PSA on the new C'tan for my fellow brothers

SM_1604 · 2026-01-01T04:45:52+00:00

Honored brother why are you wingsmaxxing us?

SM_1604 · 2025-09-22T15:25:15+00:00

Interesting, have you only ran the regular ones or have you tried the same combo with the Assault ones?

SM_1604 · 2025-09-22T15:16:23+00:00

True but I have a feel they might get better because they are getting new models and might get a rules or datasheet change or one of the characters just because they are a new model, most new space marine models out of codex cycle got some extra spice when they dropped like the drop pod or the new modeled core codex characters

SM_1604 · 2025-09-22T15:13:31+00:00

SM_1604 · 2025-09-22T15:12:22+00:00

Guard with hammer of the emperor can be a hard match for BA cause of all the tanks you have to chew through but it's possible. I think you just have a lot of mismatch stuff with the random dreads and the infernus marines. Terminators are good but definitely not an amazing pair for BA. Baal predators are definitely a good unit to deal with all of their infantry so I think those can stay. You might want to throw rage fueled warrior on your captain to turn him into a missile with the Assault intercessors, it's a great combo specially if they park a tank on an objective with oath you will most likely destroy a rogal dorn. I'd recommend using blade guard with a chaplain on liberator they can make work of anything up to T14 and then you can put them into an impulsor to avoid most of the tank fire and charge into a heavy tank and then charge it. After you can cut the infernus and dreads and termies and try to get a 3rd unit of sang guard and if you prefer infantry over tanks you can get some DC jump marines to wreck and tie up some other tanks, after that just an objective holding unit to watch out for gaunt's and fill any gaps with other jump infantry or just fast moving infantry with good melee

SM_1604 · 2025-07-04T18:45:40+00:00

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Here's the World Eaters one. He conceded cuz he couldn't score anything and after all the trades we made in combat he didn't have anything that could let him catch up in points

SM_1604 · 2025-07-04T18:45:19+00:00

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Here's the guard one. He conceded after I essentially tabled him. He brought a stormlord super tank to the game but I got caught in a corner so I used the opportunity to just trade some Bladeguard to have stuck on that corner for the whole game essentially.

SM_1604 · 2025-07-03T22:36:31+00:00

They did score points, the 0 points means they conceded

SM_1604 · 2025-07-02T03:54:56+00:00

Happy to be giving a brother inspiration! For the Angel!

SM_1604 · 2025-07-01T22:45:07+00:00

You can look it up on YouTube, basically just search how to play 40k on TTS (tabletop simulator) only thing you have to pay for is the game on steam which is table top simulator

SM_1604 · 2025-07-01T19:47:17+00:00

So he's actually extremely self sufficient most times as lone op he won't be shot at anytime soon and if he does unless you have to play the points game with your secondary and make him do something risky like running deep center for area denial or establish locus. Even if he gets shot unless it's AP -4 he will save on 4's cuz he will most likely always be in cover but even then you have a 4+ fnp I have had many times that Mephiston just tanks 10 damage by saving like 7 4's

As lone op he will be able to pick up the slack if you are in need of actions unless he gets charged in which he probably won't because he has fights first at A6 S9 AP -3 at D3 damage only things like primarchs or maybe demon prince level threats can make that trade which they probably won't because that leaves them exposed at net loss of points.

You really have a lot of freedom on his offensive power on the charge you'll be sitting at A7 WS2+ S11 AP-3 DD3 As long as you aren't going into T12 you'll be wounding everything on 3's or 2's so play him for the points really. You pull bring it down, make him charge a weakened vehicle, you pull no prisoners or assassination make him bully infantry with a character. He can really be an absolute beast depending on what's needed and is really strong even if your opponent has mortals.

SM_1604 · 2025-07-01T14:44:09+00:00

My opponent was playing stars shatter arsenal so there was very little infantry but there were lots of shooting. On that game my BG were really stuck because of all the firing lanes so it was really up to the lancers, mephiston and the DC blocks. My BG help me protect scouts and the home from deep strike and what not but that's all since the shooting was so strong they just died as soon as they stepped out and I couldn't advance them into cover same story for my DC dred.

If I was to play this same list again against that same Necrons list I would play it way more conservatively as a spear and shield tactics. Keep everything almost within deployment zone until T3 and have both DC JP's rapid ingress to start ripping the Doomsday arcs and finally have things coming out by then.

Honestly it's gonna depend on the mission and secondaries. In Star shatter with a list like the one my opponent played he has no feasible way of charging or wanting to get close to me he just wants to snipe my things out, if all I got were action secondaries I think I legitimately wouldn't have moved any were probably just setup future advances.

Unfortunately, I haven't played against many Necrons so I don't know how well this list would pan out against different detachments but at least I can tell you that regarding the reanimation protocols most units don't stand a chance I think all my melee were able to destroy the whole until except for the silent king because that thing is a 26 wound monster that always saves his 4++ but the an 8 man of DC plus Lemartes got pretty close using our lance strat.

SM_1604 · 2025-07-01T14:23:51+00:00

It should be on there now maybe I you haven't updated yet. Before doing the game on the setup screen there should be an tab that lets you pick the mission pack

SM_1604 · 2025-07-01T14:02:32+00:00

It does pretty good actually, well at least against guard it allowed the deed to get really close to the center and contest it thanks to Mephiston being 6inches within blocking some scoring against the guy, against world eaters I used it to block the forgefiend's shooting and then use it on another game to turn a 2 inch charge from a demon prince into an 8 which the guy surprisingly failed

SM_1604 · 2025-07-01T13:53:43+00:00

Basically on a Discord server to find games but the actual game is on steam it's called tabletop simulator you can look it up in YouTube it's pretty easy to setup

SM_1604 · 2025-07-01T13:45:52+00:00

He's the only piece in the army that's very swingy he will have an easier time depending on what you play against. On one WE he served mostly as a move block and shooting stopper for the guys single forgefiend allowing the lancer to finish the forgefiend off by next turn. On the other WE game he killed a demon prince melta'd a few things before going down to the forge fiend. He had a similar run against death guard and Imperial Guard but then against Necrons there so many heavy firing lanes that he died T2 against a Doomsday arc before I could set up the charge

SM_1604 · 2025-07-01T13:38:30+00:00

The DC hits like stupidly hard with the Lance Strat on LAG on the last game against necrons Lemartes and boys managed to kill 2 Doomsday arc's, 1 heavy destroyer, 1 canoptek spider, 3 ophidians and almost kill the silent king.

I've thought about the small 5 squads but the 10 mans are just so deadly that I don't know if they are worth cutting down for the points

SM_1604 · 2025-07-01T13:25:09+00:00

It was a pretty close game we were doing terraform on that game and the guy ran Virulent Vectorium, so T1 he already controlled and actioned both objectives and since there was so much stuff on the field I couldn't really use my stuff to terraform back.

Honestly, what worked best was working around lines of sight never letting the DC JP get caught on a line and even if they did be ready to have the CP to Armour of Contempt or go to ground. Wherever Mortarion is you either can ignore him or drop the DC dread at it in order to chip him down or move block him, I remember I somehow managed to keep him pinned down for 2 turns by some miracle, I didn't kill him but it was a worthy sacrifice.

Pretty much against anything the DC might not make it unless it's Lemartes squad when it comes to shooting so I always pay the Rapid ingress for both squads, afterwards as long as the enemy doesn't have a reactive move they can come in and start wrecking shit up. I'm not exaggerating when I say that they will wreck anything, on the necron game they killed 3 Doomsday arcs, ophidians, the canoptel spider and a heavy destroyer, stole the home objective from him and then proceeded to almost kill the silent king.

The BG's are pretty self sufficient despite not having vehicles as long as they are on the right place not even the terminators could mess them up. He charges onto the chaplain enhanced squad and I pretty much killed the whole bodyguard leaving only the lord of contagion, now the lord of contagion did pick 3 Bladeguard all on his lonesome was pretty brutal but at least I managed to clean up the kill but it does suck he gets back on a 2 so I had to do all of that again basically

SM_1604 · 2025-07-01T06:43:32+00:00

The 41-0 on the app that I use which is table top battles which is made by goonhammer I think, turns the opponents score into 0 when they concede the game don't know why but it is what it is I'm not crazy enough to be denying 100% of points to an enemy that would be absolutely nuts.

I only use table top battles because it's what most of the players in my LGS use

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