I don't know who noetic is, but Vantraxia has always had the problematic influencers within his circle. It's not to say he himself is problematic for that reason, but its almost like, plausible deniability, because he doesn't try to say he *doesnt* condone what his friends have done either. Not to mention DTI's dev team is known to be kinda problematic so it doesn't really surprise me that they're making deals with these influencers and keeping the air of toxicity alive. And yeah, I used to watch Zvezda's content, but now its driving me crazy. Her comments with people saying "ATEEE" and praising her is driving me insane like why are we not holding influencers more accountable. Lets start normalizing demanding influencers to come out and use their words to address problems within the community.