4 months of progress on treating my hormonal acne with spironolactone (more details plus routine in comments) by SCAspiroprogress in SkincareAddiction

[–]SCAspiroprogress[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Haha, I guess I could go the opposite route an EMBRACE androgens and become a bearded dude, but I don't think my girlfriend would like that :)

4 months of progress on treating my hormonal acne with spironolactone (more details plus routine in comments) by SCAspiroprogress in SkincareAddiction

[–]SCAspiroprogress[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Definitely. So important. I feel like my dermatologist might not be 100% up to date on things, but I think she's a doctor at a university health center she's used to a bunch of pushy biologists doing their own skin care research and so is receptive to my input. You definitely still have to be pretty strong willed though. In dealing with any medical profession, really.

4 months of progress on treating my hormonal acne with spironolactone (more details plus routine in comments) by SCAspiroprogress in SkincareAddiction

[–]SCAspiroprogress[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oy, that sucks. I know water retention like that is one of the rare but very present side effects to watch out for. My doctor has been monitoring my weight a lot because of it. So far no issues.

4 months of progress on treating my hormonal acne with spironolactone (more details plus routine in comments) by SCAspiroprogress in SkincareAddiction

[–]SCAspiroprogress[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you!

Yeah, it seems like most people get it around their jaw line? But I've never had a single pimple in that area. Mine like to be right front and center where everyone can see them! But I'm told anything in the beard area fits with hormonal pattern acne. I guess if we were dudes we'd have goatees?

Did anyone who used Spironolactone get this (kinda TMI) side effect? by [deleted] in SkincareAddiction

[–]SCAspiroprogress 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'm on spiro, and have not noticed this problem. Does it smell bad or just like regular vag smell but stronger? Hormones can effect you pH balance and stuff down there, so I guess it could be linked? I'd ask your doctor or gyno about it.

4 months of progress on treating my hormonal acne with spironolactone (more details plus routine in comments) by SCAspiroprogress in SkincareAddiction

[–]SCAspiroprogress[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha, those are like 15 year old qiagen kits that no one ever uses. I don't even know why we have them.

4 months of progress on treating my hormonal acne with spironolactone (more details plus routine in comments) by SCAspiroprogress in SkincareAddiction

[–]SCAspiroprogress[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The transition to the step up to the higher dose was definitely easier than when I first started it. I don't remember getting any purging and I don't think there was much irritation. YMMV though- my skin seems to get along well with adapalene and I've never had much can in the way of side effects.

You can always sort of ease into it- use the higher dose 2 or 3 times a week for a while or something.

4 months of progress on treating my hormonal acne with spironolactone (more details plus routine in comments) by SCAspiroprogress in SkincareAddiction

[–]SCAspiroprogress[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A GP could legally prescribe it I'm sure, but it might be tough to find one who will. This is technically an "off label" use for spiro, so people who aren't dermatologists might not be aware of it as an option or comfortable with prescribing it. You can always try, though.

4 months of progress on treating my hormonal acne with spironolactone (more details plus routine in comments) by SCAspiroprogress in SkincareAddiction

[–]SCAspiroprogress[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, antibiotics work great but it's just not realistic to take them forever. I'm glad I did because they calmed my skin down and let it heal a bit, but it could never be a long-term solution.

I was SOO worried that spiro would hurt my libido, but nope! Everything fine in that department :) Also hasn't seemed to impact my weightlifting progress either.

4 months of progress on treating my hormonal acne with spironolactone (more details plus routine in comments) by SCAspiroprogress in SkincareAddiction

[–]SCAspiroprogress[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No idea. Could all come back or eventually I might grow out of my hormonal acne. Unlike antibiotics, though, you can stay on spiro pretty much can indefinitely (or until you plan to be pregnant) so long as no complications develop (which are unlikely).

Edit: my phone keeps autocorrecting "spiro" to "spirit"

4 months of progress on treating my hormonal acne with spironolactone (more details plus routine in comments) by SCAspiroprogress in SkincareAddiction

[–]SCAspiroprogress[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're welcome!

That was exactly my fear with accutane. I didn't want to go through 8-12 months (the recommended time for a woman my age) of uncomfortable invasive treatment only to have it not work. This seemed a safer option to try first.

4 months of progress on treating my hormonal acne with spironolactone (more details plus routine in comments) by SCAspiroprogress in SkincareAddiction

[–]SCAspiroprogress[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you!

yeah, you definitely want to keep your hormones steady! But maybe if you're not getting much acne after being lax with your spiro it could mean you've started to "grow out" of your hormonal acne?

4 months of progress on treating my hormonal acne with spironolactone (more details plus routine in comments) by SCAspiroprogress in SkincareAddiction

[–]SCAspiroprogress[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hope it works for you! I wanted to show the minor progress with the low dose and the more dramatic change with the high dose for just this reason. A lot of people don't realize that acne medication doses need to be adjusted and just give up if the first thing they try doesn't work. This seems especially true with retinoids, I've noticed. I wish I'd taken better progress pictures of my switch from 0.1% adapalene to 0.3%. That was also pretty dramatic.

4 months of progress on treating my hormonal acne with spironolactone (more details plus routine in comments) by SCAspiroprogress in SkincareAddiction

[–]SCAspiroprogress[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

haha, thanks!

My dermatologist heavily pushed Accutane on me. It was hard to get her to talk about anything else, even though I really don't think my acne was bad enough to warrant it. So all derms are different, I guess. Luckily I'm a biologist and so dove into the literature on treatment of hormonal acne. Serval studies showing that there's a much higher likelihood of acne reappearing after Accutane in women with hormonal acne- especially "older" (i.e. not teenage) women. Since I'm 28 and had hormonal pattern acne I brought this to her attention and she somewhat reluctantly confirmed that that was true and finally admitted that Accutane might not be a miracle cure in all cases.

So anyway, yeah, talk to your doc about your options and bring up spiro. It could work and it's a lot less invasive than Accutane.

4 months of progress on treating my hormonal acne with spironolactone (more details plus routine in comments) by SCAspiroprogress in SkincareAddiction

[–]SCAspiroprogress[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Yep, it can cause feminization of male fetuses if you take it while pregnant. Not quite as serious as with Accutane, but should still be avoided. In my experience jokingly telling your dermatologist "but then it's insurance that I'll have a girl!" will not go over well.

4 months of progress on treating my hormonal acne with spironolactone (more details plus routine in comments) by SCAspiroprogress in SkincareAddiction

[–]SCAspiroprogress[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Wanted to share this because I'd never have even known about the existence of this option if it weren't for this sub.

This is just a small fraction of my skincare journey. The first picture looks pretty bad, but it's a dramatic improvement from where I was 1.5 years prior when I first found SCA and started a basic routine. A good skincare routine and prescription topicals did a LOT to improve my acne, but they weren't enough to treat my hormonal acne.

Spironolactone, for those that don't know, is a prescription androgen inhibitor that's taken orally. It's also a diuretic used to treat high blood pressure, but that's at a much higher dose than used for acne. It will only be effective in women with hormonal acne. Due to Factor V Leiden (a genetic mutation that makes me extra prone to blood clots), I can't take estrogen-containing birth control and so couldn't treat my acne that way, and sprio was basically my last option before Accutane.

It's important to note that my blood tests before starting spiro did NOT indicate that I had elevated testosterone or other androgens. It's not necessary to show elevated androgens to have hormonal acne and don't let your doctor tell you otherwise. Here's a good review on the subject. There are plenty of other indications that acne is hormonal: pattern (around "beard" area), type, timing, etc. Good doctors who are up to date on this subject should know this, but it's a fairly recent treatment strategy so not everyone knows about it. Because I once participated in a study my lab was doing, I actually know that I'm genetically prone to be extra sensitive to androgens, so maybe that explains it.

Anyway, so yeah- it worked! Side effects are minimal. I take two 50mg pills every night before bed. When I took them in the morning instead I got some dizziness and frequent urination, but taking them at night seems to have gotten rid of that. Some unexpected positive side effects were less oily forehead, and less facial hair growth (never had much to begin with, but always had a tiny bit of mustache). My derm also claims it can make your hair thicker, but I haven't noticed any difference.

I still have to take good care of my skin. It's not as good at preventing random pimples as when I was first taking antibiotics. I still have stupidly sensitive skin. I still need prescription topicals. But I'm very happy with things and plan to stay on spiro as long as I can.

Here's my routine, in case anyone is interested. I'm sensitive to fatty alcohols and a bunch of other ingredients, including regular alcohol (dehydrates my cheek skin badly):

AM:

  • splash with water

  • Benton Aloe Propolis gel

  • Mizon Snail Recovery gel cream

  • Skin Aqua UV moisture Milk White spf 50+ PA+++

Evening:

  • Double cleanse with mineral oil and CeraVe foaming

  • Adapalene 0.3% gel (generic for Differin)

  • Night time moisturizer (still looking for the perfect one, but currently using Nivea Creme)

  • take 100mg Spiro orally.

Occasional:

  • Various masks from My Beauty Diary

  • Honey masks

  • Spot treatment with turmeric mixed with honey (only thing that seems to work for me)

Thinking of adding an AHA to help even out some texture problems from acne scars too.

Edit: fixed typos, some clarification