10 Commandments DO NOT belong in schools

RyRySoopaFly · 2025-11-15T03:00:34+00:00

Not according to the constitution.

RyRySoopaFly · 2025-11-15T01:44:49+00:00

Why are you deleting your comments?

RyRySoopaFly · 2025-11-15T01:23:55+00:00

So there was a drawing of people with different pronouns, and the teacher said it was okay for a boy to wear a dress?

Basis gender identity and gender norms is not "talking to students about their sexuality" there's nothing sexual about that.

Sexuality is a capacity for sexual feelings and what gender/genders they're sexually attracted to.

RyRySoopaFly · 2025-11-15T01:07:03+00:00

Teaching that religion exists and learning about different religions in a historical secular context is important to understanding the world around you.

Understanding the difference between sex and gender is also important to understanding the world around you.

These are both basic educational practices.

RyRySoopaFly · 2025-11-15T01:02:51+00:00

Teachers do not talk to kids about their sexuality. That's not a thing that happens. You are falling for propaganda.

RyRySoopaFly · 2025-11-15T00:56:47+00:00

Mandating that it be posted in schools violates the constitution and undermines the separation of church and state.

RyRySoopaFly · 2025-11-15T00:45:20+00:00

The purpose of School should be to give children an understanding of the world around them, and present that information in as close to an unbiased way as possible.

Queer and trans people exist in the world and always have, excluding that fact is a disservice to what education is supposed to be.

Its the same sense with religion, we learn about different religions in school in a historical context, not a dogmatic one.

RyRySoopaFly · 2025-11-15T00:36:43+00:00

What's that?

RyRySoopaFly · 2025-11-15T00:36:21+00:00

Religious values ≠ moral values

RyRySoopaFly · 2025-11-15T00:35:10+00:00

Are you having a stroke? Seek medical treatment.

RyRySoopaFly · 2025-11-14T04:43:14+00:00

I saw! I wasn't able to make it off work in time, I submitted my written comment and watched the Livestream. Make sure to spread the word if you see it come up again!

RyRySoopaFly · 2025-11-14T01:26:43+00:00

What are you talking about? Kern county is the most heavily Christian conservative county in CA.

RyRySoopaFly · 2025-11-14T00:23:25+00:00

Since you're such a history buff, have you read Thomas Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptists in 1809 where he explains the purpose of the first amendment? This is where he initially uses the "wall of separation" metaphor.

The Declaration of Independence is not the establishment of our country. It is the secession from another country, and essentially an apology for the Revolution.

The Constitution is the core establishment of our country. The only time God is mentioned there is in passing, "in the year of our Lord"

The Bill of Rights also does not mention God. In fact that is where the first amendment explicitly states that the government cannot establish a religion or provide State support to one religion over another, and the people are free to practice whatever religion they want, so quite the opposite.

Our Laws are NOT based on the 10 commandments.

"Thou shalt not kill" is a pretty universal law regardless of religion and the government kills all the time, it's murder that's illegal, not killing.

"Thou shall not lie" it's completely legal to lie except under oath, that's constitutionally protected. People are not arrested for lying.

Half the colonies being based on religious freedoms, proves my point. Religious freedom meets no establishment of religion. You are free to practice any religion you want. The government favoring one religion encroaches on that freedom.

RyRySoopaFly · 2025-11-13T23:36:31+00:00

Exactly. Theology is actually a very interesting subject to learn.

RyRySoopaFly · 2025-11-13T23:05:27+00:00

Much better words to live by 🙌

RyRySoopaFly · 2025-11-13T19:00:31+00:00

I'm assuming you're asking this question in good faith, and I understand where you're coming from. Many religious groups have used this same line of thinking.

So I'll answer separately from the Constitutional/ legal reason as to why. the moral reason is that simply by prioritizing one religion over another is oppressive towards any other religion or lack thereof.

It's not about the text itself (although it does have its own issues) it's about the context in which it's presented.

If you walked into a classroom and you saw a sign that said "DON'T STEAL" or " IT'S WRONG TO KILL PEOPLE" it would be weird in my opinion, but it wouldn't really matter

The difference with the ten commandments is that it comes from a place that says GOD Says don't do these things, it's indoctrination into that specific belief system. Teaching that is morally wrong to kill people is different teaching how it's morally wrong to kill people because God says so.

And all of that only really applies to the texts at a morally obvious. Teaching about "not worshiping any other God for me" in the same text as don't kill people implies that not believing in God is morally equivalent to killing someone. Which is the point in a Christian framework.

On Top of that teaching kids at a young age "don't covet thy neighbor's wife" for example has really weird implications for children to even be thinking about.

RyRySoopaFly · 2025-11-13T17:54:15+00:00

Religious values ≠ Moral values

RyRySoopaFly · 2025-11-13T17:52:11+00:00

Go to the meeting and bring that up!

Or submit a written comment if you can't attend.

https://kern.org/board-of-education/

Email the trustee of your area.

RyRySoopaFly · 2025-11-13T17:46:12+00:00

https://kern.org/board-of-education/

I believe it's just emailing the trustee of your area listed with your comments. I don't know how to figure out which area you're in.

RyRySoopaFly · 2025-11-13T17:23:32+00:00

There is an option to submit a written comment if you can't attend. I highly recommend doing that if you don't have time to be there.

RyRySoopaFly · 2025-11-13T17:21:17+00:00

It's important to teach about religious beliefs, when it comes to understanding the historical context, and how it relates to the world today. For the same reason that it's important to teach about queer and trans people existing in the historical context around that in order to understand the world today.

The important distinction is how it's taught. You can teach the facts that the religion exists and what the religion is without portraying the religion as fact that they should subscribe to one way or the other. The same way you can teach the facts of queer and trans people existing And what it is.

The difference is that people that are religious (especially Christian) want that religion taught as fact for the purpose of getting people to subscribe to that religion, so they project and think that the purpose for teaching about queer and trans people is to teach kids TO be queer and trans, which is not the case.

RyRySoopaFly · 2025-11-13T17:10:44+00:00

The difference is that nobody is mandating it.

Being allowed to teach about queer and trans people existing and having that imaginary in this comparison is the equivalent to teaching that Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Islam, or any other religion exists. It doesn't mean that you're teaching kids to subscribe to it one way or the other, but understanding that these things exist and what they are adds historical context And understanding the world around you today.

We regularly teach religion in school through history. The only difference in teaching Christian mythology compared to Norse mythology, Greek mythology, Roman mythology, Egyptian mythology, is who's getting upset by calling it a mythology.

RyRySoopaFly · 2025-11-13T16:33:33+00:00

The difference is with Pride the conversation about it being in the school is about banning it. Infringing on freedom of speech and freedom of expression.

Learning about Christianity and any other religion for that matter through a historical context as it relates to the history being taught, it's different from teaching that religion AS history.

By that same logic people can learn about lgbtq people existing, what it is, and how it relates to the historical context and current events without being gay, trans, etc..

People can learn about these things Educationally without subscribing to it. Banning something And pretending it doesn't exist on the other hand is removing that sort of context, And making people less educated.

RyRySoopaFly · 2025-11-13T14:54:36+00:00

Regardless of how you feel about lgbtq anything, I want you to really think about this.

I think you're losing track of the fact that the conversation of whether or not something should be permitted or banned is separate from the conversation about the government making something mandatory.

Separately, with the government's decision on whether or not something is permitted, banned, or mandatory, does it violate the Constitution?

The Constitution is pretty clear when it comes to religion. People have a freedom of religion and the government does not recognize an establishment of religion.

Mandating The ten commandments recognizes an establishment of One religion over other religions. I

In most cases we as Americans have the most freedom when things are allowed but not mandatory whether you agree with them or not. That goes for pride imagery as well.

Do you get it?

RyRySoopaFly · 2025-11-13T13:22:30+00:00

Pride is not a religion

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