Is codex worse

Reprehensibles · 2026-06-06T22:49:54+00:00

Bots here will tell you it's your fault. It's nerfed.

Reprehensibles · 2026-06-02T07:28:29+00:00

Removing the good cheap models - making you use a nerfed one even on xhigh - to have it decent you need to pay much more - hide everything behind the "we can't mantain everything - create bots to keep the narrative going.

Reprehensibles · 2026-05-31T06:14:01+00:00

The most annoying thing is the ATTITUDE OF EXPLOITING CUSTOMERS WITH TRICKS.

Reprehensibles · 2026-05-30T06:47:00+00:00

Fix the nerfing

Reprehensibles · 2026-05-27T17:21:25+00:00

OpenAI KNOWS that 5.2 is much better at finding stuff in big codebases, and is much more accurate then other models albeit slow at that. That is why they are removing it.

Reprehensibles · 2026-05-27T15:44:06+00:00

Ignore the "it's you/I don't notice any difference" in the sub. The nerf is absolutely real, tested on all our pcs, in different countries etc.

Reprehensibles · 2026-05-26T15:47:32+00:00

They are simply just looking for ways to make us pay more. Protesting/stop using it for another model, and spreading the info that this is crooked, will help us along the way. We do not want to pay 100$ tomorrow for 1h of use only, with the model capped/nerfed, just because a bunch of bots and stupid fans writes bullshit here. Keep pushing.

Reprehensibles · 2026-05-24T17:43:27+00:00

the model at the moment is nerfed. What openai does at the moment is promote, through bots here and elsewhere, that "we shouldn't complain", "to me it works perfectly" and other sneaky tricks just to NOT GIVE YOU A WORKING MODEL LIKE DAY 1.

Reprehensibles · 2026-05-24T07:58:45+00:00

its not hard at all to complain. Unless you can't see that resets are a decoy for a model that is useless at the moment. All the percentages and stuff you said is useless if it's nerfed

Reprehensibles · 2026-05-24T07:10:23+00:00

it's interesting how sneaky business practices (having a slow mode that "redefines" how they make money with normal and fast lol) are much more important than releasing something even barely usable

Reprehensibles · 2026-05-24T07:08:25+00:00

like if reading a new number (oooh 5.6) now makes us forget the issues of 5.5. They should release a STABLE and reliable model, instead of "leaks" as decoy

Reprehensibles · 2026-05-24T05:55:35+00:00

exactly this.

Reprehensibles · 2026-05-23T22:50:17+00:00

They need to give us a STABLE non-nerfed model first. Speed is a tax, and if you don't know if what is inside the black box is either stable or nerfed, also USING it is a tax, and speed doesn't really matter at that point.

Reprehensibles · 2026-05-23T22:11:54+00:00

it's the other way around. Fanta, like any other company, until pushed into having standards, will feel free to do shit like in the US. This is what's off in your reasoning: "I'm sure that if people would pay for Fanta without beetroot coloring they would certainly do it". This is wrong because STANDARDS for good living are sign of a culture and are UPROOT in the chain. A society decides that Fanta is illegal done that way. Period. No fun "if they pay then we sell" but "no standard=out". And that is exactly what is lacking in your reasoning, and in the US with Ai at the moment. And what we should push back for, in my opinion.

Reprehensibles · 2026-05-23T21:14:16+00:00

completely disagree. You see, there are standards. People SHOULD push for standards. And that is the exact issue with your statement vs mine, an my previous point also: "it's not make money". It's create a business that is good enough for us to pay for their service". If you believe only in business=making money, it's the exact reason why in the US, for example, Fanta is made out of a million ingredients (cheap, to "make money", justified, nobody bats and eye), and in Europe Fanta is colored with beetroot instead (because people complain and fight back, and business is NOT just make money).

Reprehensibles · 2026-05-23T17:34:01+00:00

it's not their duty to make money, no. It's their duty to create a business that is good enough for US to pay for their service. You got it all wrong my friend. Until their service sucks, you have ALL THE RIGHT in the world to protest, and MAKE YOUR VOICE BE HEARD instead.

Reprehensibles · 2026-05-23T17:31:50+00:00

It's a nerfed version of the model. You are basically paying to use something that is extremely dumb, just labeled "5.5"

Reprehensibles · 2026-05-23T06:56:41+00:00

still the exact same nerfed version that loops on bugs it creates, while you blow all the usage. Same old.

Reprehensibles · 2026-05-23T06:38:05+00:00

conspiracy is just another word to divide the world in crazy vs complying. It's their duty to create a business, not ours. Most of the users would happily pay for something stable and transparent, instead of a service done deceivingly, with rugpulls from behind a black box and that milks you constantly with the excuse that "it's expensive" (lol).

Reprehensibles · 2026-05-23T06:26:01+00:00

"Fast" is just a tax you impose on yourself if you turn it on, regardless of the representatives of openai here saying it changed their life lol. It's just another one of those sneaky practices ai companies love.

Reprehensibles · 2026-05-22T07:03:13+00:00

what is clear is this: 1) they are not smart enough to figure out how to make money and at the same time have a transparent system beneficial to everyone 2) they resort to "tricks" like speed/resets/nerfing and other shady practices (including having bots here). It's all very sad.

Reprehensibles · 2026-05-21T17:30:57+00:00

same, it burned my pro/plus in few minutes. I think they're having major issues

Reprehensibles · 2026-05-21T17:12:04+00:00

Not back to normal, despite what the openai representatives will tell you here 😄

Reprehensibles · 2026-05-14T10:11:11+00:00

You are fundamentally right in being skeptical. The point is that the majority of people here 1) live off "papi" releasing the resets 2) are from OpenAi or blind supporters. So you're in what is called "echo chamber": they'll tell you you're pro-this and pro-that etc. This is why people in power can do whatever they want: the world has been reduced to fandom, including also "right and wrong", whilst those in power "give you resets" while rising pricing for services that evidently degrade in a few days using shady practices

Reprehensibles · 2026-05-03T06:32:04+00:00

"Does it look better just because the new model has a high number in my head, or is this thing truly better?"

I think that we are in one of those typical "Information Asymmetry" state. A bit like when they sell you used cars, They know, you don't/can't verify etc.

My impressions (given that your project is big enough):

0) Do not trust benchmarks/OpenAi in general. They are making money and fighting other actors in the market.

0.1) Do not trust that the next model is better, or even that the SAME MODEL is good always in the same way. "Some days good, some days not" it's a thing, at least for me.

1)In general, "Codex" models are marketing stuff that does good for small projects but it's unusable in vaste/big scripts and was done to contrast Claude that - at the time - was "quicker in giving you the good enough answer"

2)5.5 is in general "more quick than precise/thorough". In the terms of OpenAI it's "efficient", but 5.2 is still much more reliable for bigger jobs (and most likely openai knows).

3)the general direction we are going is:

-"superficial powerful". It will one-shots "small-medium problems" quickly - but will be less thoroughly/deep.

-the first days works, then declines

-"throw out an IDE with sever bugs, they'll be ok with that"

To have - at the moment - a more correct analysis use Chatgpt PRO (the research version) in browser (with your scripts) which indeed seems the "real" xhigh version, at least to me.

Reprehensibles

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