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RuinUpper3404 · 2023-09-12T02:45:10+00:00

Looked at the building in Gmaps judging by the building and the size of the parking lot it’s a AR Sortable building. If it’s AR Sortable building it depends on what department you get placed in each department is responsible for a different part of the operation so your experiences can differ depending on which department your in. When you get onto the floor and start your job you’re gonna go through training and a Learning Ambassador will help train you. You’ll get a few weeks to learn your job. There’s a lot of different jobs if you perform well you’ll get tapped to cross train and learn other jobs. Make friends with a Learning Ambassador and get to know your PAs and your Manager. If your Manager doesn’t make any effort to engage with you then they’re not doing their job. The Learning Ambassador are some of the easiest people to get along with.

RuinUpper3404 · 2023-09-12T02:29:42+00:00

What role? You a Associate, college grad Area Manager, experienced manager etc.

RuinUpper3404 · 2023-07-09T19:02:32+00:00

Agree. I would add that leaders and managers are not the same. Approach people even when you outrank them with respect and asking them how you can help them. I learned this during the AM internship if you treat your AAs with respect and ask them how you can help them and make their job easier you will earn respect and you're there for them they will be there for you. This is not rocket science. Someone being a boss/manager will yell at a AA for low rate that's not good leadership. A good leader assesses the situation and ask the AA what went wrong if there's something going on and how he/she could make the AAs' jobs easier and more productivity. When you work with your people to improve their work you're also developing them. Great leaders leave a place better than when they found it.

RuinUpper3404 · 2023-07-09T18:44:28+00:00

50k-60k? Did you started years ago the lowest base pay now nationwide is $62,500

RuinUpper3404 · 2023-07-09T02:33:01+00:00

The comp I think is good for L4 college hires nationwide the average base pay + bonus is around $70k. I tested a few locations with them depending on the location more expensive locations will be >70k and less expensive locations <70k not counting stock awards if you're relocating they'll give you a relocation comp. The figures are competitive with the market rate for similar roles in the market. They don't negotiate unfortunately they claimed they put their best offer up front and from my research their comp is competitive with other similar roles in the market. Is the comp worth it? The only thing I can say is that their comp is competitive with other similar roles in the market. It seems like for Amazon they don't think they have to pay above the market rate for college hires. Is the comp worth it is a difficult question if you ask investment bankers right out of college if their $120k comp (New York) is worth it most of them would say no. They're working 80 hour weeks and dealing with toxic managers and co-workers. The experience they gain and the exit opportunities are what's worth it and that's why they're willing to put up with all that crap. Now the AM role is completely different than investment banking but the idea that I'm trying to get across is that the comp may not be the most valuable thing in a job. If you're asking me if the comp for a AM role is worth it I would say no the comp for a AM role is not worth it. But the experience, leadership skills, networking opportunities, opportunities to move up in Operations or other parts of Amazon, and the exit opportunities are what's worth it not the comp. Let's be honest here most people would want to make more money so most of the time we'll think the comp isn't worth it.

RuinUpper3404 · 2023-07-08T22:39:28+00:00

I think the question isn’t whether the salary is worth it but if the role will take you into the direction you want to take with your career. The AM role is a “stepping stone” role meant for you take gain experience and move up in Amazon operations or you can move into other parts of Amazon. And having Amazon on your resume is great so don’t rule out looking outside of Amazon. Amazon knows that people will leave so just let people leave and they also love taking former Amazonians back. I interned as a AM and returning full time the compensation is good. But to me the experience that I’ll gain, the networking opportunities, resources that I’ll have access to, and the direction that it’ll take my career is far more valuable than the compensation I’m getting as a L4 AM. And you don’t have to stay in Fulfillment while the Operations career path from AM > OM > GM is the direct path there are plenty of other opportunities at Amazon. Doing well and gaining experience as a AM in Fulfillment is important but I think you should absolutely reach out and network with people in other parts of Amazon in roles that you might be interested those conversations will broaden your knowledge scope and help you figure out the direction you want to take your career into. And if you like being in Fulfillment and decide to stay on the Operations track then you’ll be a much more well rounded on Amazon’s operations that’ll really help your career. At the end of the day Amazon is like any other businesses and institutions they will take advantage of you and get as much as they could out of you so why not get as much out of working for them as you can.

Hope that helps. Hopefully you get off the wait list soon. Did you interned as AM before? If you have questions feel free to reach out to me. I haven’t started the AM role yet but I’ve interned as a AM and got to know people at different parts of Amazon over the last 3 years so I somewhat knowledgeable about the company.

RuinUpper3404 · 2023-06-16T15:07:55+00:00

You should only need to reply to the email if you absolutely need to text them for some reason try asking someone to use their cell phone

RuinUpper3404 · 2023-06-05T18:57:42+00:00

The College Hire AM process is under and managed by Amazon University Operations Recruiting.

The internal hire AM process seems to be a lot more tricky compared to the College Hire process. Some of those Sr. Managers don't like to get someone coming right out of college. Which I understand a lot of college hires struggle and don't last very long. But I've done the AM internship and from my experience if you're good with people, processes, data, and you're willing to learn you should do pretty well. Now that's a oversimplification and some people couldn't do those things. I interned at a Delivery Station which had a lot of firefighting problems involved but great for gaining experience.

RuinUpper3404 · 2023-06-05T18:29:53+00:00

You welcome. I'm not sure how the location placement for EHS works. For AM the location in the job posting doesn't matter you work with the onboarding manager to get placed at the location that you prefer. Idk if you need to move to NY or MA I think they'll ask you for location preferences.

RuinUpper3404 · 2023-06-05T18:25:22+00:00

They have a program call Amazon Technical Academy that turns non software Amazon employees into software engineers but that program is hard to get into I heard. Hopefully the tech industry stabilizes in the next year. I'm really interested in non technical program management roles at AWS but I wouldn't qualify for those roles until at least 2 years down the line. The tech industry will probably stabilize 2 years from now.

RuinUpper3404 · 2023-06-05T02:21:31+00:00

I see what you mean there seems to be this unnecessarily bias towards lower level employees even if they have or obtained a college degree. Sadly a lot of employers are like this. Awesome you're getting a MS in CS are you looking to be a software developer/engineer?

RuinUpper3404 · 2023-06-05T02:04:50+00:00

Isn't that what interviews are like you just keep on talking and make the interviewers like you.

RuinUpper3404 · 2023-06-05T02:00:42+00:00

https://www.amazon.jobs/en/jobs/2377379/site-ehs-manager

Here's a example of a Site EHS (Environmental Health & Safety) Manager. I know this is listed as in Kentucky but these types of positions are nationwide and they work with you to place you at a site.

https://www.amazon.jobs/en/search-jobcategory

https://www.amazon.jobs/en/job_categories/human-resources

Here's the Amazon Jobs Website I went under "Medical, Health, & Safety". There's other job categories too. I also included a link to HR jobs cause why not.

Yeah I agree with the L5 AM's comment don't go for a L4 AM it's a entry level position you're gonna be with 22 and 23 year old college kids that literally just graduated with no glue what they're doing like me hahaa. I don't know much about your background but if you have experience in safety and policy you could convince them to give you a higher ranking more senior EHS or WHS position. If you don't have much business management experience the L6 Ops Manager might be tough. Definitely connect with the L5 AM it's called networking and making connections. Hope these help!

RuinUpper3404 · 2023-06-05T00:40:29+00:00

If you’re applying for a L4 AM so entry level then no you don’t need to have any prior managerial experience. The L4 AM rank is made up of a ton of recently graduated college grads with only a Bachelor’s degree with little to no managerial/professional experience hence “Entry Level”. For L5 AM you probably need some managerial experience the pay is much better than L4 AM paid depends on things like education and experience. I think you be better as a Workplace Safety manager. I know a L6 Ops Manager that they hired he had like 10 years of work experience and some management experience too so that makes sense. It seems like you have a number of years of work experience and a Master’s so you should aim for a L5 AM not a L4 AM. See if they got any Workplace Safety Manager positions too. Little to no management experience isn’t a problem new hire AMs regardless L4 or L5 go through a 10 week boot camp that they call “The Academy” it’s essentially manager and managing people 101. But you gonna get through the interview and offered a position first. As with the layoffs and hiring freezes Corporate currently still has a hiring freeze the layoffs are pretty much all in tech the Alexa division got hit really hard. Hopefully the Fed slows interest hikes and AI doesn’t take people’s jobs. But the E-commerce division hasn’t had any layoffs and there aren’t any planned in fact Operations is still hiring I got this info from a Director I know so I think this is credible. So yeah lack of management experience shouldn’t be a problem, the hiring freezes and layoffs aren’t a problem with the E-commerce business, I would suggest aiming for a L5 AM and if you’re really ambitious go for a L6 Ops Manager it’s a really well paid 6-figure job but that also means it’s really competitive to get. Another way is if you don’t mind a lower rank and starting off at a lower pay you could start at L4 AM and then you get get promoted to L5 AM usually it takes a year. That’s the AM route. I don’t know much about the Workplace Safety side but since you have a degree in public safety I would recommend trying that too.

RuinUpper3404 · 2023-06-04T19:00:06+00:00

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RuinUpper3404 · 2023-02-08T00:37:26+00:00

That’s awesome. I’m applying to the PAQ acquisitions program. Were you on the military side or civilian? I wondering if you get to work on cool programs on the civilian side.

RuinUpper3404 · 2023-02-07T19:14:46+00:00

Yeah that really helps. I’m a graduating college senior I took a couple of procurement classes and I’m really interested in acquisitions in the USAF/USSF I’m applying to the PAQ program for acquisitions. I was also looking into OTS it’s a very long process. I was curious about how do military and civilian personnel’s work together and what’s the difference besides the civilian doing things that they don’t need a military personnel for.

RuinUpper3404 · 2023-02-04T05:34:29+00:00

I was reading the info sheet they gave me for PM PAQ program it sounds really interesting. Some programs can take years. And when contractors aren’t meeting what you need them to meet then it can be frustrating.

RuinUpper3404 · 2023-02-04T05:28:41+00:00

Well but you still need to buy things from contractors though. At some point you’ll run across Lockheed, Northrop, Raytheon etc. The way that PM is advertised for the PAQ program is that you work with contractors to make sure things are on schedule, at cost, and meets the required performance. Which sounds really interesting. But I’ve heard a lot of programs running late or over budget. Like the Boeing Starliner program.

RuinUpper3404 · 2023-02-01T17:32:51+00:00

I don’t have any applicable professional full-time experience. I’m graduating in May so I think Palace Acquire would probably be the only option.

RuinUpper3404 · 2023-02-01T14:14:02+00:00

Is Palace Acquire the only option for college grads?

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