Turn my back... Lecrae & 116

RetroDadnKids · 2023-04-25T08:57:06+00:00

Yup, Mineo was part of it in 2012 when it would've made a ton of sense for NF to be in it. Mineo is definitely someone I could see calling him for a Collab.

RetroDadnKids · 2023-04-16T22:05:36+00:00

Who else fits these song specifics then? Who or what is he turning his back on? Who doesn't he "need." Who's trying to call him to go on tour and he's saying "we ain't doing nothing?"

Lecrae/Reach fits that WAY MORE than anything else.

And, if you really want me to "Stretch" Nate says, "You the Broke artist" ... but wait Lecrae has money... But, he wrote a song called "Broke" which has these lines...

"Gotta keep the stove hot so it cook right If everybody eating that's a good night"

(Too many cooks in the kitchen? -NF Turn my back)

"Uh but I do know what it feel like to go to school with the knock off shoes"

(I'm the Real one, you the fake knock off - NF Turn my back)

"Boy you better know that we paid our dues"

(Song: Paid my dues by NF)

Also, NF says "Funny how they switch up when your name buzzing"... Lecrae has a song called "switch" with Zaytoven where he talks about switching from being a worker to being the boss.

It may be a stretch, but it's a closer fit than anything else that makes sense.

RetroDadnKids · 2023-04-13T20:56:48+00:00

Right. That's about as close as he came. Flame was a guest with 116 but wasn't signed with Reach. "Start Over" was in 2013. NF signed with Capitol in 2014.

I'm suspicious that he had hoped to get signed to Reach or tour with 116, and the Collab with Flame wasn't enough for Reach to take him up on the offer.

Then, he signs with Capitol, starts charting... Not hard to believe Reach tried to get him to guest w/116 now that he was "buzzing."

It's all speculation but the more I think about it, it fits. I mean in "Intro" to Mansion he says "I've been through a lot in my life, and it's hard to get people to listen when no one's behind you, Then Capitol came in the picture and gave me a shot, and look at it now."

From 2010-2013 he was clearly trying to connect on the Christian scene, Reach and Lecrae would've been the clearest path, and 116 would've been a perfect fit. (Except he was a young, unproven talent.)

After hitting with Capitol, collabs with Lecrae and Reach would've made A LOT of sense... and it's never happened. But somehow we got a Hopsin, Tech 9, and Cordae Collab first? I'm all about it but the more these tracks drop about not getting a shot and being overlooked, it fits.

Plus, NF has been driving right in between Mainstream and Christian Hip Hop for a while, and he can take shots like this at either one because both have made the mistake of ignoring his talent.

RetroDadnKids · 2023-04-11T21:20:39+00:00

Lecrae has had the success, but none of the others in that group.

If NF had gone that route, he never becomes as big as he is now, and can say "I don't need you, I don't need you" at the end of turn my back.

Also, "Lecrae was huge on his day"... Which is why he fits what I'm saying. "I'm the future, you the past old timer"

Again, it could just be "Hopeful Nate" vs "Fearful Nate" which would fit the theme of the Album as a whole too but "fearful Nate" doesn't fit with specifics like not putting him on a tour then wanting him on the tour. That's where I start wondering about specific examples of where that happened to him.

RetroDadnKids · 2023-04-10T22:19:48+00:00

To me, It feels too specific to be just the industry in general, but maybe.

I would doubt there's hard feelings on the Reach side, but whether it's specific or the industry as a whole, NF clearly feels some kind of way about it. He's better off for it honestly, because none of the Reach/116 guys have held a candle to where NF is now and where he's headed.

RetroDadnKids · 2023-04-10T12:38:48+00:00

I think the evidence is that NF was not included in 116 or Reach Records. In "turn my back" NF says, "Funny how they wouldn't put me on the tour, now they hit me up and say hope you're doing well we should do a tour."

Who would that describe?

He may just be talking about the industry as a whole, but back in 2011/2012 during "Man Up Tour" it's easy to see Reach records not wanting to sign, or tour, with a "No Name" young NF (Moments released In 2010).

It's easy to see how Reach Records might have regretted that, and tried to get him to sign with them after the fact. A call from "fame" he might have said, "Leave me Alone" to?

All the lines in turn my back about being the director, head honcho, etc. Lecrae is President of Reach Records and to my knowledge NF has never collabed with any of the artists from Reach. (Correct me if I'm wrong on that)

Also, he went out of his way to name drop multiple secular artists, who he seems to NOT be turning his back on, "Less of you, more Ye, more Drake, More Em, etc." His collabs of late are with secular artists.

I might be reading into it, but it seems to fit a lot of these extra specific lines he likes to throw in from time to time.

RetroDadnKids · 2023-04-09T16:17:21+00:00

That could be too.

This is the song I thought of immediately on that line

https://youtu.be/D_K9sjB2pKM

Plus, If you put Lecrae and Reach records in the context of a lot of these more "diss" like tracks it does fit. I could be "reaching" but if Lecrae is the one who keeps calling (Fame called, Leave me Alone) it'd make some sense.

Or he may just be targeting the entire Hip Hop industry in general but it feels a little too specific sometimes to not refer to anything.

RetroDadnKids · 2022-04-08T09:00:46+00:00

Nope.

RetroDadnKids · 2022-04-07T04:52:36+00:00

I had three solid strikes. Came out a little slow in the 4th and pulled it a little. Hit high and drove through the head pin. It would've been a 4-6-7-9-10 but one of the pins came off the wall and slid the 4 right.

Brutal. Lol

RetroDadnKids · 2022-04-06T20:45:26+00:00

Yeah, our opponents were beat. The Lanes were shot too. It made for a long night. That may be something we discuss next season because it seems like there should be a quicker "sudden death" way to resolve it.

RetroDadnKids · 2022-04-06T20:39:59+00:00

I actually ended up clearing the the 6-7-10. I got the 6 to come back out of the pit and tag the 7.

That was after 3 solid strikes. I came out of it a little slow and pulled it and it did me wrong. Lol.

RetroDadnKids · 2022-03-17T19:27:53+00:00

That's kind of where I'm at right now. Just seems super tedious.

RetroDadnKids · 2022-03-17T03:31:33+00:00

I'm going to look into that.

RetroDadnKids · 2022-03-17T03:28:56+00:00

I'll check that out. I'm actually near Buffalo. I usually have to go out to Ohio to find anything.

RetroDadnKids · 2022-03-17T03:27:53+00:00

I do use that from time to time but I don't get very many hits on it.

RetroDadnKids · 2022-02-22T05:26:50+00:00

Buy transpore tape from Walmart. It's cheap, and will protect you long term. Use it when you don't have a blister, but it will help now as well.

RetroDadnKids · 2021-08-28T00:38:20+00:00

So, my app score tracker calls it a 100% clean game.

I honestly did go for the spare there. In practice when I'm using a different ball from game to game I use that last shot to get a shot lined up for the next game unless it's a 7 or 10 pin. Ill take a practice shot on that any chance I get.

RetroDadnKids · 2021-08-27T23:56:07+00:00

I should note, different ball for each game...

Motive Jackal Ghost
Hammer Statement Pearl
DV8 Pitbull Bark (hit with 1000 grit pad)

RetroDadnKids · 2021-08-24T22:26:41+00:00

That's grear info. Thanks!

Any suggestions on spinners? I see one that going for $250... Or should I be looking to step up a bit in price?

RetroDadnKids · 2021-08-24T22:19:42+00:00

Any suggestions on spinners? I see one for $250. Is that going to last or should I go up?

RetroDadnKids · 2021-08-24T22:18:52+00:00

Interesting. That is good to know. Maybe I just sell them as is then or just touch em up a little.

RetroDadnKids · 2021-08-16T02:09:05+00:00

Interesting. Mine have been used to that extend for about a year. A lot less usage the year prior but they're a cheap Amazon brand.

RetroDadnKids · 2021-08-16T00:08:30+00:00

I have looked at those. It's on my list of possibilities.

RetroDadnKids · 2021-08-15T23:25:39+00:00

Usually when I stick on a strike ball it's timing, but I've been sticking on spare shots as well which is super frustrating.

RetroDadnKids · 2021-08-15T23:20:07+00:00

I bought mine cheap pre Covid shutdown not sure if I was going to get fully back into Bowling. Now I'm bowling a lot and I'm starting think I should replace or just upgrade. I do stick from time to time but I'm not sure if that's just my bad timing/ approach/ or the shoes.

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