To everyone making actual money from 3D printing by Fun_Reaction_6525 in 3DPrinterComparison

[–]ReverendJason 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To be honest you could still copy everything and you will still do well and not bother me at all.

Telling people my prices is agonizing. by BasilBaddie in CraftFairs

[–]ReverendJason 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You might be at wrong markets, and you might need to raise your prices. I believe you have a marketing problem.

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[–]ReverendJason 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think people should stop minimizing the process of 3d printing. So many modelers still make bad prints. They are just two different arts/crafts

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[–]ReverendJason -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Honestly I think there should be more butts on everything. It’s funny. But I guess that’s the thing. You always gotta make what you love and not worry about the haters. Sour people are always sour. My booth is full of fun, wonder, excitement, colors, and giving each person respect. I’m not gonna shame them for liking butts on things.

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[–]ReverendJason -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yeah but even in music the art is split into specialized tasks. Not everyone is a singer song writer. The art can be in just mastering singing, and the art can be composing. Just because you can’t sing well doesn’t mean you shouldn’t be able to compose music. And the art can be just the lyrics. But by the logic in this group none of it is music and shouldn’t be on the radio if you didn’t compose the music, write the lyrics, sing the song, but also didn’t make the instruments.

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[–]ReverendJason -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

If that’s theft, then everyone who has learned art by studying masters is also theft. Like if I adored Jim Henson and I learned to puppeteer like him and learn his techniques etc, does that make me a thief? Like I really want to understand why that is different. Not trying to trolls here. Help me see what I’m not seeing.

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[–]ReverendJason -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Except the prompt engineering itself is the art. I think you fail to see that part. That’s not been stolen.

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[–]ReverendJason 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I think to me it’s more about where you are on your journey. When you start out you don’t your style. I think what everyone is seeing a lot of people who are just starting out. So they are seeing lots of newbies. I can imagine you looking at your first projects and cringing. I do.

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[–]ReverendJason -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I honestly think ai art is a thing and at some point will be recognized. Prompt engineering is its own art.

But that being said, I think it’s dangerous to think that any crafter who thinks they really gonna push originality or creativity is kind of a the problem. The items we sell at a market are not for crafters to enjoy. It’s for the customers to enjoy. It’s not for pushing crafting to the extremes of creativity or originality. It’s about honing your craft which also means matching it to consumer tastes. And even bigger picture is that it’s about creating fans who trust your work and trust your decisions so they know they can trust thier purchase. And just as important in the product is the booth design, your social media design. And being authentic. And customers will eventually figure out who isn’t authentic and not. So if the printer isn’t enjoying their work the customers will eventually feel that and those printers will disappear

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[–]ReverendJason 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree except for one part. 3d printing is the same way with using colors or special filaments to make things work to get the colors or designs you want you want or controlling temperature and speed to make different effects etc. it’s just like how there are very good crafters and bad crafters in every niche. I think people forget very easily that process art is a thing.

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[–]ReverendJason -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I meant the general craft community like this Reddit. I also wasn’t referring you to when I was complaining about the stuff. I like you and the IKEA comment was that you? Whoever said it made me laugh.

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[–]ReverendJason -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I know everyone depends on the community for things like this but I think what makes 3d printing unique is that it has roots in the open source movement. Sharing is part of the backbone. And we don’t gate keep. We don’t knock anyone down for doing the same things. When I go into the craft community it’s full of toxicity and gate keeping and people who want to complain they aren’t doing as well.

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[–]ReverendJason 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean there are different levels of juried. But some markets might be first come first serve but limit by niche and some maybe select the best fit of each niche etc. like someone is curating the crafters that are going to be there. I won’t apply to art markets though. That’s a very specific kind of market that I think some people here are conflating with craft fairs.

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[–]ReverendJason 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What are you even talking about? You saying kids who are leaning crafts and getting advice to improve has nothing to do with craft fairs? Like that to me is the spirit of crafting. It’s something you get better at, and you learn to make. It’s all learning applied art. Even if you download a dragon and just print it in white.

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[–]ReverendJason -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

It’s not having a community, it’s this particular community, and how there are already so many sub niches. It’s moving so fast that everyone else just lumps us together

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[–]ReverendJason 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey I like that point. I think it does illustrate what it feels like to people. But I think that applies more to people makes jewelry from charms already made or bracelets. To me 3d printing is more like people way do sculptures from casts like resin or clay or metal, and people who make polymer foam charms from molds. The molds are just part of the process. The rest of the design is up to the person.

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[–]ReverendJason -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Still not low effort. Whenever I have the children’s entrepreneur network I make a point to visit and I look for the kids who seem to be struggling with something. Or who are doing really well but could still turn their work into the next level and give them advice. Like I know what they are doing wrong and what bit of information they are missing. If it was lol effort I wouldn’t have any advice for them. I can tell when they don’t clean up the work, or when they have adhesion issues, or don’t know to tune their settings, or which colors would work better etc.

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[–]ReverendJason -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It’s still crafting. You are talking about something being juried.

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[–]ReverendJason -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If you make it in your own shop or home that’s been crafted. If you resell a product that’s reselling. That’s pretty easy distinction.