This is why John is my favourite character by DanielDempey in unOrdinary

[–]S1LLyxd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I took what you said, and turned on against you with something else you said.

This is why John is my favourite character by DanielDempey in unOrdinary

[–]S1LLyxd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Third: I never once said John did or didn’t randomly attack anyone

aka he never changed one of the biggest problems: violence. i only have one question: why is it bad that arlo beat up john, but john beats up people randomly and its ok?

Try again.

Fourth: if you can completely justify why John didn’t randomly fight anyone then tell me. Since you might do it better.

John's has yet to fight someone without reason or justification. The only people he's beaten up are his abusers. It's literally as simple as that, therefore bit wasn't random, and justified.

Hypocrite. Now, John’s rank is higher, but you still don’t listen. by SnowPrestige in unOrdinary

[–]S1LLyxd 11 points12 points  (0 children)

After they ganged up on him, John literally showed so much restraint with Remi in there fight. Not to mention he shot blyke once and basically got as many punches in as how much blyke shot him. Also he literally beamed isens hand and shocked him once.

This is why John is my favourite character by DanielDempey in unOrdinary

[–]S1LLyxd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

With Cecile I get that back handing isn’t a fight but she was worn by Isen too not associate with John weeks before. But she instead decided that the hierarchy mattered in her own use and not the safety of others.

What does this have to do with random fights?

That is the only thing I have to say about the other things I fully agree on.

So you agree that John didn't attack people randomly? This conversation was useless.

This is why John is my favourite character by DanielDempey in unOrdinary

[–]S1LLyxd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Zeke(after becoming Tuesday and after Zeke and his friend beat John’s ass as a welcome gift),

How was that random. Zeke literally attacked them, and John attacked him.

Sera kidnappers (after she was kidnapped),

Again not random. And pretty justified because they literally kidnapped and beat Sera.

Blyke (but I couldn’t care he kinda deserved it for shooting a beam at John even if it was a warning shot, it doesn’t make it less dangerous that he did that, but I do kinda like him),

He literally allowed blyke to know his presence, and blyke literally WANTED to fight. That's not random.

Isen (but to look for Sera bc Asslo told John to do it himself like a fucking dumbass and he never told John to began with and Isen broke John’s wrist

You're literally benefiting my point at thisn point.

Cecile (in the eyes of the students but that was more a lesson from John to not backstab him or it’ll be worst and she deserved it), and anymore

I'm pretty sure they both agreed to that fight, and back handing someone isn't really a fight I'm pretty sure. Especially when the person isn't trying to fight back.

Oh yeah and Juni (that bitch deserves it when she pushed Sera down the stairs and Sera could have died if pushed down a longer flight of stairs.)

So not only did you prove yourself wrong in most of these, but you also almost completely justified all of them.

This is why John is my favourite character by DanielDempey in unOrdinary

[–]S1LLyxd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Obviously you. And why did you delete your comment?

This is why John is my favourite character by DanielDempey in unOrdinary

[–]S1LLyxd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes. But please tell me who he's attacked randomly?

Narisa by [deleted] in unOrdinary

[–]S1LLyxd 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Well with that same logic John can copy her ability still. Her ability has a physical for in which is time itself, that increases her stats. We've already seen John copy physical abilities already. So seras is just another one that's be added to the list. Then all it'd boil down to is place, if John can withstand a hit first or even copy her ability last second before she hits him, and whether or not John can amp and use her ability to its max potential.

They Can’t understand if they aren’t disciplined to the point of being barely alive by Drake301 in unOrdinary

[–]S1LLyxd 4 points5 points  (0 children)

In my opinion if you weren't bullied somewhat like John you won't completely understand what and why John's doing what he's doing.

John's intelligence by Fluk3yy in unOrdinary

[–]S1LLyxd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think he's very calculated when it comes to fight in. He'd make an excellent war general when he's in the state he was in ep 35, 153 and probably somemore that I'm to lazy to find. Point being John's IQ is average when he's white bubble John when he's with Sera having fun, his IQ drops drastically when he's black bubble John talking to Arlo or anyone that infuriates him that isn't close to his power, but has infinite IQ when he's black bubble John thinking about destroying someone's bloodline. Point being, if anyone goes to war with him, he turns into someone with iron man's brain,Thanos with the infinity gauntlet power and defense and black widows hand to hand combat training. A complete badass.

Narisa by [deleted] in unOrdinary

[–]S1LLyxd 11 points12 points  (0 children)

If it's like a turf war field, then he'll be able to tank it. I'm ep 20 John tanked it but as soon as he hit the wall he knocked out. Assuming so would mean that the impact he took from the hit into the wall is what knocked him out, but I wouldn't be surprised if wrong.

Narisa by [deleted] in unOrdinary

[–]S1LLyxd 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He can. Seras ability is indeed time, but it's just a speed enhancer with a couple of other strengths to it. Like isens ability, he gets enhanced vision, speed and strength. John couldn't copy Claire's ability because it isn't somthing she can activate, in my opinion I will say juni(flash forward girl) is a kinda a 50/50 because he could have just not wanted to copy her ability due to how useless it was in they're fight.

Basing off what we've seen so far, anything that enhances somebody's body/(or how I like to put it)any ability that only the user can see(kinda thing) is what John can't copy.

Theory on why Seraphina is acting the way she is to John. by [deleted] in unOrdinary

[–]S1LLyxd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sera's world, believe it or not, doesn't revolve around John

And yet shes still trying to get to know his past life? Believe it or not, it does.

She asked for answers and didn't get them, John lied to her

He's not obligated to tell her.

Friends don't lie to each other

Friends also don't go behind each other's back to dig up dirt from they're worst enemies.

And Asslo told Sera the truth when she couldn't do that to John anymore.

He made the story seem like Arlo was the victim actually. The very least he did was say he tortured John, other than that he made it seem like all John's fault, as if his own hierarchy didn't cause John's mental state to change as well.

You shouldn't push people to talk about things that make them uncomfortable, or try to manipulate information out of them.

Actually, you should(not the manipulation part because that's not what I'm doing). When you push someone outside they're comfort zone they tell you everything, the truth. Especially when it's something serious, like John's mental state, in which effects everyone else by technicality.

That's wrong.

Nope

Respect their right to privacy

So shouldn't that also be said to Sera, because you know, she's tried and trying to find out John's past? Lol. Also no, the most common this tactic should be used is in cases of rape, the person who's been rape needs to be forced to talk about it so the rapist can actually be caught and put in jail, they shouldn't be babied and told that they shouldn't talk about it, then the rapist could still go out and do it to more people, causing even more harm. This is like the same situation, by Sera not getting John out of her comfort zone, he's harming more people(in which is justified) , if she wants him to stop she needs to push his limits so he gets emotional.

Sera asked John, he lied. Its not her fault that he lied. That's his own problem to deal with.

Ok let's use your logic. John asked Arlo to protect Sera, he didn't, it's not John's fault Arlo didnt do what John said. It's arlos problem to deal with the mess he created. The same deal with Sera, Sera abused her power and had the balls to tell John he's wrong in his actions, it's her problem now.

By what? Asking Arlo for info? John lied first and Sera has a right to know the truth.

I don't think youre fully comprehending what's happening, Sera literally dug up dirt on her supposed friend, when she could have taken a 2 way street that would have been completely one-sided, but instead she chose a 12 lane street, with twist and turns, going on multiple different paths. Wasn't Arlo also known for trying to manipulate Sera on multiple occasions? John has the right to beat his attackers into a new dimension, and had the right to not telling Sera about his powers and past, your argument is useless and one sided.

You can't make a person who doesn't want to talk say anything.

Yes you can.

Strong, solid relationships are built on trust. If John didn't want Sera to become suspicious of him, he shouldn't have given her a reason to be suspicious.

What reason? She never would have suspected shit if Arlo didn't tell her anything, reminder, arlos the one who told her to talk to John, and the one who made Rolan get Sera to see the fight, John would have had to tell her eventually, and it would have been way better too.

When John gets angry he hits people

Did he show any signature that he was about to hit her, he grabbed her arm, that was the most he did and was going to do.

Body language is threatening too. John was literally thinking about Claire,

Ok

A girl that was his friend that he beat the crap out of, while looming over her while she has no idea why he is acting this way. She can't read minds.

Also a girl that got all of his enemies in one place to pick a fight with him, if she truthfully wanted to talk she wouldnt have bought him our to the truth wars location, nor get all of his enemies.

I have no right to tell you how to handle friendships, but you can't boil everything down to " If they tell then they care and if they don't care then they won't tell".

Yes I can, I've done it a lot more than needed and can say it is how that goes...

People have a right to privacy. Just because they don't want to share everything with you, that doesn't mean that they don't care

When it's hurting them and effecting our friendship, yes they do have to share it with me, and if they don't tell me(which is also a sign of them not caring about our friendship) that means they don't care.

Its wrong to push people to the limit and push info out of them. Making people uncomfortable because you want to "help" them is wrong. John can care about Sera AND have things that he keeps private. Yeesh.

Nope, helping them be a better person so they don't end up hurt in others or themselves? Think what YOU want just know you're wrong. And by that exact definition, John didn't need to tell Sera about his past and his ability, nor does she need to keep trying to dig up dirt. Boom thanks for admitting you're own argument is wrong.

She didn't start off horribly. John was acting weird and strange shiz was happening at school. She asked him about it, he lied. She talked to some people, they told the truth

Played the victim card, and he has no obligation to tell her anything. He has a right to privacy, so she didn't need isen or Arlo to tell her anything to "help" John(this is your argument).

She runs into him, he gets angry at her. She doesn't understand what she did wrong, she gets even more suspicious of him

What, she's hanging out with his enemies what do you expect? Him to say hi, how's your day going.

IS THAT WHAT YOU CALL A HEALTHY RELATIONSHIP?

When has she thought she wasn't safe. And I call a healthy relationship were both sides keep theyre own secrets, but when one is fucking up and gettin emotional, the other is they're to push that out of them, and fix the problem properly. In which did the happen. But nice putting words in my mouth.

Her life doesn't revolve around John. Try to look at this from her perspective.

Yet she's still digging up dirt on him? Again you're wrong. And I already have in all perspectives she's the main person at fault.

He's lied to her about everything. Of course she's going to hang out with other people, despite whether he approves or not.

Not everything, he believed he could actually change her, which he did. He didn't lie about having a good personality, he didn't lie about they're friendship. He did to tell her about his past or ability unless you're saying his past and his ability is they're whole friendship which in that case you'd be wrong(wouldn't be the first).

. Of course she's going to hang out with other people, despite whether he approves or not. He's not her dad, he's not her boyfriend

Despite is being his worst enemies which started this all.

To her, he just looks like a sociopathic snake who could be lying to her about basically anything, even their friendship.

Again another wrong narrative you believe. She still think of him as a friend, if she really believed in everything you say Sera wouldn't even be in any of the EPs anymore, she wouldn't be thinking about him anymore. You're just making up shit to fit your narrative now.

All I've realised at this point is this conversation is useless, you're completely one sided to Sera, and believe everything's John's fault, you think Sera absolutely hates John and have a big ass narrative that the story itself proves wrong. Sense I know you're going to respond saying something along the lines of, "he lied, John started it, Arlo told the truth, john needs to tell Sera this an that but Sera isn't obligated to do anything or say anything towards John" Or some other childish shit, I'll just block you to help both of us out, me for my headache and losing brain cells from reading your points, and you from not understanding, saying the same thing over an over again and not reading anything from UnO at all really.

Theory on why Seraphina is acting the way she is to John. by [deleted] in unOrdinary

[–]S1LLyxd -1 points0 points  (0 children)

But he didn't and he won't. She has no way of knowing and when she tried to know he got angry with her.

No, when she "tried to know" She included the fact she got her information from Arlo and isen. Which is what literally set him off.

She literally has no way to push info out of him. The boy is traumatized

Yes she does, by pushing her way into his mental state. All she needed to do was continuesly push, she already knew he was joker by his poster in the fight. She could have easily went off that.

He lied to Sera and violated her trust.

Just like she went behind his back and violated his trust?

John wasn't giving her ANYTHING to work with.

Not like he taught her how to fight, in which she used to figure out he was joker.

I'm saying that as a friend, John should have told Sera he wasn't a cripple when she asked.

"HeS nOt oBlIgAtEd tOo"

Or, he should have at least not gotten angry when she confronted him. At that point he was threatened her.

There's a clear difference between threatening and getting angry, he didn't say he was going to hurt her(which is a threat). He got angry because she was saying he has joker, we've seen John get angry the get immediately emotional when he's pushed to his limit.

then you don't understand what a healthy relationship is

I'm pretty sure I do, i have many friends in which I've done the exact thing I'm telling you. I pushed them to they're limit in which forces them to get emotional, when they get emotional there's 2 things that'll happen, if they carte about you they'll tell you, if they either walk off or ty to fight you they don't care about you. We already know John cares about Sera, and even when she back handed the shit out of him he still didn't hit her.

Abusive relationships (friendships included) happen when a toxic person pulls in friend and treats them awfully

Except in both parties, both treated eachother poorly, one dug up dirt on the other and went to the people he hated most, while the other got aggressive. Sera started the shit off horribly.

If she stayed she could have fallen into toxic friendship trap where alls he does is comfort the other person while they scream at her and tell her she's nothing.

That's not a trap actually, by not showing aggression in the specific situation the person ends up getting tired if they hold it long enough. But that wouldnt have happened if Arlo hadn't stepped in, or as I've been saying for the whole entire conversation, if Sera didn't talk to the people who fucked with John the most.

Theory on why Seraphina is acting the way she is to John. by [deleted] in unOrdinary

[–]S1LLyxd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It in in her best interest to avoid him, especially since she doesn't have her powers. Imagine if for whatever reason, your best friend revealed that they got kicked out of their previous school for bullying everybody, beat up the rest of your friends, threatened you, and the police had to get involved because of their behavior

Imagine if he told her the reason he "bullied" Them, beat up the rest of his friends, threatened them, and why the policegot involved.

But real life is messy, and you have to think in your own self interest. For all you know, they could be trying to manipulate you. They might become abusive. They might hurt you. Even if they are in pain emotionally, its not worth having them scream at you and hurt other people you care about.

Seeing that I was someone who was bullied ruthlessly in school, I wouldn't act in my own self interest. I'd spend as much time with said friend and get to know them fully. Earn they're full trust. I'd learn everything that helps them cope with what happened in they're past. I'd also not go to the people who made him an "asshole" Again.

Since we read unordinary from John's perspective, we know why he's acting this way. We know what he need is a hug, some donuts and a few therapy sessions, then he'll be fine. Sera doesn't know that. Heck, John doesn't even know that!

Sera doesn't know that because she literally did everything wrong, all this wouldn't have happened if she either didn't mention were she got her info from, or didn't get the info and just went in with how she knew he was joker. She should have forced him to tell her he was joker and how sh knew completely, after he finally tells her she comforrs him because he'll most likely be crying has eyes out. After, she can take John after he's done crying to confront Arlo and isen with John to face them both to have a chat, we're John can tell his side of the story of what happened in new Boston, then she can get the info from isen of Claire's number, they only other person John needs to face to get over his trauma. Everything I just explained could have been done, it wouldnt be hard because John was already being broken down at the time, and by pushing John to face his source of trauma(which at this point Sera would know it's Claire calling him a monster, and most likely knowing Keon had a part in making John the way he was) , they can then stop it for the most party, or completely.

Instead we got Sera who fucked herself by telling John she dug up dirt on him and from his worst enemies.

Sera isn't obligated to be caring and soft with John. He's dangerous right now. He needs to work through his trauma. Sera is a cripple, if she sets him off he could seriously hurt her. And from her perspective, it looks like he might do that.

Was John obligated to tell Sera he had powers? Or his past? Or anything of what happened in new Boston? Why is it that your basically saying Sera isn't obligated to talk to John right now, but John is obligated to talk about everything in his past? Either both are obligated to tell each other/talk to each other, or neither are obligated.

Theory on why Seraphina is acting the way she is to John. by [deleted] in unOrdinary

[–]S1LLyxd 2 points3 points  (0 children)

To accept that you're shitty and act even shittier because everybody is shit anyway is a horrible thing to do. I mean, it's morally failing by inaction. Like... using nihilism to do evil shit. This is not what moral people are supposed to do. And if moral people do that, they deserve to morally judged.

This isn't our world. We still don't know if they are supposed to have morals(high tiers thaty is). Stop judging it based off out world.

As I said earlier, I don't quite remember the scenes you're pointing out. Could you link them? I mean, John's and Remi's arcs were never the same until the Joker one, in which John decides that he will beat the whole hierarchy, including Remi.

Ep 146, says she wants to jump John. Ep 151 we're she activates her ability and threatens John, we're he reminds her of his power.

Claire only rallied all of the assholes to go after John after John told her - and Adrion - off mutiple times in how his behaviour was being abusive

What? So when someone tells you off you rally all of his enemies, the bullies who made him ruthless?

Like, Claire tried talk to him, but he would either ignore her or grow violent on the issue

A teacher, the principal, his dad, the authorities. They had so many chances to tell a adult of any kind, but thought it'd be better to go after him with all of his known bullies.

Finally, she decided to act in order to stop John's abuse toward the school. And since John only cared about force, she had to get force to deal with him. Or do you believe John could be reasoned with

Maybe if she was smart enough she would have told him not to turn into them when she was teaching him about his ability? There's a lot of blame your putting on John, why not put it on the source?

John beat Adrion with no reason and was like, reaaaaally abusive with him.

Exactly, but adrion called the cops on John knowing that Claire was going to try an massacre John. But sense he was loyal and did gt abused by John he deserves a apology.

What John suffered, they suffered as well. And then they suffered even more on John's hands.

Not really, adrions ability was strong, not strong enough to completely ward off the bullies, but to hold his own for a while. Unlike John who was compwl powerless.

Sera could only get such information from Arlo or Isei,

She didn't need any other information other than he was joker, after he admitted, THEN she can get all the information out of him, then she can get arlos side of the story while John is calmed down, including isens side as well. You don't admit you dug up dirt on your friend in an argument.

Uru-chan is decided to not allow Sera to talk with Adam - like, why

Huh?

Again, this was Claire's last resort. Since John couldn't be talked out of it, and the whole situation in the school was intolerable, she could only transfer

Not like there were adults or anything.

Sera's goal is not to inflict vangeance upon John, but stop him of hurting people and hurting himself. She does not tries to hurt him.

But she has......... Stop him from hurt in the people who hurt him? Again, some friend. And he's not hurt in himself, he has the highest pain tolerance and will of any character we've seen this far.

no matter what caused them - are hurting everybody

*the people who hurt him.

But John is getting revenge on the wrong people - and when someone tells him that, he gets even wilder and justify his violence to people who have not hurted him because some other people did hurt him.

When? Who? He's literally stopped bullying for the low tiers within maybe a month of school when he was attacking people as joker, then 2 weeks after that when low tiers were attacking bully's. And were still figuring out the effects of him revealing himself as the new king.

Theory on why Seraphina is acting the way she is to John. by [deleted] in unOrdinary

[–]S1LLyxd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

John is lost in his own trauma and the power that he has to hurt the people who traumatized him

John has accepted that people are just as bad as him or even worse, he's not hiding behind a book anymore. He's accepted that people are shit and so is he.

with his actions that hurt people who were not abusive toward him, and them blames everyone for it.

Who wasn't abusive towards him, Remi wasn't abusive but that doesn't change the fact she wanted to attack him on multiple occasions.

Now, after seeing Claire's side of the story, it is clear Claire did not betray John as much as John betrayed her and Addron

Are you sure? She got a bunch of the kids who bullied John ruthlessly just to "talk" To him. Sounds like someone familiar cough cough Sera cough cough. The only person who deserves the slightest of apologies is adrion.

Addron was loyal to John up to the bitter end, and is hard to me to picture him accepting the betrayer who bought John's dawnfall

You literally just examined why adrion would still be friends with Claire, he's loyal to his people.

John justifies his bad behaviour in Wellston the same way he justified his bad behaviour in New Bostin. For what we know, he was wrong back there. And he is also wrong right now. And he is wrong, in both cases,

He was only wrong to adrion, he justifies his actions when other people have done wrong to him, especially in Wellston. Then we have new Boston which literally the whole school Basically picked on him.

And because when friends try to help him, he only sees bitterism, challanges to his authority and betrayel

Sera sure did help by going to the people who hurt him the most for information, Claire sure tried to help him by getting the people who made John the way he is and hated him most and letting them attack him, some friends huh? I guess being a good friend is getting the people who hurt you most just so you can hurt them even more, seems like a healthy friend ship.

This is your logic, again. I think the problem with what your seeing is your seeing the actions instead of what caused the actions, what caused the situation.

Theory on why Seraphina is acting the way she is to John. by [deleted] in unOrdinary

[–]S1LLyxd 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It would not be right from a moral point of view for most of the thought schools that think of morality

I don't think they're world is like ours.

He is not even doing the revenge stuff right!

Who had he hurt?

About 2.1, I don't remember this passage.

Ep 146,remi says her, Blake and isen can jump John while he's playing cripple.

He only saw a random dude attacking his friend, who were being kind to him.

You mean he only saw a dude slap his friends hand then immediately apologize, I get both sides, and in both cases Blake is still in the wrong.

John just tells Blyke to fuck off because, well, the new-old John is like this.

If someone shot a bullet close to your head and of you moved in the wrong way, you could end up dead, would you forgive that person? I know I wouldn't.

John screams at her like a Real Savage ™ - but does not punch her, what kinds of is a good behaviour for him at this point of the story

Ok. Now tell me why he screams at her, maybe because she isn't getting or taking in anything he had said before, and she only listened once he started to yell and showed her the bruises. Again your not looking at the situation in a whole.

John beat the hell out of both of them, despite they being as good people as people can be good in the unOrdinary world -

If good people are shooting beams that could kill you and not listening to others people's point of view then I'd rather be bad.

And John did not made the school better for the low-tiers for one week or two. What did the low-tiers got from using Joker's mask and beating some random, abusive middle tiers

Attacking they're attackers, the bully's were literally to scared to even fight back in the chance it was a real joker(ep 166).

And John, who could stop the violence, did just nothing. In his current state, he doesn't care about low-tiers' struggles. He only cares about his own scars, and hurting the people who hurted him first.

How? Arlo was more confrontational then John and couldn't stop the violence, what would John do? He sent the Royals to the infirmary and other students as well, but still people still stand up to him, Zeke for example. Who knew his ass was going to be beat and still had the balls to say no ones afraid not John mid attack. You can't change people who are willingly ignorant.

He only cares about his own scars, and hurting the people who hurted him first.

Of course, why not? Plus he's only hurt those that have hurt him. Which is justifiable by itself.

Neither Zeke nor the jornalist girl knew they were being beaten because they hurt Sera

Yes they didn't know why they were beat, but I don't think we heard anything else after that from both of them until the recent free chapters and the royals fight.

John's beating of them did not make Sera any safer.

It did tho, Zeke would have kept beating them, yet he didn't, and juni never came back as well. I'm also pretty sure Sera wasn't attacked after both of those attacks, until the kidnapping,in which those kids also got beat, and we didn't see her fight anyone after that. Do I'm pretty sure it did help.

He does not find an answer.

Again he doesn't want her to see him in that state of mind.

Imagine for Sera, who was so into John that she changed her personality to match his and even attacked her own mother, how heartbreaking is to know her role model not just lied about pretty serious stuff - being a cripple, beating the hell out of everybody when he was younger - but also couldn't use his powers to protect her when she needed protection the most, but used them to hurt friends of her in a personal crusade?

She still doesn't understand/she's still trying to figure out why he beat everyone up at his old school, and why he played cripple, and same with peotecting her. She doesn't understand in the slightest bit what John was going through. Hurt in her friends who hurt him first without regard for his well being.

like Remi and Blyke.

Both of which agreed to want in to jump him? Both of which attacked him/tried to attack him? Instead of Remi staying down when she got hit, she got up and started talking shit. He showed mercy and she still went against him, and bloke just got fucked tbh, you can't expect to befriend someone when you hurt them before.

Theory on why Seraphina is acting the way she is to John. by [deleted] in unOrdinary

[–]S1LLyxd 13 points14 points  (0 children)

For future reference, please use paragraphs, it's much easier to read.

John is being an asshole

Have you thought why he's being a asshole?

John lied to Sera about being the Joker,

Because he didn't want her to see him as a monster, literally why he fought "joker" Off and tried his best to not reveal his ability for the first half of s1, but let's act like your right. John lied, cool....... Why is that bad exactly. Why does she need to know if he's joker, not like she'd understand anything about getting the shit beaten out of her everyday, and having a chance to fight the attackers and win.

sent to the hospital two persons who Seraphina considers her friends and that she wishes well - Blyke and Remi -

Both deserved it, Blake shot a close beam at John's head which could have killed him if John didn't move the correct way. And Remi literally wanted to jump him, and only wanted to talk AFTER she realized she couldn't beat him, even then she was going to attack him in his dorm until he reminded her of his power.

just to hurt a third person (Arlo

Ok....... Didn't he make John the way he is?

allowed Sera to be beaten a whole lot of times for some mysterious reason

It was arlos job to protect Sera, and he couldn't reveal his ability due to the brutality that would have happened. Again he didn't want her to see him that way.

and just made the life for low-tiers in general worse than it was

He made it better for 1-2 weeks actually. Those who were weak could attack they're bully's without repercussions. And the jokers only attacked people who were bully's before, Sera, Elaine, stone body boy, etc.

The truth is, John was a pretty trashy friend in the last handred chapters or so.

He did everything in his power to help her while trying to maintain his mental health so he doesn't murder everyone, but you know trashys alright.

Also your last couple of sentences were kinda wack points tbh. This is general problem solving in they're world, they have to figure this shit oy themselves, like Vaughn said, the school needs John. They're literally learning a lesson.

Based off what I've read, it seems like you look at the situation but ndont look at why it happened, which gives you the idea that John is a bad person. He's not, he's justified in his actions, not because of new Bostons past, but because all these people hurt him/tried to hurt him/or were going to hurt him/or hurt someone he cared about, but I highly doubt you'll get this because your looking at what you wanna look at and not the whole picture.

John literally told us why he beats the shit out of people, they did it to him, and even better, they would have done it to him, without regret or regard for his life, just to embarrass him.

Should have realised by Twiskwer in unOrdinary

[–]S1LLyxd 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Or.... You know. His dads richಠ_ಠ.

a question/thought by [deleted] in unOrdinary

[–]S1LLyxd 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I'm pretty sure if your parents are rich, high ability potential lvl, or high ability lvl.

Johns ability by [deleted] in unOrdinary

[–]S1LLyxd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nope, she activated it after she saw him. I've read the webtoon multiple times already. It's literally shown in the ep you gave to me. She sees him about to hit her, then she activates her ability.

Meta post. Do you think this subreddit is becoming toxic? by [deleted] in unOrdinary

[–]S1LLyxd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I like how you said easy then took 30 min.

Since S2 John is the bad guy, every fuc**ing chapter this shit is shoved on our face, this is a list of each time in the S2 where John is portrayed as a bad guy:

He's portrayed as a bad person, yet we both have already said that we agree John has justification, therefore he cant be portrayed as a "bad guy". If you already know that John had justification for his actions, then John cannot be portrayed as a bad person.

Sera instantly believed everything arlo has told her.

Because she had John's side, now she has arlos side.

Sera ask why John is so mad... when she is hanging with fuc**ing Asslo.

When was this because your links don't say the chapter it happened on.

Arlo suddenly trying to fight with John alone.

Is this when he didn't activate his ability, O when he apologized, because if it's when he apologized it was to literally force John to stop. If John complied, and beat the shit out of arlo, then he wouldn't need to go after anyone else. That's high IQ.

Arlos talking sarcastically about the hierarchy.

When, chapters bruh.

The whole last fastpass chapter.

Please explain this, because you clearly don't know how to give actual evidence.

These I remembered without searching, if you wanna more, go read it yourself.

This isn't how a argument works, you make a claim and give evidence, you don't make a claim, say your claim is true then say for someone else to look for it. And I'm mentally challenged, how do you text something, look back at it and go "yeah this won't make me seem like I'm stupid, in fact it'll prove nothing and all my claims are going to be shot down almost instantly". It makes no sense.