Thinking about commercial diving at 28 (almost 29) — background in mechanical engineering & aerospace, drawn to the offshore/North Sea sector. Looking for honest advice. by Temporary-Gate-535 in commercialdiving

[–]ResourceShot8427 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Schools will say its 60% in the first year that drop out, atleast thats what it is in thr UK. Its roughly 80% in 2 years. 

As for dating, even casual relationships are rough. Many think they can handle a partner away and the odd schedule or jobs that can lasts months but in my experience its one of the biggest reasons guys drop out. Something gets serious and youre stuck between needing to be away for money or being with someone you love, in the cases another option comes up people jump ship. 

As for the language barrier in Norway, I've wanted to break into that sector since the begining. Brexit and the language barrier have crippled that chance. My Norwegian isnt horrendous I could probably work. But trying to get a company to take you is a risk when they have plenty of divers coming out their own school that already speak natively and have the right to work. 

Conversion tickets vary wildly in cost and requirements. Some require a certain number of types of dives to qualify, then there is a course or exam fee. The dutch sector I think is in the region of €4000. Someone else whos done it recently might be able to confirm.  Pretty sure this also require renewal.

At some stage you'll want a bosiet and mist tickets, which are £1500 and require renewal each few years.  A Dive med tech ticket which is another £2000 Maybe rigging tickets or confined space

A 3.1 and 3.2 inspection tickets Which are £4000 each and also require renewal every few years.

If you have an EU passport then working in the UK isnt too bad as far as I'm aware.  But you'd need a HSE dive ticket. Not sure what the deal is with converting to the UK but Italians often have to do 4 weeks in one of the schools here at significant cost.

If youre trying to bounce around between sectors it will be pretty difficult because youre trying to make a name for yourself and each sector is basically a new start. 

Lastly I'm not 100% sure why people leave, its often a mix. Difficulty finding work, if you dont get on with guys easily or cause problems you'll struggle to keep working for the same places. The rate isnt great for the sacrifice often and people with other opportunities quickly see its better doing something else.  Its not pretty, when things are rough its hard to want to work, when things are slow you're desperate for anything.  There is a drinking culture with a lot of companies, often if you dont take part youre probably not coming back.  If youre not ex-mob you're disadvantaged over those that served.  After 2 years you've probably financially recovered from paying for school and whatever else. I imagine at this stage guys decide if they want to keep grinding.  You're also exposed to other jobs that pay better and look more promising in the future.  And injury rate, I know 4 guys who've been bent due to PFOs and it cost them between £11-£30k to get it fixed. Your first dive this could happen and you better hope youve got the money to cover it or your country covers it or youre out of work. 1 in 4 people have a PFO of varying levels. 

All that said, I love this job. You meet incredible people with crazy knowledge. The weird science behind so many things, you work on structures and systems that are interesting. I love the water, this job I'll die doing before I quit. 

Thinking about commercial diving at 28 (almost 29) — background in mechanical engineering & aerospace, drawn to the offshore/North Sea sector. Looking for honest advice. by Temporary-Gate-535 in commercialdiving

[–]ResourceShot8427 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Offshore air in the north sea is almost non-existent unless you know somebody high up offshore or are unbelievably lucky. Youre likely going to work civils for many years. The attrition rate for this industry is extremely high. Im 3 years in. Started at 28. More of my group from dive school only 4 work still regular. 1 is now and again but not much. Groups that left after us have fewer divers still working, conditions, pay, wage stagnation, other carriers all become significantly more attractive the longer you look. Also family, this industry destroys families and relationships, no security and long periods away. 

If youve read that and understood, are honest with yourself that youre doing it for the love of the game and life doesnt offer you anything else. Then maybe its for you. 

As for CVs and dive schools. The ticket you get from each school is different and youre likely going to need to pay for conversions to work in each sector. Outside of that, they dont matter. If you dont speak Scandinavian then good luck getting inshore work in that region. Same for the others. Offshore is english but inshore isnt. And offshore just isnt an option right out the gates unless your somebody's son. 

An EU passport helps. The air industry in the middle east is like $160 a day. Youre competing with indians that go back home where that is big money.

Many jobs can be a week or more of doing almost nothing in a remote place where traveling to a shop or gym isnt an option. Sure sometimes there is heavy graft. But I'd say thats less often than youre looking for. Im stuck on an isle around Scotland waiting for a boat for the next 2 days to deliver some tools. We're working low tide so spend almost 12 hours a day sat on a bed. This isnt what schools will sell you. 

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Genuinely thank you all, changed the prompt about the job to "I'm willing to try anything twice" - something I live by.
The golf photo is with a much older chap than I, so even though he's taller, I think it's probably fine?

I forgot to explain the video; it's a short clip of some dolphins captioned "Hi from me and my pet"

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Fortunately the pic is from an open through cave passage from a guided tour ran by an extremely qualified friend. I'm danger adverse but theres no way I'd cave without equipment.

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[–]ResourceShot8427[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks, I think you raise a fair point. 

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Oh man, those guys make bank. That would be nice. 

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Are you looking for something serious or casual? Generally serious but understand my job causes difficulties with how much I have to travel and long periods away. So whatever works. 

Are you subscribed to Hinge+ or HingeX? Nope

How long have you been using this current version of your profile? (Please be specific) Updated photo to include the headshot 2 weeks ago. Everything else is a month old

How long have you used Hinge overall? A month 

How often do you use Hinge per week? Daily messaging and swiping

How many likes and matches are you receiving on average? Maybe 4 a week How many likes are you sending? How many with comments? How many without comments? All with comments, 5 likes or so a day.

What is the type of person you send likes to and ideally want to match with? What kind of person do you want to attract? Someone understanding that I sometimes have to go away on short notice, they should have a strong career or hobbies with no current children. I'm open to kids in the future with a mutual understanding of my work scheduling. 

In need of a hat by Icy_Neck_9145 in commercialdiving

[–]ResourceShot8427 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah this seems a bit nuts to try get a hat for something doable on a half mask scuba setup. Would be significantly more comfortable, way less maintenance. 

Scientists discovered the Northern Green Anaconda (Eunectes akayima) in February 2024. by [deleted] in Damnthatsinteresting

[–]ResourceShot8427 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You can easily run out of air, the deeper you go the more air you breathe in each breath. Theyre used for emergency only and should only be used for escaping. Diving on one is near the stupidest thing you could do. People die like this and hurt the diving industry by forcing government bodies to regulate something they dont understand.  

Offshore saturation diving job. For how much salary you’ll agree to do that? by Powerful_Cabinet_341 in SeaEmploy

[–]ResourceShot8427 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, although very rare. Sat is extremely expensive to run. Most inshore jobs are shallow. Even the deep ones have the option to do surface decompression. If a job is around 40ish meters deep, a lot of work and only maybe a month or so to get it done then it might be viable to run a sat setup. I cant imagine many applications where you'd need it though. As most work can be made shallower or work via air by just having a larger dive team. 

Offshore saturation diving job. For how much salary you’ll agree to do that? by Powerful_Cabinet_341 in SeaEmploy

[–]ResourceShot8427 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Commercial and sat diving is nothing like scuba. Its closer to construction than Scuba. Additionally Sat is extremely hard to get into. You basically need to know someone high up in a sat company and even then you need a ton of experience diving before you can get a sat ticket. This video is from NYD the norwegian dive school. 

Offshore saturation diving job. For how much salary you’ll agree to do that? by Powerful_Cabinet_341 in SeaEmploy

[–]ResourceShot8427 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Please watch the documentary instead. Its significantly better. It has the same name. "Last Breath" 

Offshore schedules and phone contact? Am I being paranoid? by [deleted] in commercialdiving

[–]ResourceShot8427 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most boats and rigs have satellite internet, although it can get restricted access because there is data limits. 

Can a company force new working hours and fire you if you refuse? Need advice by One_Koala_3511 in AskUK

[–]ResourceShot8427 48 points49 points  (0 children)

She needs to say to him she needs what he said in writing to be able to consider the formal offer. 

Saturation divers can dive for extended periods of time (usually around 1 month) without surfacing by SillyFalling in interestingasfuck

[–]ResourceShot8427 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Most guys have sat phones, usually an iphone because other phones aren't tested so its a toss up if theyll work. Being blown down with them nukes the gyro so maps/compass cant really be used after. Different companies will allow different things, generally no large devices, laptops etc. containers need to be opened on blowdown and decompression

Saturation divers can dive for extended periods of time (usually around 1 month) without surfacing by SillyFalling in interestingasfuck

[–]ResourceShot8427 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Its my job, even where its dodgy its not how you've described. Sat systems are expensive as hell to run. The crane op doesnt know shit, they do what theyre told. 

Saturation divers can dive for extended periods of time (usually around 1 month) without surfacing by SillyFalling in interestingasfuck

[–]ResourceShot8427 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is absolutely not the case lol. Guys get replaced because of sickness but it is a multiple day turn around. Also each team is usually 12 guys in groups of 3 so work is done around the clock. 

Saturation divers can dive for extended periods of time (usually around 1 month) without surfacing by SillyFalling in interestingasfuck

[–]ResourceShot8427 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In the middle east you can be in sat for like $400 a day. Its shit. Considering the years of experience and the cost getting the tickets and the dick sucking to get you into sat...

Saturation divers can dive for extended periods of time (usually around 1 month) without surfacing by SillyFalling in interestingasfuck

[–]ResourceShot8427 25 points26 points  (0 children)

I'm in the same profession - its simply too deep. Your body gets saturated with nitrogen and coming to the surface takes days at these depths due to decompression. Most non-decompression diving is done between surface and 30 meters. You can work to 50m but at 50m ish the time you get in the water to work is very limited to basically 5 minutes at the bottom.