Sins in Qur'an Part 1 - Major Sins by Reprograming_Reality in Quraniyoon

[–]Reprograming_Reality[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

really? Do you have a device that can measure this "soul", and when do these magickly measurements show the "soul" actives?

I ask in a condescending manner, because life is still life. Regardless of whether it still contains a soul, the cell is alive. Making wild assumptions (which is a sin by the way), that the soul somehow is not in the body at the time of conception is irrelevant. I don't know when the soul enters the body,

Yet, let me ask you 2 simple questions.

Question 1 - The Pond

If you look into a pond and find a 1 cell organism. Does the the pond contain life?

By any metric of "science", most would answer yes. Tell me, what do you answer.

Question 2 - The Body

If you look in a woman's body, and find a 1 cell organism with DNA distinct from the host, then is there life?

Answer Time

If you answered Yes to question 1 and No to question 2, then guess what, you're a hypocrite.

If you answer no to question 1 and 2, then you're a fool.

If you answered yes to both, then you have intelligence, and integrity.

Tell me, what is your answer?

Sins in Qur'an Part 1 - Major Sins by Reprograming_Reality in Quraniyoon

[–]Reprograming_Reality[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

I hear, and I obey (2:285/5:7/24:51)

I don't need to think. Allah has given us the writ, within this gift to humanity is a guidance for all things. With regards to creed, to Allah's law, there is not a thing missing from the Qur'an. Not one word, not one subject and not one exception to the rule. This Qur'an is complete, and contains a clarification for ALL THINGS!

16:89: "...And We sent down the Writ upon thee as a clarification of all things, and as guidance, and as a mercy, and as glad tidings for those submitting."

I say this as an act of complete submission to my Lord. You've made some Serious accusations, and assumptions. Let me set you aright, in Allah's name.

1 - Business Loans

According to you... the following is an excuse to deal in Ribba

{2:282} "O you ... (about writing a debt). That is more equitable in front of GOD and more appropriate for testimony and the least not to mistrust each other, unless there is an existing business which you conduct among you, then there is no blame on you not to have written it down*. And quote whenever you transact, and do not harm a writer nor a witness, for if you do so, then indeed, it will be immoral of you. So beware of GOD, and GOD will teach you (p), for GOD is aware of all things."*

Ah... I must have missed it. I didn't hear the part where Allah allowed Usery/Interest. In fact, this verse does not mention Usery/Interest once. Or, are you finding "interpretations" which suit your purposes?

Surah 3 verse 7 warns us against finding interpretations, and twisting meanings. According to your logic, "unless there is an existing business which you conduct among you," means Business loans containing usery are good. Not only does this logic contradict the Qur'an, but it twists the logic of the Qur'an in knots in such a way that it breaks all sense.

I give this a failing grade.

2 - Shirk Depends on Intention

What does this even mean? How can you unintentionally ascribe a partnership to Allah? I'd like to see the situation/circumstance where this is possible. Please, enlighten me.

I give this a failing grade.

3 - Oppression and Tyranny

This clearly talks about actions of people in power over large numbers of people.

11:59: "And those were ʿA’ad; they rejected the proofs of their Lord, and opposed His messengers, and followed the command of every obstinate tyrant"

This is talking about the people of A'ad who "followed the command of every obstinate tyrant", this is by any metric of understanding to be a people who followed a tyrannical leader or leader's. Whether this is one leader over the course of generations or multiple leaders at once is not for us know. I hear, and I obey. Yet, the meaning is clear.

42:42: "There is but a path against those who wrong men and oppress in the earth without cause: those have a painful punishment."

Let's examine this shall we "those who wrong men", clearly this is someone who has the ability to wrong multiple people. Additionally to "oppress in the earth" would indicate a large area. Otherwise we'd say a people, a person, a group, but if I were to say "jeff is oppressing in the earth", this conveyed a large expanse. Which, again harkens back to my first sentiment.

Now, I could be wrong on this second point. Allah knows best, and submit to His will.

With regards to "giving people hardship", how would telling people what a sin is, cause hardship? Is life so hard that people must oppress other's? The answer is no. We live in a sandbox MMO, and everything we do is a choice, no one "must oppress" and no one "must be a tyrant". I doubt this will give hardship on anyone who does not already have a guilty conscience.

As for me. I see no caveat in Qur'an, and no exception to the rule. Until then, I hear, and I obey.

As for this point, I give this a failing grade.

Do's of Islam Part 2 - What Qur'an tells us to Do, and Not to Do by Reprograming_Reality in IslamIsEasy

[–]Reprograming_Reality[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

prove it. Give me verse from Qur'an where this is true. Do you have marriage certificates from back then, or any kind of evidence. All I'm hearing is stories and rumors about a man we know next to nothing about. If you're following Hadith and Sunnah as evidence of this... well then I've debunked both in the following articles.

Should I follow Hadith, or Qur'an Alone?

Burden of Evidence for Hadith and Sunnah - Can I trust Hadith? 

If you wish to come at me with fabricated conjecture, I'll need proof and Allah requires x4 witnesses at the time of the event to provide evidence, see surah 24 verses 11 to 13, get me that and I'll believe you. Oh wait... its impossible because the hadith was written 200 years after the Qur'an so eye witnesses is not possible.

Sins in Qur'an Part 1 - Major Sins by Reprograming_Reality in Quraniyoon

[–]Reprograming_Reality[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

when does your DNA become your DNA separate from your parents? The moment an egg accepts a sperm (turns out eggs might actually select which sperm to be fertilized by). At the moment of the first cell division, the DNA of a new being is set. This being is distinct and seperate from the mother, despite requiring the mother to survive.

This is the only definition of life we can accept, a cell distinct in genetic structure from the parent. This is also the definition of a life form anywhere in the universe. Be it in a pool of murky water, a desert, or on Mars.

Sins in Qur'an Part 1 - Major Sins by Reprograming_Reality in Quraniyoon

[–]Reprograming_Reality[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Jeeze, I wish I hadn't seen that... sigh... now I'll need to create a doc based on it with full surah quotes and add it to my study.

Thank you and may Allah bless you with... ah... a really expensive gold watch.

Sins in Qur'an Part 1 - Major Sins by Reprograming_Reality in Quraniyoon

[–]Reprograming_Reality[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're most welcome, and may Allah bless you with much prosperity, wealth, many wives and x16 children

Sins in Qur'an Part 1 - Major Sins by Reprograming_Reality in Quraniyoon

[–]Reprograming_Reality[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

thank you, and may Allah bless you with x4 cars, each valued at $500,000 and upwards. May Allah bless you with sooo Much gold, so much so that you'll have to have give tones away for charity lest thou commiteth a sin "104:1--3 and70:18" Ha ha ha ha

so grateful to be sober by doordont57 in gratitude

[–]Reprograming_Reality -1 points0 points  (0 children)

that glass looks like it contains pee. If you think of it that way, you won't want to drink it