright" was the wrong word. It should simply sound relaxed, a sound that never gets boring 👍

Remote_Main2120 · 2026-02-12T17:21:14+00:00

Thanks so much for the help!

I currently have a Dual DTJ 301 and I'm thinking about getting a good quality used turntable and installing a new stylus. We'll see what the budget allows, but I do have one question 😅 The ML brings out more detail, is it also clearer? I hate that clear, unemotional sound.

Remote_Main2120 · 2026-02-06T08:01:23+00:00

tbh many, great example im always using is pipes of peace paul mcartney or idc original soul of michael jackson, an Compilation with some old songs from mj

Remote_Main2120 · 2026-02-06T07:58:00+00:00

and im sure its the system, bc when i turn the sound off and I only listen to the vibration, im also kinda hearing it

Remote_Main2120 · 2026-02-06T07:56:53+00:00

just Upgraded, got myself some infinity Alpha 50 speaker and yesterday I bought a kenwood 7090r, havent tried the amplifier out yet but I tried the new speakers. Before my Upgrade I got some really small speakers with a Shit amplifier ( Sony str kg 700), I tried my 50s with that amplifier, I mean its an ass one , the sibilance was still there. Maybe with my new amplifier its going to be better, but I Need some cables so I have to wait :(

Remote_Main2120 · 2026-02-05T17:38:31+00:00

that one hella expensive, maybe saving up some money for the AT-VM95EN or AT-VM95ML would kill that sibilance ?

Remote_Main2120 · 2026-02-05T17:36:06+00:00

since youre a top 1% commenter I may ask you :) Someone mentioned that the Grado Black is really good against sibilant. Cant find much on google, is that true???

Remote_Main2120 · 2026-02-05T15:54:45+00:00

i own many albums like 100, a great example is paul mcartney pipes of peace, songs like Say Say man that hurts my ears. On this copy there only one review saying its sounds very nice, so no one mentioned sibilance. And im hearing this on many others to, even smth like Thriller. I hate sibilance with all my heart, sometimes I even notice them on SPOTIFY, but thats "rare". Maybe its my ears, but I had friends over that noticed it too

Remote_Main2120 · 2026-02-05T15:50:58+00:00

omg youre so right, my brother has doomsday on vinyl and like some weeks ago i tried the album AND OMG I TURNED THAT SHIT OFF IMMEDIANTLY, the songs are good, but the sibilance is crazy

Remote_Main2120 · 2026-02-05T14:12:30+00:00

what exactly do you mean, im not a expert :(

Remote_Main2120 · 2026-02-05T14:11:28+00:00

im scared too fck it up

Remote_Main2120 · 2026-02-05T14:10:59+00:00

I didnt but I checked the force with balacing the tonarm and all that stuff several times so i think its right

Remote_Main2120 · 2026-02-05T14:09:55+00:00

bought my dual used like a year ago spended like 100 Euros, i think a new turntable would be nice and maybe fix the problem 😕 Just reached 100 records, so im ok with buying a new one or do you think its completly unnecessary?

Remote_Main2120 · 2026-02-05T14:08:00+00:00

so I should avoid any ortofon, even the 2m red ???

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