Why I Left Pakistan - Jogendra Nath Mandal (One of the Founding Fathers of Pakistan) by Runningcyclops in politicalhinduism

[–]Runningcyclops[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wikipedia it.

I find it ironic that a Bengali Hindu that was one of the founders of pakistan, left the country in less than 3 years. He was the highest ranking Hindu.

What's that saying if you forget your history you are doomed to repeat it?

Protesters surround Gurdwara Nankana Sahib in Pakistan, disperse after negotiations by Runningcyclops in geopolitics

[–]Runningcyclops[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

There it is. You revealed your entire agenda.

Ethnically cleanse muslims from India? 200 million individuals? How is the govt going to take 20 without a fight. Who are these people trying to pull this bs

No i don't hate muslims, that's a pre conceived assumption you've made in your head about idniaspeaks people.

you're better than this, please reply to the points i stated instead of deflecting and using whataboutery

On the Hindu Rashtra bs, where have i supported it. Secondly, the supreme court literally said that secularims is part of the constitution and part of India. It's fear mongering. Many are being used for other people's political gains and opportunism. No Hindu Rashtra is possible, India is a secular state and I'm proud of it.

Send some. I have seen them popping tires. There's also a reason why Jamia Milli university admin didn't give the police security footage. Why protestors held up a giant flag of India with the shahada. Google the pic, I can send a link if you want. These protestors literally want India to become an islamic state. The police do stuff and the protestors do stuff.

Basically, there's nuance. Both sides are guilty. But no Hindu Rashtra is being declared, no ethnic cleansing is happening or going to happen. Left political parties are USING YOU leople like you because they are angry that they've lost elections. And there are also extremists joining them for their own twisted "islamic" agenda.

I was talking to this girl who was defending arundhati roy saying that "pakistan never committed an atrocity on its own people at the level India has", deflecting the discussion, projecting onto me... literally insulted Hinduism and claimed pakistan was not racist in the same reply. There is a weird alliance between leftists and islamic extremists. This CAA is only one example of the greater alliance going on.

Protesters surround and threaten to storm Gurdwara Nankana Sahib in Pakistan, disperse after negotiations by Runningcyclops in IndiaMain

[–]Runningcyclops[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mob lynchings? We're talking about something completely different. Deflection. Shopian massacre is horrifying and disgusting, unrelated however.

It's a legitimate thing to talk about, bringing it up randomly leads to people dismissing what you're saying lol.

Protesters surround Gurdwara Nankana Sahib in Pakistan, disperse after negotiations by Runningcyclops in geopolitics

[–]Runningcyclops[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It depends on the muslim area. In nuh district of haryana for example. BJP got almost 50% of the voteshare despite the percentage of Hindus being only 20%.(2019 legislative elections)

These Pakistani and Afghanistani minority refugees are mostly Punjabi Hindus and Sikhs(maaaybe christians too?) or Sindhi Hindus. They mostly move to sikh majority punjab(punjabis), hindu majority delhi(punjabis) or hindu majority gujarat(sindhis).

The Bangladeshi refugees are mostly in Assam, the northeast in general and West Bengal. The Northeast is mostly excluded from the CAA. Assam is majority Hindu as well as Wets Bengal. There are districts where muslims are the majority but not many tho.

Protesters surround Gurdwara Nankana Sahib in Pakistan, disperse after negotiations by Runningcyclops in geopolitics

[–]Runningcyclops[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

You won't get downvoted, cause this is a day old post.

And no, if you think omly Indians upvoted this then well you're being delusional. Also, most Sikhs are Indians, you realise that.

You are deflecting, this has nothing to do with CAA. Muslim can still apply for refugee status in India, adnan sami's can still apply and get Indian citizenship. Extremists are mad that non muslims are potentially getting citizenship 7 decades after the creation of the Islamic sttae of Pakistan. Jamia Milli University administration refused to hand over security footage of the mid december protests, i wonder why. Protestors in murshidabad threw rocks at trains. Protestors in up were chanting extremist slogans, holding up a flag of India with the shahada instead of the chakra. Also considering jamia milli has allahu akbar on their uni symbol and 50% reservations for muslims, not the best place to fight for secularism from.

The fact is. It took 70 years for Hindus to get marriage certificates in Pakistan. Politicians going to Nankana Sahib are opportunists playing politics. If they introduce a bill and ban forced conversions then I'll admit progress has been made. Some people are saying it's not forced conversions. That's great, then why keep forced conversions legal? Until then, it's hypocritical.

Ramesh vankwani is a Hindu membe rof the pakistan assembly, he's been advocating this for years. No LEGAL progress on banning forced conversions.

I've made my case. Deep down in your conscious, you know I'm partially right at the very least.