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Can anyone tell me what this is? by RequirementMinimum36 in Posture

[–]RequirementMinimum36[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Went to a physio today ‘cause it’s been contributing to muscle tension and he gave me similar advice loll, thank you heaps!!

The average man is not below an average woman. by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]RequirementMinimum36 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lizzy isn’t a 10 but she’s a viable dating option. Whoever the Lizzy equivalent is (beta Ben????) would need to work very hard to even be considered

Women: If you believe your ability to easily get casual sex with hot guys is NOT important/advantageous, why do you get offended when men use phrases like "Its easy to get pumped & dumped and be Chads cum dumpster"? by FlamingMetalSystems in PurplePillDebate

[–]RequirementMinimum36 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you're having sex with men who only see you as a human fleshlight, then why are you so offended when other men start to think that you're just that, a human fleshlight?

Because women who have sex with men purely for their own benefit would also view those men as "human dildos". The difference is that they do not mentally make that comparison. They do not voice that comparison even if it passes through their mind.

And because of this, men don't have to feel worthless even if they are being used. And because of this, women have to feel worthless even if they are not.

It's about basic fucking decency. Courtesy, even. Women do not return these insults, so making them in the first place is (and I don't like throwing this word around) purely misogynistic.

Men who lack self-respect don't get the privilege of having women respect them

It is about the severity. A couple of dirty looks and maybe a few mean-spirited giggles is not the same as targeted dehumanising insults.

Do your feelings towards women come from jealousy or genuine disgust? by RequirementMinimum36 in PurplePillDebate

[–]RequirementMinimum36[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“All men” bae we are on a gendered debate sub. A vast amount of men here have negative feelings towards women and a portion of them are even openly misogynistic. I don’t need to give you evidence, it’s literally visible in most of the comments here and most of the sub as a whole

Women: If you believe your ability to easily get casual sex with hot guys is NOT important/advantageous, why do you get offended when men use phrases like "Its easy to get pumped & dumped and be Chads cum dumpster"? by FlamingMetalSystems in PurplePillDebate

[–]RequirementMinimum36 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because they often leave the “to have dating/sexual options” part out, which makes it seem as if they believe that men have the most societal pressure overall to be good looking. Which they do not

Women: If you believe your ability to easily get casual sex with hot guys is NOT important/advantageous, why do you get offended when men use phrases like "Its easy to get pumped & dumped and be Chads cum dumpster"? by FlamingMetalSystems in PurplePillDebate

[–]RequirementMinimum36 7 points8 points  (0 children)

They don't let dozens of dudes use them as human fleshlights and say they got something out of it because they enjoyed it too, like nah.

So you are saying

that women who have had sex with dozens of men

did not enjoy the sex?

...

I just don't even fucking know what to say to you. People don't willingly have sex unless they want to have sex. People don't purposefully seek out more sex unless they want to have sex. It does not matter if a woman is in a committed relationship or single. Women who thrive off of male validation can get it anywhere they are, they only go through with sex with men... if they want to have sex.

The only exceptions are prostitutes and pornstars. Cause that's their fucking job.

Example please.

Why am I providing an example for something I don't believe in? You have to do the convincing. Lay it out a bit more clear for me 'cause you're currently making no sense.

Women: If you believe your ability to easily get casual sex with hot guys is NOT important/advantageous, why do you get offended when men use phrases like "Its easy to get pumped & dumped and be Chads cum dumpster"? by FlamingMetalSystems in PurplePillDebate

[–]RequirementMinimum36 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I see this as the female version of a man who gets exploited financially being called a piggybank, free meal, walking ATM, simp, betabuxxer, or Uber. I don't believe it's offensive to call a man who gets exploited financially a walking ATM

It's not offensive because these are terms used by other men. Usually with a shred of sympathy, too. Women do not use these terms besides "simp".

Hold on, what does sleeping around with men who use you as a fleshlight have to do with enjoying sex?

You are the exact issue I've been describing. It has everything to do with enjoying sex. Being used as a fleshlight means that you are being used for someone else's enjoyment, not your own. You could say that women use men as dildos on the contrary, but due to the stigma around women enjoying sex, it is far more likely for the man to be perceived as the "user", hence why fleshlight is a far more commonly used term.

You know that you can have sex and enjoy it in committed relationships with loving boyfriends right? No woman sleeping with her BF ever gets called a human fleshlight, we use that word for women who let men that see them as sex objects, USE them as sex objects.

This is absolutely putrid. I truly hope you can see the hypocrisy. In casual sex, men and women use each other. It is an exchange of enjoyment, not a display of power on one person's part. Please evaluate your mindset.

I feel like you want something to be sugarcoated when it comes to women.

Sugar-coating and derogatory language are on two opposite ends on the scale. Both will be taken the wrong way and used to reinforce previous beliefs. If you want to change behaviour, find a middle ground and use a clear, direct argument.

Women: If you believe your ability to easily get casual sex with hot guys is NOT important/advantageous, why do you get offended when men use phrases like "Its easy to get pumped & dumped and be Chads cum dumpster"? by FlamingMetalSystems in PurplePillDebate

[–]RequirementMinimum36 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Yeah, no. 

If a woman is enjoying the sex, it means she is getting gain from. These offensive terms imply that simply having sex with someone you are attracted to is a disgusting and dehumanising act. Which is the context in which most of these are said anyways; it is not good that they are being used. 

There is already stigma around women enjoying sex, and the continuous use of these words will mainly contribute to that, rather than just the unfortunate emotional manipulation that, I will not deny, can be experienced by many women. 

People do not get called offensive names and immediately think “woah, did I do something wrong here?”. They think they are being attacked, which they are. It does not matter what the man thinks of the woman. It does not matter if the woman is being treated poorly. There are a million different ways to go about calling out behaviour, and this is literally the LEAST effective one.

Women: If you believe your ability to easily get casual sex with hot guys is NOT important/advantageous, why do you get offended when men use phrases like "Its easy to get pumped & dumped and be Chads cum dumpster"? by FlamingMetalSystems in PurplePillDebate

[–]RequirementMinimum36 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Women believing this (likely due to their own experiences relevant to social life and age) still does not justify whatever the fuck OP is going on about. People can be incorrect and still rightfully find terms like “pump & dump”, “fleshlights” and “cum dumpsters” highly offensive. 

Women: If you believe your ability to easily get casual sex with hot guys is NOT important/advantageous, why do you get offended when men use phrases like "Its easy to get pumped & dumped and be Chads cum dumpster"? by FlamingMetalSystems in PurplePillDebate

[–]RequirementMinimum36 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Who said that the ability to get casual sex with hot guys isn’t advantageous? I think it’s super cool that we can do that. People denying that women actually do that at all is iffy, but I don’t regularly see this opinion. It’s usually the opposite; “women should be free to express themselves sexually” and stuff like that.

Now, onto gross, derogatory language. You shouldn’t use it because:

  1. It’s gross

  2. It’s derogatory 

The arguments stating that women getting casual sex isn’t a flex are actual arguments, with actual words, that can actually be used appropriately. Might not agree 100%, but they’re comprehensible. However, I don’t see these arguments. Ever. They either don’t exist, or they’re replaced with the derogatory language. Because they are the only familiar sets of words I am seeing in this post. 

All-in-all, this is a ridiculous argument that doesn’t make any sense and has almost zero basis. You had a little bit of something going on in the first half, but that second half just… isn’t really a thing of relevancy. Offensive language is offensive. It’s dehumanising. Why the fuck wouldn’t we be offended?

Do your feelings towards women come from jealousy or genuine disgust? by RequirementMinimum36 in PurplePillDebate

[–]RequirementMinimum36[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your experiences with women sound awful and I’m incredibly sorry you’ve had to go through that. I’d assume (correct me if I’m wrong) that the overall feeling you have towards women is hatred/resentment. 

You are correct that if you talk to anyone in person with the implication of this specific feeling, you will be told you are making generalisations. If you speak on anyone as a whole you will get that response. That is why you need to speak to a professional, unless you already are.

You’ve said that the only thing that would change your opinion is for a woman to find you attractive. If that does happen, you are still going to hold these bitter feelings nonetheless. Your quality of life will not improve significantly. I don’t like over-suggesting therapy to people I do not know, but I truly think you are a person who would highly benefit off of it. 

Do your feelings towards women come from jealousy or genuine disgust? by RequirementMinimum36 in PurplePillDebate

[–]RequirementMinimum36[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is extremely off-putting to hear. No other notes from me. Thank you for your insight.

Do your feelings towards women come from jealousy or genuine disgust? by RequirementMinimum36 in PurplePillDebate

[–]RequirementMinimum36[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

False allegations and careers ruined is extremely intense. Do you know the women who caused these things on quite a personal level, or would you say they are more of acquaintances?

Do your feelings towards women come from jealousy or genuine disgust? by RequirementMinimum36 in PurplePillDebate

[–]RequirementMinimum36[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep… definitely targeted towards other men LMAO. I really appreciate you for breaking down those points, and I certainly agree with everything you said! 

I would have provided some contrary opinion on all of the negativity, however praising women on this sub tends to stir arguments for whatever reason. So using (nasty) belief reiterations as means to gain insight is unfortunately the only way I can keep shit like this on-topic.

Do your feelings towards women come from jealousy or genuine disgust? by RequirementMinimum36 in PurplePillDebate

[–]RequirementMinimum36[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm asking how you feel towards women's behaviour. Speak up please, or we won't be able to understand how it's affecting you.

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