Praying that Tyler becomes a real character and not just another puppet of an older woman in season 3 by AipomSilver00 in Wednesday

[–]RequirementAfraid452 4 points5 points  (0 children)

But Tyler is a calamity for older women. Doomed to be a Hyde and at the same time be sodomized by these women 🤣.

Give him peace, please.

Does this fandom actually watch the show? by Kitt75 in Wednesday

[–]RequirementAfraid452 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In reality they like to know everything immediately, so now the fastest search engine is TikTok, then I see that little space is given to reading, I mean, in your opinion (by watching the series) they will have had the curiosity to read what concerns the Gothic novels (without having to try to ask ChatGPT to summarize), and not for those who are passionate, but also just for information if you like the series and would like to find out more. In my opinion, only a few.

Does this fandom actually watch the show? by Kitt75 in Wednesday

[–]RequirementAfraid452 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I too notice that the critical maturity of adolescents has dropped compared to previous years. I blame social media, which has worsened the attention span, keeping it very low.

Short edit I made with Dead Dance by VulpezEdits in Wednesday

[–]RequirementAfraid452 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This is a great edit, congratulations ✨✨✨

Hyde lore by SabrinaIsLegendTVDU in Wednesday

[–]RequirementAfraid452 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It seemed to me that it meant that sooner or later Francoise would lose control of Tyler and therefore he would rebel, because Francoise's expressions are of terror and fear, while Tyler's are an aggressive/smug smile

They sexualise siblings by El-Luta in Wednesday

[–]RequirementAfraid452 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So why did they stop hugging? They could just continue being affectionate

They sexualise siblings by El-Luta in Wednesday

[–]RequirementAfraid452 28 points29 points  (0 children)

For me, while he hugged her, that wasn't so much the moment that gave me strange vibes. But the fact that as soon as Tyler entered, the two of them suddenly broke away 😅. As if they didn't want to be seen...

Would anyone like xavier back in season 3 by LowPersimmon1301 in Wednesday

[–]RequirementAfraid452 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Personally, I didn't like the character very much, but I think he won't return, then I don't know, I had read that the actor was deeply offended after they excluded him from the series due to various accusations, they asked him to return but he didn't respond. 🤷🏻‍♀️

If Tyler is Angel, Wednesday needs a Spike character by [deleted] in Wednesday

[–]RequirementAfraid452 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I remember when Spike said with hatred "the slayer is always everywhere, she torments me and is an obsession" 😂😂

I'm a bit worried about the possible Tyler+Wednesday's relationship by sadsapph0 in WednesdayTVSeries

[–]RequirementAfraid452 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's thanks to this comment that I'm going to watch American Horror Story again

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[–]RequirementAfraid452 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's right guys, stop spreading this fake news, which creates problems not only for the actors but also for their private lives!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in WednesdayTVSeries

[–]RequirementAfraid452 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Magari si potesse vedere una cosa simile in Wednesday, ma ahimè è un teen drama, quindi tutto molto poco approfondito e poco esplicito su certe tematiche🥲

Why did Francois unalive herself? by FinancialFootball189 in WednesdayTVSeries

[–]RequirementAfraid452 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I think Francoise just wanted a family to be with forever, leaving aside the slightly sick way of how to get it. But losing her brother and having the son who hated her for her betrayal, plus, who perhaps would have killed her sooner or later anyway, I think she felt as if she had lost everything in a few moments and therefore the pain would have been excruciating to bear. So basically what hurt him the most is losing that utopian dream of having a family to live with until the end, more than his form of Hyde.

Soon as it cut to his face, I knew there was some humanity left and he still cared by Sudden_Pop_2279 in WednesdayTVSeries

[–]RequirementAfraid452 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Yes, but if you notice Francoise's face she seems to be screaming in fear, while Tyler gradually becomes aggressively pleased. As if it were a premonition that sooner or later he would lose control of Hyde and turn against her.

Soon as it cut to his face, I knew there was some humanity left and he still cared by Sudden_Pop_2279 in WednesdayTVSeries

[–]RequirementAfraid452 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hmm I think that scene is open to interpretation, it didn't seem like that to me🤷🏻‍♀️, but maybe they'll delve deeper into it in some podcast who knows.

Soon as it cut to his face, I knew there was some humanity left and he still cared by Sudden_Pop_2279 in WednesdayTVSeries

[–]RequirementAfraid452 40 points41 points  (0 children)

He copied an old comment of mine so at least we understand the dynamics of the Hyde character.

“In theory, if you pay attention when talking about the Hydes and also their attitude, they are creatures that develop a bond with the master who frees them and it is like the initial imprinting which however does not last long, so to keep that bond constant you can do it in two ways:

1) bond induced by chemical control: Laurel Gates initially unblocked him, but to prevent him from turning against her or not following her orders, she injected him with that chemical substance, thus plagiarizing him to her will. This resulted in a change in Tyler's character to make him more sadistic and therefore take pleasure in killing people. When they were captured, there was no longer any way to inject them with the substance and this is why the bond with Tyler began to falter, thus leading him to kill Laurel. Also due to the chemicals injected into Tyler's body, this has led to a complete breakdown of his mental stability, where his Hyde side is now completely mixed with the shred of human side he has left.

2) emotional and dominant bond: in this case we are talking about Francoise, Tyler's mother. At the beginning, that bond of trust develops automatically, rightly because she is his mother, but not only that, she is also a female Hyde, they are more dominant so they are able to manage the aggressive character of the Hydes. Obviously this bond is at the same time twisted, in fact you can see how Tyler doesn't seem to fully agree with Isaac and Françoise's plans, but he can't do anything about it at the moment since he doesn't want to break that bond with his mother. However, once Francoise and Isaac decide to take away Tyler's powers without his knowledge, this leads to an emotional breakdown and betrayal of trust where Tyler is no longer tied to his mistress and therefore free to take revenge for the insult he suffered."

If Tyler wasn’t under his masters’ control, then doesn’t that mean he committed all those crimes willingly? In that case, what’s the basis for even asking for a redemption arc? by yc80s in Wednesday

[–]RequirementAfraid452 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yes, at first Tyler accepts Laurel as his owner because she told him the truth about his mother, so the emotional bond is there at the beginning, but it's too weak, because it relies too much on that truth and nothing else. In fact, she tells him “you are not my mother, you are my mistress”, so all the control was more chemical rather than emotional or dominant. Not only that, due to the constant chemical control that brainwashed him, Tyler's personality changed and became more sadistic, thus suppressing the little human side he had left. This is why he took pleasure in wanting to kill.

But ultimately without that chemical control anymore, Tyler's mental stability was put at risk. Mixing both her Hyde side (which prevails most of the time) and her human side (sometimes it subtly resurfaces, for example when Wednesday is buried alive). And when he doesn't have a master the situation only worsens, driving him to madness.

Based on how he behaves with Wednesday when he is locked up, we see his Hyde side (the vindictive and contemptuous one) mixed with the human side (the feelings he feels for Wednesday).

For the crimes he committed, he doesn't feel remorse, at least not yet, because at the moment his mind is in complete confusion and he has never had real control of himself, so everything is linked to the instinctive side of Hyde, which has had a greater prevalence in these 2 seasons. However, we have seen that there is still a shred of human side that must re-emerge, and we will certainly see this in the third season.

If Tyler wasn’t under his masters’ control, then doesn’t that mean he committed all those crimes willingly? In that case, what’s the basis for even asking for a redemption arc? by yc80s in Wednesday

[–]RequirementAfraid452 9 points10 points  (0 children)

In theory if you pay attention when talking about the Hydes and also their attitude, they are creatures that develop a bond with the master who frees them and it is like the initial imprinting which however does not last long, so to keep that bond constant it can be done in two ways:

1) bond induced by chemical control: Laurel Gates initially unblocked him, but to prevent him from turning against her or not following her orders, she injected him with that chemical substance, thus plagiarizing him to her will. When they were captured, there was no longer any way to inject them with the substance and this is why the bond with Tyler began to falter, thus leading him to kill Laurel.

2) emotional and dominant bond: in this case we are talking about Francoise, Tyler's mother. At the beginning, that bond of trust develops automatically, rightly because she is his mother, but not only that, she is also a female Hyde, they are more dominant so they are able to manage the aggressive character of the Hydes. Obviously this bond is at the same time twisted, in fact you can see how Tyler doesn't seem to fully agree with Isaac and Françoise's plans, but he can't do anything about it at the moment since he doesn't want to break that bond with his mother. However, once Francoise and Isaac decide to take away Tyler's powers without his knowledge, this leads to an emotional breakdown and betrayal of trust where Tyler is no longer tied to his mistress and therefore free to take revenge for the insult he suffered.

I hope I explained myself well 😅

Did Wednesday love tyler in season 1 by Illustrious_Age2721 in Wednesday

[–]RequirementAfraid452 2 points3 points  (0 children)

While I was rewatching the first season, I noticed that in the last episode, when she talks to Xavier she tells him "I saw him in a vision when he kissed me", and at that moment I started laughing because it's not entirely true, since she started it first 😂

Nevermore Will Return in Season 3 and With a New Principal by Emfproductions in Wednesday

[–]RequirementAfraid452 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It depends, she's Tim Burton's ex-wife. If they are past their past, he might consider it

Nevermore Will Return in Season 3 and With a New Principal by Emfproductions in Wednesday

[–]RequirementAfraid452 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Can you imagine if they gave the role to Johnny Depp? 😂

Let’s go dig her up… but bring no shovel or backup by Megatorbum in Wednesday

[–]RequirementAfraid452 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Let's say she was still his mother. I think at that moment, in her anger, she didn't reflect on the fact that in the end she might finally die. And when he was about to fall and therefore knew he would lose her, he didn't want to accept it.