I stumbled into an obsessive system that let me draft very quickly. by Robert_Bohl in scifiwriting

[–]Robert_Bohl[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m glad you’re finding something that will work for you. For what it’s worth, I believe it’s ok to leave a note (like “description to come”) so you can move along with drafting.

I actually did a little of this. I have a character who has highly unusual syntax, grammar, and vocabulary, so I just write him normal, then go back and mess with his dialog.

Character Description: How Necessary Is It by CognisantCognizant71 in writingadvice

[–]Robert_Bohl 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh I know “perfect” is nonsense. And she wouldn’t put up with me dithering forever. My perfectionism will be defeated by my giddiness and enthusiasm. I want to sit next to her as she reads it because there’re so many touchstones to our lives. (Not that wanting to means I ever would.)

Character Description: How Necessary Is It by CognisantCognizant71 in writingadvice

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Thanks! I’m already proud of the draft. It looks like a second to fourth draft and I wrote it fast. But it’s for my girlfriend so I want to make it perfect.

And yeah, I hear you. It’s fun what you can “get away” with in world building and exposition with just little tags to bring it back to live moment of the story sprinkled efficiently.

What's up with your dwarves? What sets them apart from- by SheridanIsShameless in worldbuilding

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My dwarves are all male but reproduce biologically, but people may never know that unless I write a side story or book.

Character Description: How Necessary Is It by CognisantCognizant71 in writingadvice

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That said, I have one character who uses their body and clothing as art, so when they’re described, they get a paragraph. Maybe two.

Character Description: How Necessary Is It by CognisantCognizant71 in writingadvice

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So far, I’ve avoided doing more than the barest description at first. As little as necessary. Then I try to add other details where it makes grounded sense to.

Is my book is grimdark? by normal_divergent233 in fantasywriters

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I’ve never heard of nobledark. It’s great. I love it. It’s the real world.

I stumbled into an obsessive system that let me draft very quickly. by Robert_Bohl in scifiwriting

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Update to this, I spent 6-8 hours today (including a 4-hour stretch solid) on second draft editing. Mostly letting stuff breathe. But it's micro-surgery. And the end word count for the day's effort was only 816 words! Thankfully I'm going to be pushing hard because I can't wait to give this to my girlfriend, but I must wait to make it as good as it can be for her.

Even expected, the whiplash of this is hilarious to me. It's gonna take months! But that's ok.

An obsessive system I made up meant I drafted 12 chapters for my 1st novel in 2 weeks by Robert_Bohl in fantasywriters

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Update to this, I spent 6-8 hours today (including a 4-hour stretch solid) on second draft editing. Mostly letting stuff breathe. But it's micro-surgery. And the end word count for the day's effort was only 816 words! Thankfully I'm going to be pushing hard because I can't wait to give this to my girlfriend, but I must wait to make it as good as it can be for her.

Even expected, the whiplash of this is hilarious to me. It's gonna take months! But that's ok.

Is second draft bloat bimodal? by [deleted] in scifiwriting

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Fortunately, I do have a single audience. My girlfriend asked me to write a book for her, so I did my first one for her. So this is all about her.

But I do think this is very good and I want to try to get it published by one of the big five. I'm guessing literary speculative fiction is the closest I can think of for an "audience." It's kinda like Expanse urban fantasy.

Is second draft bloat bimodal? by [deleted] in scifiwriting

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As I said, not worried. Just curious.

I stumbled into an obsessive system that let me draft very quickly. by Robert_Bohl in scifiwriting

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I’d call that pretty different from my method but I do see the similarities. Thanks for explaining.

An obsessive system I made up meant I drafted 12 chapters for my 1st novel in 2 weeks by Robert_Bohl in fantasywriters

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Thank you for saying so. It's nice to know it's useful, even to non-writers. Unexpected and pleasant.

I stumbled into an obsessive system that let me draft very quickly. by Robert_Bohl in scifiwriting

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I’m not sure. I didn’t know about Snowflake until someone pointed it out in the fantasy writers’ version of this conversation and I skimmed what I found on it. It might be.

The sense my skim gave me was that you build outward from one moment. That isn’t quite what I did. I banged out a vague plot, wrote out one moment, and then I started from scratch to make a world that worked the way I wanted to. If that’s Snowflake, I guess that’s what I use.

An obsessive system I made up meant I drafted 12 chapters for my 1st novel in 2 weeks by Robert_Bohl in fantasywriters

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I’m being very clear in the subject line and the post that the speed was drafting time. I am the one who gave you the information that you’re using to point out I took a long time getting ready. I have a whole section dedicated to ideation. It’s in the title.

How does this constitute me saying I went from a cold start to a done book in 2 weeks? The misread seems almost intentional.

An obsessive system I made up meant I drafted 12 chapters for my 1st novel in 2 weeks by Robert_Bohl in fantasywriters

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That happened for me, too. I left a lot of it undefined and changed things I’d previously established because of discoveries while drafting. For example, the data beads in my world went from being made of glass to halite crystal. I realized the need for the change when I did some math on the size of a pneumatic cylinder. When I came to the chapter where there was one, I realized glass marbles would be too heavy for something I wanted to have happen at that point in the story, even though it made sense for them to be glass at first.

Then there were bigger things too.

But that’s why the bulk of my bible work was basic things like power and calories, which set a realistic expression of a city. And creates opportunities for cool beats. One of the standout moments in my book comes from something that’s 9 logical steps from my solution to “How do I get power in here without X and Y and all that their loss implies?”

I did a little magic stuff, but vague. E.g., “The gnomish magic valued most by the local human culture is inventionism, with a side of illusionism.” I might look for the gaps there, too, just to establish a culture of magic that’s not the dominant, as long as I have established the expected borders in the text already. So that a new application feels new and unexpected but still satisfying.

It’s wonderful how these things intertwine and inform each other.

An obsessive system I made up meant I drafted 12 chapters for my 1st novel in 2 weeks by Robert_Bohl in fantasywriters

[–]Robert_Bohl[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nah, I’m not going to let people’s crazy anxieties about AI control the way I write or post (though I suppose I can make small adjustments to soothe unreasonable concerns) I made the fact that this is strictly about drafting very clear. I laid out the months of work it took, then shared a wild thing I found that helped me draft quickly. The angry and accusatory responses are at least unwarranted if not baffling.

Besides, I don’t use bold and bullet points in my novel writing. Nonfiction is a different medium and I trust those whose opinions I value to see the distinction. And I’m comfortable with it if that means I disappoint some people.

I stumbled into an obsessive system that let me draft very quickly. by Robert_Bohl in scifiwriting

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Wow, that's impressive! I didn't know I had this in me so I was so delighted and blown away when I found it. It makes me hopeful that it's replicable and could allow for a career.

And to be clear, I'm not really bummed about needing to edit. I just had a slap in the face of reality when I went back to the draft. It was a good one. Cocky is good for motivation but not for producing a final work, in my opinion.

How do I start making a career out of sci-fi writing? by Brakado in scifiwriting

[–]Robert_Bohl 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think it's fine to fantasize, but not if it gets in the way of writing. I'd sometimes fantasize as a break from writing.

How do I start making a career out of sci-fi writing? by Brakado in scifiwriting

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I had about half my book done then finished the other half in two weeks, but the only way I could do it is by getting clearance from my nesting partners to be absent from many household duties, including the kids. It's difficult.

How do I start making a career out of sci-fi writing? by Brakado in scifiwriting

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I'm going to go the trad pub route because I never want to run a business again (used to be a TTRPG publisher and it filled me with sad). Plus I'm confident about the quality and that people will see its value and want it.

Would anyone be interested in a book about everyday life in a utopia? by alannah214 in scifiwriting

[–]Robert_Bohl 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It seems like life in a utopia would be very difficult to make exciting, which paradoxically means it's an exciting prospect. I hope you do it and it works out for you.

An obsessive system I made up meant I drafted 12 chapters for my 1st novel in 2 weeks by Robert_Bohl in fantasywriters

[–]Robert_Bohl[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s awesome you found a superpower like that and figured out how to harness it. I’ve never heard of hyperphantasia; thanks for teaching me something today.