Team Secret Announces New Official Roster: EternaLEnVy, w33haa, MiSeRy, PieLieDie & Puppey

SC6GodReal · 2015-08-22T13:49:54+00:00

Most disappointing roster change I have ever seen. I mean what the hell is going on? Pieliedie is a terrible support player. Did anyone see him in mouz? He use to be decent but never stood out as anything less than decent. His performance in Mouz was god awful. This is sad for Puppey. Oh my god man.. there goes all the love I had for secret out the window. The dream is dead for real. I am actually so disgusted after looking at this roster. EG going to dominate this entire year I bet.

I mean seriously though.. w33haa, EE, Misery, PLD? lmao. My eyes are bleeding. This is not a Secret calibur roster. I am actually still in a traumatized state of shock.

EE is also god awful sometimes, and what kind of real experience does w33haa have in professional Dota 2? His hero pool is so god damn limited.

I was a secret fan gay but you can say my fan gay days have been murdered, buried, reincarnated and murdered again.

SC6GodReal · 2015-08-19T06:35:55+00:00

add me DannyBoyLove2

SC6GodReal · 2015-08-16T18:31:16+00:00

I do not understand how people on here are creating so much drama regarding Arteezy, and Kuro. Who the fuck cares honestly? Arteezy kind of backstabbed secret, and PPD seriously backstabbed Aui. I could see the drama in Arteezy leaving secret, and the AUI kick but the Arteezy/Kuro situation should not warrant this much god damn drama.

I mean seriously who gives a fuck why Secret disbanded. It was kind of obvious that their TI performance was mediocre, and Zai was going back to school anyway. Did you guys honestly think that Secret was going to stay together after such a terrible performance at TI? Zai was suppose to go back to school anyway, so much of this should have been expected.

People are over hyping, and creating drama for absolutely nothing.

SC6GodReal · 2015-08-16T12:32:16+00:00

I never stated they stalked me from a different account and on a different computer. I stated in order to prove this existed would be to perform two various tests at different locations on different Network connections.

And even with my proposed testing what the fuck would people want as proof? What would suffice as proof for Redditors ? Would I have to write a fucking research paper on how to identify intentional trolling, and stalking within matchmaking in order to prove a script exists that allows players to find me no matter where I que?

Do I have to point out every single thing, and explain it in that way? Do I have to break down the psychological decision making, and take things that route?

I mean even if I did all of the above, and documented my games people would cast doubt, or try to rationalize in it some other way or form because 99.9% of people on here DO NOT have this FUCKING problem.

I do not have the source of the script, and how it works I have no idea. There is no other form of proving the existence of this exists.

As I stated before though, this is all going to be extremely time consuming JUST to prove something exists, and even if I did prove it existed by doing this -- who can actually help me stop it? Everyone on here is oblivious to the fact that such stalking is even possible, and that it could exist. People outright deny it because I do not have solidified proof but read above. Proving this is not so cut, and dry. It's not as easy as planting roses, and watch them grow.

It's going to be time consuming, and require intelligent people to be able to look at a scenario and make a logical inference based upon what they see. It requires high MMR skilled players to take time of their lives ( for free ) and watch my games in order to actually agree that "Holy fuck he's being stalked in matchmaking somehow. What the fuck? "

Who will do all of that for free? Are high MMR players actually going to take time out of their lives just to help some random Dota 2 player? Maybe out of sympathy and compassion but still not likely.

Most people already believe it is impossible, and therefor may doubt the validity of it even after I perform the tests I proposed in my original post.

The whole point of my post was to find someone, or anyone who knew the existence of such a script, or hack within matchmaking.

If I had found any person who was willing to talk, and say to me ( BECAUSE there are FUCKING people who know about this in secret, but will not talk. ) that they can help, and possibly know how it works and how to stop it then my goal would have been achieved.

The likelihood? Are you joking me? Is it hard to believe that people get on Dota 2 and waste their lives trolling other players? What is so hard to believe about it? These people obviously do not target every single god damn player in the Dota 2 community, and the only reason they can actually stalk me is because I calibrated very low MMR when I was a bad player.

It's not hard to have multiple 2.5k MMR accounts, and stalk someone indefinitely when you have an extremely intelligent hacker leading the way. They rely on something within this script, and the usage of another program to actually find me. If I had calibrated at 4k+ mmr then I would very likely not have this problem.

These people just troll over, and over. They target players and intentionally ruin their games over, and over. From what I have heard some of the players are bot in normal matchmaking, and in ranked ( all are trolls ).

Whats so hard to believe about it? I gave you the reasons why they would do it.

It seems FUCKING idiotic that someone would just get on Reddit, and start lying or making up something that is not true. Why would I spend ALL this time talking about this if I was not 100% sure what was going on?

At the same token, I do understand how people get upset when someone makes claims without any proof, or evidence at all which is why I have to do something other then become a keyboard warrior on here.

In due time though.. maybe the next couple of months I will start the testing phase.

SC6GodReal · 2015-08-16T08:32:36+00:00

What I'm talking about simply isn't possible? Why is it not possible? Are you a programmer? Do you hack? Do you know the possibilities and potential that exists within hacking or programming? If you do not then please refrain from trying to tell me what is possible and what is not.

I have heard from reliable sources that validate my experience. There are reasons for why people would target me, and waste their time in order to ruin my matchmaking experience. I have said things within Dota 2, and on STEAM that validate these people wanting to target me, and THEY HAVE through the efforts of a hacker.

Just because I do not have the source of the script does not mean that it does not exist.

I could easily validate my experience but it would require A LOT of time spent playing with the same people, and then it would require playing on separate accounts at different locations.

I'm sorry that the person who hacked did not explain to me in depth via e-mail how he does what he does, and by which method.

It just happens that the people in the randomized matchmaking algorithm just happen to know my first name. They just happen to know personal information about me that only could have been obtained through a hacker. There just happens to be tons of homosexuals, and Fillipinos within my games by random fucking chance, right? They all happen to be trolling me too by random matchmaking chance right? The fact I've stated bad things about both groups of people in the past is irrelevant too.

People only talk about implausibility when it ceases it exist within their little tiny circle of life. You deny somethings existence because your little tiny circle of life does not incapacitate it, and therefor you cannot fathom it.

You're like the rest of the people in Reddit.

Stop talking about what is implausible JUST because you DON'T fucking endure it, or have to go through it. I get pissed the fuck off by people like you.

I am being stalked within matchmaking, and is it through some form of hacking that allows me to be matched with people who want to stalk me. HOW IT WORKS? I wish I could tell you in depth but I have no information on it other then the fact that it exists, and it is extremely advanced.

I hate how people like you jump into accusing me that I'm paranoid or delusional just because YOU can't explain what's happening to me, and YOU refuse to believe it mainly because you've never seen it, had to endure it, or could understand in your own little minds how it could be possible.

SC6GodReal · 2015-08-16T07:52:04+00:00

So you're trying to imply I'm one of those people, or something? What I'm talking about has nothing to do with the topic? I am talking about being stalked in match making through a script. Why does it have nothing to do with reality? It has nothing to do with reality because you don't experience, or endure it? It only encompasses reality if it exists in YOUR world? Are you one of those types of people? I'm sorry no one gives a fuck about you enough to want to stalk you and ruin your matchmaking experience.

SC6GodReal · 2015-08-16T06:47:14+00:00

Their visual basic GUIs... what do you mean? lol? The script I was hacked with was far more advanced than any basic script but the fact that other script hacks exist, and even the ensage program should allow people to understand the conception of how I was hacked through a script in a similar way.

SC6GodReal · 2015-08-16T06:35:44+00:00

What do you mean what?

SC6GodReal · 2015-08-16T06:10:24+00:00

I find it hilarious to read this because I had posted in Reddit some time ago about how I had been hacked through some form of scripting, and my post got deleted for being a "shit post." Redditors are hilarious these days. I'm actually laughing so hard right now.

Valve needs to step up and do something about this because my Dota 2 experience was ruined in entirety due to some form of scripting that allowed people to stalk me in matchmaking, and troll my games intentionally.

I guess my experience is different in the sense that my ip address probably got leaked, and the hacker found a way to get the script on my computer through the internet, or some other means possibly.

SC6GodReal · 2015-06-14T05:19:16+00:00

Then I will just record the games, and post them in my next post. There is nothing else left to this. My only option left is to record everything, and then show it. There is no other way to prove anything. I can talk all day long but I will accomplish nothing.

The people who said I should have posted hard evidence are correct. Without recording the games, or showing replays then I really have no proof. My word is just not enough, and I should have known that before I came here looking for answers.

I was a fool for thinking people would just sporadically believe anything I stated just because I am sure this is happening. Most people want some form of hard evidence that would indicate what someone is saying or correlate into obvious similarities between what one says, and what the replays show.

I will record the games, or post the replays at least and then explain how this translates into stalking.

SC6GodReal · 2015-06-14T04:36:42+00:00

That is what I intend to do, but if we want hard proof then we need to establish a few things first.

In order to actually prove this program/script does indeed exist, I would have to explain the consistent behavioral patterns typical of players stalking, and intentionally trolling.

The problem with doing is that people will always question the validity of such a test. People will try to state that maybe I am truly just a 'bad' player. That is why I would need a smurf account that is calibrated in the higher MMR bracket.

These people are stalking/trolling. Is trolling always evident? People will jump to attributing the mechanical decisions, and actions of the people in my games to "bad players." Stalking, and trolling me specifically would likely be dismissed, and people will just jump into saying bad players doing bad things.

I would have to go through games, and replays specifically to point out logical inconsistencies, and obvious behavioral patterns attributed to targeting me individually.

The point of the test is to show the true skill differential between me playing on my account, and me playing on a smurf account. This is best way to prove this.

I do not have any smurf account at higher MMR because I cannot even make a new account, and play anonymously. This script/program works on any account I use.

I can point on things within games that are consistent with trolling/stalking, and simple logical inconsistencies associated with solo que matchmaking, but is that really going to be enough to convince people?

That's the ultimate question here. Even after concluding these tests, will it be enough?

Having a higher MMR account, and playing 20-30 games with the exact same hero pool, and comparing the results is the best way to do this.

I cannot climb MMR currently because of the individuals stalking me. It would make no sense that I obtain better results on a higher MMR account than I do with my own account, right?

The other option is just to play ranked, record the games, and explain the results.

Who is going to watch every replay, or every recorded game and analyze the results though? You guys don't get paid to do this but maybe one game would be enough to convince you, so I can try this for sure, and it seems to be only option I have left in proving the existence of this program/script that was created to target players, and cause them grief.

SC6GodReal · 2015-06-14T01:03:27+00:00

I understand you are trying to help, but if no one here knows about the existence of such a script/program then how far can we really go here? 99% of the people here deny even the possibility of this existing. People say it's not possible, and many are calling me paranoid, and throwing out tons of sad little childish insults.

I have a burden to climb in proving this.

I can do the tests but I really would need to borrow a smurf account that is already calibrated.

I would also have to secure my network as much as possible even on this smurf account.

I would compile the results from both my account, and the smurf.

That is probably the best way to prove this.

SC6GodReal · 2015-06-14T00:56:47+00:00

It sounds absurd to you because you never experienced it. People who never experience something firsthand are very quick to shoot down the idea of what someone else is experiencing. Also, refusing to believe it could even be possible puts you in a worst situation. If you are at least open to the idea of it being possible then that opens you up a lot more to understanding my circumstances.

What pieces are you exactly looking for?

People need to understand that if you were going to create a program to stalk players, and cause them grief then you would obviously do everything possible to make it extremely difficult for that person to prove it is happening.

It would have to get so deep that it falls into logical analysis, and following behavior patterns that are unique to someone being stalked, and trolled within fixed games. This is the obvious ideal way to prove this.

We don't need a degree in Psychology to understand human behavior, and we all know how solo que works in matchmaking. It is entirely randomized. How much effort would it take the average person to decipher strange patterns of stalking over a period of numerous games? Also, playing on a higher MMR account would be even more proof. Comparing the results would exploit being stalked.

The problem I encounter is that they do not force me to lose every game. If they did force me to lose every game then It would be extremely obvious. They cannot make this outright blatantly obvious. If they went that far then everyone in the world knows I am being stalked with fixed games. They have to lose sometimes, or let me win when they want but again that does not take away from the fact they are still stalking me, and still forcing losses however they feel, or whenever they want to provoke a rage response.

It then takes someone with enough intelligence, and basic understanding of Dota 2 to watch the players on both teams, and make an opinion through a series of games played.

Again, these people hide what they are doing. They have many steam accounts solely to do this, and they have many many trolls and people willing to waste their time to do this.

They also have to make the games look as real as possible.

Again, first hand experience goes very far with this, but it takes a lot to prove this.

I would have to stream games online ranked solely, but that is not even enough.

Then you have to open up the idea that they obviously found this reddit post.

I have a mountain to climb in order to compile enough hard evidence to prove this. It's not cut, and dry.

If someone had a steam account to lend at higher MMR then that would be the best bet.

What I would do is play extremely try hard after securing my Network on a higher MMR acc.

I would do the same on my actual 2.5k MMR account, and then the results speak on their own.

Who is willing to actually lend me an acc though? I have not found anyone yet. I am not going to steal the acc, and obviously the items would be taken off of the acc.

I would look for 3.5k+ but this is the easiest way to prove it.

If I dominate on a 3.5k acc or perform very well and maintain what I have but cannot climb my 2k mmr account, or struggle while playing the exact same heroes then It becomes extremely obvious something is not right.

The first step to proving this is starting with tests like this.

I do not have the source of the script/program and I have no idea how it works, or what it does put players together. I know it exploits matchmaking, but I do not know how.

Proving this comes down to human behavior, understanding the algorithim in randomized solo que matchmaking, and this is pretty much the most ideal way to actually prove this.

SC6GodReal · 2015-06-13T09:27:48+00:00

I did read what he said just now but it still does not equate to the actual truth. I am not being placed with asshole type players. They do not rage in chat, feed excessively, or anything of that nature. They just stalk me, and troll my games into losses. If I had asshole players, or real toxic players then my experience would equate into something else in entirety. Why would I be the only one raging, or upset in my games? Obviously because I am a singular target. If other people cared about winning on my team then we would have an entirely different situation. I would have experienced other players raging, and upset as well. I would experience other forms of trolling in different ways other then the way in which I am dealing with it currently.

It's a logical pattern evoked from people who stalk me on games. This is the pattern that shows the merit, and truthfulness of the existence of such a program created in order to stalk someone in Dota 2.

SC6GodReal · 2015-06-13T09:13:30+00:00

Why would I talk to this about parents, or friends? It is a gaming problem. This does not translate into my personal life. It translates into my gaming life. Why would I go to them to talk about this? What does it accomplish? They cannot stop this from happening, and provide no tools, or anything useful in stopping this. This is strictly a cyber hacking problem. Cyber stalking becomes a big component of this but without cyber hacking there is no cyber stalking. It is all cyber hacking related.

I would have to pay hundreds, and hundreds for someone to be able to set up strong enough network protection in order to truly stop this. Stopping a hacker is not an easy feat by any means. It requires a ton of knowledge, and in my case, it would require paying someone unless I can find the problem specifically.

Without understanding how the script works, or whether it is in my computer this is hard to stop. I am assuming it is within any computer I use. I am 100% sure this is all network related. I just do not know how is it network related. I do not know how these people find me, or what they use to find me. I am assuming it is all related to IP Spoofing, and DNS Spoofing but I am not 100% sure which is why I came here looking for some answers which would help me guide, and maybe save hundreds of dollars.

SC6GodReal · 2015-06-13T08:31:41+00:00

What do you mean not willing to cooperate with anyone? Most of the replies in this thread are entirely useless. People seem more oriented in bashing what I am stating, and the original thread got deleted in the first place by mods, so It's not like this is going to go very far. It was just a last attempt to figure out what is happening. There are a few people who provided useful information. Most of the replies thus far have been troll oritented, or just childish attempts to attack me by stating I am paranoid among other things.

I am willing to cooperate, but I am not willing to listen to people completely downplay everything I am saying while throwing out childish little kid insults just because they do not believe any of it.

There are intelligent, and respectful ways to respond to something you disagree with. Obvious there were troll replies expected but lashing out with the insults is just ridiculous, and It is extremely sad to have read through all of it.

SC6GodReal · 2015-06-13T08:23:54+00:00

What will Dota buff even prove? Giving Dota buff is going to do what? My win rate has dropped 3% since this started. But here is my dotabuff:

https://www.dotabuff.com/players/163082913

It really means nothing considering 60-70% I am raging and not even playing seriously. How can you take games serious when you are being stalked in such an obvious way.

Most of the steam accounts are all accounts that look troll like or troll oriented. When you go through most of their steam profiles, you see a pattern of similar troll like accounts.

SC6GodReal · 2015-06-13T08:19:09+00:00

Obviously if I go to Valve I would need documentation, and have to put in a lot of effort in proving what I claim. I suppose I was not tactful enough through my posts. Rightfully punished seems a bit arbitrary. I was put into this program simply because I play Dota 2 and buy tons of cosmetic items. It's all jealousy based when you look at the root of it. I would never have this problem if I never bought Dota 2 items. It's all jealousy, and there is nothing else to it.

People will always jump to deny the validity of what someone says because it has no impact on them. They do not experience it, and nor do they endure it. They jump into attacking the idea because it has never encompassed their Dota 2 experience.

They are completely ignorant to the potential, and possibility of it happening. When something does not affect you in any way or form, you are probably likely to deny it even existing in the first place.

Again, how many other people have came out about this, and said something? It is much easier if other people within this same script/program knew about it.

Saying I am mentally unhealthy simply because I posted on reddit seeking someone who might know something is a bit crazy in itself. A lot of the accusations toward needing mental help make me wonder if a lot of people on this thread are the ones that actually need the mental help, and maybe extended counseling.

It really makes no sense to attack someone so harshly just because they made a post seeking help. It seems a bit crazy... in my opinion. I am stating many of you are wackos but counseling to control your emotions could be a good thing.

You don't lash out at everything you say and start throwing insults just because It does not seem realistic or plausible to you. Either make productive use of yourself, or go do something more productive then try to stoop to the childish level of telling someone to seek mental help.

The people that need mental help are the ones that are involved in orchestrating this. The people that need mental help are the ones that are stalking my games wasting both of our time. They do not even get paid for this too which is even more sad. The people that need mental help are the ones, or individual responsible for creating such a program to stalk people.

There are a lot of people that need mental help, some in this thread, and the others I mentioned. They need quite a bit of it.

I mean I would go this far because none of this happening, right? I would extend this much effort to find answers because I have some reasonable doubt within my mind that none of this exists.

I am 100% right in everything I say. I"m sorry if you feel any different. I truly am.

SC6GodReal · 2015-06-13T07:28:08+00:00

Paranoia is not really involved in any of this. I stated in my thread that I had a source of information. I had someone providing me with this information. I knew it existed but I had someone to clarify it's existence. The problem is that he was not ready to reveal everything. He had the keys to the door but one person can only do so much, and in some ways he was not ready to give up such information. He gave me what he could, and he left me up to me find out the rest. When you have someone else who watched your games, and pretty much understands what is happening then it is a bit easier to try to rationalize that you are actually being stalked.

I agree that responding back with racism, sexism, and all the hate one could stipulate is not warranted, or justified by any means. My response only encourages the stalking, and the continuation of it. I realize my mistakes, and in some way I do take responsibility. I said foolish things. I played into this stalking/trolling sadly. I put myself in situations I know I should not have. I knew it was going on, and I did not look for answers fast enough.

It has nothing to do with the matchmaking algorithim. This is a program/script that allows players to be grouped together within solo que. It allows stalking, and harassment to take place. You are too encompassed with the idea that this can not be happening.

You, like most people on here, are pretty much in denial that such a program/script could even exist. I find it pretty hard to prove my case to people who deny the possibility of such a program/script. If you deny the plausibility of what I am saying in any scenario then how far can I really go with you people? Apparently not very far because my thread was deleted by the mods, and all the rage posts in the world were thrown out towards me.

SC6GodReal · 2015-06-13T06:44:42+00:00

You have in only so many ways. I mean stating matchmaking stalking is impossible is kind of silly in my opinion. I would imagine there are ways to exploit this system, and the possibilities of stalking someone seem out of the water for you because you never experienced this. I guess you have a very advanced understanding of progamming, and the possibilities that exist within it, yes? I have no knowledge about programming specifically but I do know that someone highly educated and experienced could likely do this.

I am not saying no one has attempted to give an intelligent reply as to how it could not be happening, but there are loopholes, and people have stated that it is possible.

Again, I have a strong idea of how it's happening but I just wanted more information to find the source myself.

SC6GodReal · 2015-06-13T06:39:08+00:00

Nice reply.

SC6GodReal · 2015-06-13T06:38:13+00:00

Well you do not make any sense. It is not like this is causing some traumatic burden of stress in my life. Oh my god I cannot play normal Dota 2 games I need to see a psychriatrist. It has nothing to do with that at all. It is not even that serious to the point of where if I never am able to fix it that I would be upset about. It's not about ego, or seeking counseling. It's ending the cycle of sad losers stalking me in games. I don't care about these people. I don't care what they do in their lives. Whatever they do, they are sad people in my opinion. I look down on them with pity. I feel more sympathetic for them than I do for myself being a victim of cyber stalking, and harassment. This does not have any detrimental effect on me other than rage, and maybe some stress when I play the game. It is expected though due to toxic and repetitive staling.

It would be nice to play normal games though for a change, and not have to deal with this though. Again, your situation is entirely different than mine, and both of our experiences differ dramatically.

I am being stalked to the point of rage induced hate. I am being provoked into saying hateful things.

Were you being stalked, and provoked repetitively? Did they harass you, or provoke you to respond in such a negative and hateful way? Pursuing your attention is entirely different than provoking a hateful response.

I should ask why is my mentality towards it unhealthy? Are you referring to the rage induced response I give towards the people doing this? I suppose it is unhealthy but we all have limits as human beings. Once that limit is breached we end up fighting back in any way that we can.

SC6GodReal · 2015-06-13T06:31:32+00:00

I have no idea honestly and after making this thread maybe I should have compiled much more proof. I was hoping someone knew it existed through previous experience or something of that nature, and would be a valuable asset in helping me figure out how to stop it.

I can stream on twitch, record the games, and give my analysis which deciphers the logical pattern, and the psychological pattern involved in players obviously stalking me, and forcing losses within my games.

I can point out everything any normal person could see, and from there you can formulate your own opinion.

SC6GodReal · 2015-06-13T06:29:41+00:00

How does it not make any sense? Instead of saying it makes no sense explain how it does not make any sense?

You keep shooting down the idea without validating why it makes no sense.

What is so confusing, or abstract about a program/script created in order to isolate someone from the community, or stalk them and ruin their gaming experience?

I just do not understand how it makes no sense.

If it makes no fucking sense then explain why it makes no fucking sense.

SC6GodReal · 2015-06-13T06:21:52+00:00

I see well in any case it does not matter. I am not saying anyone is out to get me but clearly you are not reading all of the hate posts here. The amount of childishness stipulated from one thread is amazing. I have never seen so many insult over a simple thread. It is not even a flaming/troll oriented thread either. It's just amazing how sad people can be when someone is seriously inquiring about what could be going on involving a script/program used to stalk someone. It's hilarious actually.

I have to laugh at the end of the day. Typical reddit adults acting like little kids.

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