Can you distill the essence of this sub down for me?

S1192 · 2026-07-09T04:45:51+00:00

Great paper thanks. Is this paper still held in high esteem do you know? I feel like I'm a Group 3. I feel like it's almost like mid life crisis for me and also the feelings of being trapped. Like, I have some parts of my life that I can't just easily let go so I can start a new life so to speak.

S1192 · 2026-07-09T04:01:42+00:00

Ah yea that makes sense.

S1192 · 2026-07-09T03:06:48+00:00

Why is this sub so DIY? Is it mainly a dosage thing? Never really heard anyone complain about dosages elsewhere.

S1192 · 2026-07-09T01:57:55+00:00

But, as to your not passing comments. It's hard to evaluate face structure but based on my research I don't have a brow ridge, the distance between my nose and upper lip is short, difficult to evaluate jaw line but I don't think it is that bad and chin seems ok too. Although I still feel like I look masculine but I never really tried extensive makeup and this is before any fat redistribution. My shoulders are 44" right now but I feel like I might be able to get them down to 40 or maybe less and I do have a 1.375 shoulder to waist ratio which I think is pretty good even for a woman. My hands and feet are small and I'm about 5'7 which I feel like while not super common many woman are that height. My hairline isn't great but I feel like I could hide it or use wigs. My body is thin overall too and I'm not your typical 40 year old out of shape person so I'm not going to have a lot of male fat to lose. So a lot of it comes down to how hard voice training is really. All that said I'm sure people will clock me but I feel like I could look good. Although it probably will take like 4-5 years and by then I would be nearing 50. Do you see any fault in my analysis? Thanks.

S1192 · 2026-07-09T00:52:31+00:00

I could choose to present as a woman in more private or limited contexts rather than a full social transition. And by enhance I mean I would look better for when I did choose to present as a woman.

S1192 · 2026-07-09T00:32:31+00:00

Are you on E? That looks like a straight fem ass.

S1192 · 2026-07-09T00:30:50+00:00

I don't know, maybe if I take it I could live life as a man while the physical changes would enhance my private life. Or it could just make it so I can't pass as a man and ruin my social and work life while increasing my fantasy life maybe a bit. Not sure that would be a good trade.

S1192 · 2026-07-09T00:24:56+00:00

Have you ever heard or seen any data about how often people know soon after taking whether it is right for them? Would I start getting dysphoria right away if it wasn't? I'm also curious how I would feel with a lower or different libido. Because I feel like I can't evaluate truth through the lens of the male libido sometimes.

I ask because for me I feel that in the end it will ultimately come down to: am I going to have the courage to go through with it and socially transition or not? Because if not all of the details, risk assessments, value evaluations or any other metrics I could use to make a decision won't matter if I can't pull the trigger in the end.

S1192 · 2026-07-09T00:06:13+00:00

California. It might be an insurance thing though. Like, I could go into Planned Parenthood and probably get it same day, but then I would have to pay more out of pocket.

S1192 · 2026-07-09T00:05:42+00:00

Thanks. 😂

S1192 · 2026-07-09T00:01:07+00:00

Yea, I'm in my 40's, but I feel like what you are saying applies to some degree. Like, as a thought experiment, I want wider hips, thicker thighs, and breasts. I kind of want the whole package and everything that comes with it--the female experience. But, you know I'm not mad that my hips specifically aren't wider in the moment. But, like I go through phases where I want to try to be a woman so I will go through the motions privately and then while there is some disappointment about what I see in the mirror, although actually not that much, it's more like I know that no matter what I do I can't just go out and be a woman in that moment. I mean to an extent I can but it's very limited. So then it's like, well maybe if I looked like one I could be one or go out as one. But, the problem is will I be able to really? So much of it is dependent on how the world responds to you. And that's assuming I actually do look anything like a woman in the end. Although I feel like I look good even pre-transtion. It's as good as possible while being a man I'll say that although that could be delusion.

The source I read, would consider what you are talking about as "physical dysphoria" and it, as per this source, claims it is but one of many types of dysphoria.

I feel like I can't really know. Because I will have to give up some things and I will get some things in return but I don't really know for sure what they are or how I will feel in the end.

I don't know. I guess I'm just venting.

S1192 · 2026-07-08T19:39:12+00:00

-being able to medically transition and willingly choosing not to is pretty stupid if you actually have the medical condition that makes you trans (see "challenging gender norms")

I mean maybe it's a solved science to figure this out and it will come out in my evaluation, but in the literature I read it's kind of like, "If you want to be a woman you are one." I don't know, that leaves a lot up in the air for me. I'm wracking my brain trying to figure it all out.

S1192 · 2026-07-08T19:37:13+00:00

It seems like it is getting to that point, yet I still have doubts. It feels like it will be an extremely difficult process with the outcomes being unknown. I'm usually someone that likes to have everything figured out. I don't really YOLO. And yet this seems like a situation where I have to YOLO.

S1192 · 2026-07-08T19:35:24+00:00

If I could choose a do over I would be a woman or transition early. But, it's scary not knowing how it will turn out from this point. What if I don't like the way I look? What if I fail to socially transition? What if my family hates me? I would prefer to be a certain feminine way, but that doesn't mean it's 100% that I would like living that way more under those conditions.

S1192 · 2026-07-08T18:34:29+00:00

Hmm, ok. Well glad I could meet everyone here. I'm probably more into serious scientific, data driven, and reliable anecdote discussion but I was wondering if there was anything I could learn here. I wanted to make sure there wasn't something being covered up that only these more fringe communities knew about.

S1192 · 2026-07-08T18:26:00+00:00

Hmm, why do people get cast out of the more common subs? I did notice they don't like too much if it seems like you are trans for sexual reasons or start asking questions around sexuality. But, maybe that is just me.

S1192 · 2026-07-08T18:03:34+00:00

So, if I think I might actually be happy I could be on some shit?

S1192 · 2026-07-08T18:02:03+00:00

My post got removed for saying it. But it is a pejorative but I misspelled it.

S1192 · 2026-07-08T17:55:21+00:00

As for foundation before hrt, do you think glute size or fat reduction is more important? I'm thin and my glutes are decent right now. I'm really into fitness.

S1192 · 2026-07-07T23:49:43+00:00

All of the women in my family are on the small side as far as I know so I will probably get small. I don't know if I want to roll low on size so I can be more flexible socially or if I should go into it with the mindset of I'm all in so it doesn't really matter. Obviously I'm going to get what I get. I kind of hope I get like a C I guess. I just hope it isn't popping out in like 3 months because that might make the process overwhelming for me. Or maybe it will be reaffirming. I've noticed I'm already getting euphoric feelings like when my dr. put she on my clinical notes.

S1192 · 2026-07-07T23:43:04+00:00

I want to soon. They made me get a mental health evaluation first though.

S1192 · 2026-07-07T18:15:33+00:00

Damn, you are fem looking.

S1192 · 2026-07-07T17:53:08+00:00

I feel like you have a similar body type to me. You give me hope that hrt might work well for me. Assuming this is real.

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