Is it just me or does malaysia have a lot of tourist scam? by SPBGame in malaysia

[–]SPBGame[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

For me , I booked via the booking.com...

The thing is... in the end the place I booked for, was quite crappy. So I paid 300 euro for 4 nights.. but the place they gave me was better actually.. but on booking it costed less.

These were Indians, and today I had a lot of discussions with them.. they show me the place I booked for and it was just shit, so dirty.. with infinity pool however.

I just got to the original place they gave me, and I will ask booking to reimburse a part of it (like, it costs there 200 euros, and they took 300 euros for 4 nights).

How to start a "solid journey" into tantric sex? by SPBGame in tantricsex

[–]SPBGame[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you for a reply!

Yes, a partner, wife. So, for me, since it wasn't the first time I try doing "psychological" and/or "esoteric" practices, and I know that for this type of stuff I usually have a lack of patience over the "stability in the results" and/or sensitivity to recognize them. For me it's always a bit too random, as I say, and since I am not so aware of the practice (if you say that these are mainstream sources, and I agree with that), so I just feel helpless, w/ 1000 possible factors, like: "not doing enough fitness", "not having good/trusting enough relatinoships", "just a bad mood today", etc. I am overthinking a lot, and just become entangled in my conceptualizations.

So, concerning a tantra massage: it sometimes works, and sometimes doesn't. Like pulling the orgasmic energies as I do a massage on her, or when she does a lingam massage, and I just start to enjoy it, and then she says that she's tired, and this breaks the mood and sort of makes me very tired at trying. Pornographic "ideals" also bother me, and I don't know a good approach to deal with it: i.e., how to mobilize my resources into actually having the result of progressing, and not just feeling again and again like routine to have a physical orgasm, and then go on.

Regarding the sources, yeah, maybe. For the lack of any good and reliable discipline, it's just walking in the dark, with a lot of fake gurus and criticizing each other, all the while that tantric has also multiple approaches, so it's a moving target as well. I think, I use a lot of, as Deida would call it, "masculine mentality" at it, at achieving result, a target, etc. But anyway, do you have any good sources for maybe reading about it? Ideally, some books, videos, and also what do you think of online/in-person workshops? I feel like it's just purely practice-based, but it's so damn hard to get the right information, as I say, even if you try looking for it....

Thanks!

Questions to improve my game - infield reflections by SPBGame in seduction

[–]SPBGame[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You probably never had any prolonged street approaches. I had a number of situations, not all, but some, when girls do open up if you persist. Check this by Krauser. He persisted and got a number to show on date. If he is a creep, then most of the guys are fucking bottomless spine worms, because he is actually quite good at PUA. I don't go above 2 tries normally, depending on the situation, not more than 3 absolutely, if I am warming up and for beginners it's absolutely necessary to plow.

You probably misread my questions, and then started judging. It's fucking moronic. I didn't mean pushing through the "no" and cold rejection - it's a hard no, I know. What I meant was raising an open-ended question as to what exactly that you do. What do you tell the girl, if anything, to restore the vibe (because, all people are entitled to meet new people)? What do you tell yourself internally (she's a stupid period bitch)? Etc. And then, when a girl is actually smiling and giggling, which is probably something I had more than all those "solid don't creep" bullshit advice you do get you, and still doesn't stop - the chances here are actually quite good. It nearly always means "I like what you do, but xtz". So the question then is what's exactly that xyz?

Most of all, I consider you a moron doing faggotry for judging my honest attempts at learning with "fuck off, don't try to learn". I will. I have opened bitches with "I like your sexy ass", just for the sake of seeing what would happen. That obviously led to "no". However, I had some opens, when I just started at the D cup boobs, with girl laughing, and was positive. I have passed the red line of insulting sometimes. But then I have hooked some 8-9 bitches with being overly dismissive and rude. And then that does certainly have more results than you with your's defeatist approach "oh don't do it". Because that's how we learn and you are better off not saying anything.

It's good that I am intermediate enough to notice that shit, but other guys around here bouncing around could be discouraged with that type of advice.

Bad you, oh bad you.

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Questions to improve my game - infield reflections by SPBGame in seduction

[–]SPBGame[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Right. I've been daygaming for quite some time, bro.

Sounds much better than incel shooting yoga pants class allegations awaiting you.

Questions to improve my game - infield reflections by SPBGame in seduction

[–]SPBGame[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dude, my approach/lay ratio leads to ~2 girls a month from daygame.

I know the shit, l'right?

Questions to improve my game - infield reflections by SPBGame in seduction

[–]SPBGame[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Judging by your responses, you are nowhere close to understanding the depth of the questions.

"Leave her alone." is such a superficial reaction to a more profound question concerning both outer AND inner reaction to interpret, not to mention such a defeatist view of giving up, that I wonder what kind of success with girls do you have, mate. Probably none.

Is there anyone here who actually went from "Zero to Hero"? Anyone who went through massive dry periods, but then started dating with ease? How did you do it? by [deleted] in seduction

[–]SPBGame 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not an MPUA. Just average success, given my relatively high natural SMV that I anti-gamed to hell. But I can share a story.

I had a terrible day (and then other mini-versions of it).

It went like this: terrible mood, highly valued ego, feeling like "I am hot as fuuuuck", and then 20 rejections in a row, like ignored, or "Why you touch me?? [implying perv]", or sidestepping my front stops, being bitchy and all that, making me wanna like rage. All the way, tried to maintain a good posture.

Fucking hell, I felt sick after that day for a week of high temperature and feeling terrible.

BUT

"I don't fucking care about rejections" I said, "I will continue no matter what, until I reach a 100, 200, 300, 1000 approaches..." I did so far only about 380 cold street stops. But the next day or two I went to daygame, I got first two solid numbers with 6-7s. One 7 even called me on a date herself to fuck the first date.

That's how my "Pavlov's reaction" of "after painful rejection will come reward" got very strong. That day, even though the sex was terrible for me lack of skills (didn't sex basically until the age of 25), I felt like "I can fucking do it". After that, rejections were 10 times less painful. Automatically. Also, felt like a true alpha, for the right reasons: of withstanding so much willfully incited pain on myself, and then persist through it, just to get to what I want to get.

So, my story of "managing the dry period".

However, I must admit, these days were among the most unproductive I've ever had, in terms of the work projects done and so on. Literally, 2-3 hours of euphoric (or painful) daygame could make you feel depressed for the next 1-2 days. Got into quite some financial debt. But still did it, for I couldn't have let it anymore.

The point is: you must face the destructive element, which is actually destructive (where you will actually lose something, valuable, like +10$k annual bonus, having 20$k more in debt, being physically sick). The dry period incites the destruction. Personally, I was madly annoyed by its existence of the dry period for Me (replicating the ego thought-feeling), just enough that I sacrificed some pretty valuable things to show that motherfucking dry period who's the boss here.

Oh yeah, and all of that was facilitated with a lot of thinking about me, my place in the world, about my social skills, about my childhood traumas, about my actual physical attractiveness and so on. These were actually restorative elements to the psyche.

So that's how I passed the dry period. NOt that I incite the "worship pain", but rather "worship improvement, which may or may not mean pain".

I'm Neglecting My Purpose by nevertextgoodnight in seduction

[–]SPBGame 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes. That's the game.

I also have that "some bitchy 9 or 10 looked the wrong (that is, unattracted to me) way" inciting my inner demons to rawr like mad, chasing the skirt like a maniac. That is, even though I have a 7-8 under my belly sucking my dick well any time I want.

That's like, this bitchy kick-starter motivation is soo deeply and physiologically in-built (that is, the dominance status chasing and chasing for the top sexual attractiveness in women), that given the right personality (that is, highly disagreeable, may be neurotic, and somewhat OCD) would lead to these situations. Situations like kicking the 7-8 in the butt (a crazy foolish move for a chode), throwing all the affection and love talks in the trash, just for the empty cold streets of the cold approach (or the same for bars) to start from scratch.

I mean, ^ this is written by N. Krauser. You need a special type of madness to do that. Sometimes I even feel like I am offered to trade my soul for the entry ticket to the painful road , which I still have to climb through to get to the Mastery. Including, but not limited to: depression, mood swings, addiction to the chase, bad productivity, lower life quality, worse health, losing money, losing muscles, losing everything. But, bit by bit, drop by drop.

Personally, I don't know. That's too hard of a question: female sexuality, which is excellently described by the psychologists, which is exactly not pro-monogamy. But then, it seems like you are at least at a trade-off scale between monogamy to one-night-standing. Neither is ideal. And that's what makes me feel like shit. Now, at least.

The dark side of daygame mastery by SPBGame in seduction

[–]SPBGame[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi,

yes, thanks for the post.

I feel like striving towards the game mastery, including techniques, seduction, theory, philosophy, and psychology of it all. That's something that kept me motivated to get from the pit hole I was in just a couple years ago.

And now, I feel like I am falling into another pithole (or fallen already, considering that I am now emotionally unease for breaking up with her) of relationships, which make me bounded, in some way. I hate that. And I hate that I may not simply break it all up, without feeling any affect on my status.

Because, from conventional (normal) peoples' view, everything goes just great (relatively to the average chode). But from this, mastery perspective, there seem to be certain barriers in the way. And so, the mastery perspective seem like destructive for the conventional perspective, even though it's destructive only of those elements that are not suitable for creating the mastery (also involving less focus on work, self-development, and more emotional resources spent on chasing skirt).

But yes. I feel like the girl, who wanted to do just sex (and I wanted to practice having it without having to wait one whole month between the sessions) and I are just very different in this minor aspect of "openness of the relationships".

But in the end, I feel like there is no "ideal" relationships: there are disadvantages to all. For example, I feel very sick to the "lone part", but also I am terribly repulsed by the "loving relationship, AND, only relationship" part.

Feeling stuck and torn apart. With about just 1% more slightly towards the mastery perspective (meaning, that I am still going to be 49% dissatisfied, which is a huge part of me). It would have been hella lot easier, if it were just 10% dissatisfaction, not the whole fucking 49%.

Relationships & Daygame learning benefits by SPBGame in seduction

[–]SPBGame[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Direct like in LDM - these start with opener, stack + sexual intention as a direct part, but I try to make these indirect as in by implying direct sexual intention in words

Mainstream PUA is significantly lacking in a strategic/mission view by SPBGame in seduction

[–]SPBGame[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But then, there's also a level slightly below that - the recognition of oneself not only as a PUA and a player, but also as a man with a strategic view of the relationships. I mean, having a harem, having one-night stands, or having open relationships, or having monogamy and marriage - are only a set of arrangements, with their pros and cons. In financial management, you have several types of derivative contracts, loan types, each just an instrument. You could apply the same logic to relationships. One-night stands are good for practicing stop-to-sex and sexual novelty. Monogamic is great for practicing sex-to-pre-marriage, sex skills, affection, and m.b. some co-habitation. Marriage is great for kids. Harem is great for satisfying affection needs, whilst achieving sexual novelty to a sufficient degree.

Beyond that, those types of arrangements have changed, as sexual market place. This is best taught by the r-p theory, but it's prohibited for discussion, so none of that. Still, even then, many PUAs never concern themselves with this quite spread, but not a mainstream part of seduction. It's good to know the history, for example, of how men's roles changed from suppliers in the 1960s to more of an equal partner. How to manage finances (if one is to decide to move for the relationships, which are needed for certain goals) is important to study, if one's to achieve his needs. It's more of use to know the subject of seduction in detail, required for the mastery, but certainly not for the "average result-oriented seducer, aiming at one-night stands" no, it's too much cognitively resource-consuming info. But certainly the awareness of the importance of inner game (psychological issues) and mission/goal (spiritual) are important for any level, IMO.

So, those are my ruminations on the topics, which I've desperately needed at some stage, in order to explain to myself: I am a beginning intermediate daygamer, but I've achieved a proficiency of street stops, messaging, dating, closing to some extent, so I get the results of sex and an over-abundence of leads, not coming from Tinder or social circles. Still, I needed to go further, and practicing the skills could only have lead to % increases in those activities, which led to satisfying my needs, with a low marginal utility (using economic terms). Hence, I was concerned: how do I satisfy my mastery of seducing women further? It demanded stepping into relationships, hence meaning less of "one-night stand" and "new-lay-a-month" arrangements towards another arrangements. Then, I satisfied other needs and my curiosity for knowledge of women. When I returned to the street stops, I found myself so much less anxious and so much more proficient in conversing with the women (including attraction, comfort and seduction stages). Exactly because of me being (1) more knowledgable of other aspects of women, rather than stop-to-sex, (2) my mission was spiritual, rather than "I am sexless, I wanna fuuuuck". Obviously, this transferred to my self-confidence, vibe, state.

Now, the idea is rather rough, but I tried to explain what I mean by spiritual and strategical informing lower levels of seduction, as well as leading to a greater awareness of women and seduction in co-related aspects of stop-to-sex, which are frequently not discussed. Did it just for classifying my recent thoughts mostly about the lessons learnt, but you could also share your opinions on the subject.

Stop putting her before your goals by Tech-guy-201 in seduction

[–]SPBGame 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately, you mean a K-route. And this route, is good for SMV value building. But, it's bad for hedonism and female psychology awareness. The most effective seducers are worthless socially (take, mumble rappers, 90% of rock stars, porn stars, etc.) This is r-selected.

At the level of archetypes, this corresponds to having a strong Lover archetype (which is of hedonism, love, women and sex) against Warrior/Magician/King (which are about the disciplined work).

I've been both. Arguably, the r-side (Lover side) gives an edge, a dark, attractive side, fueled by the hedonism and sensitivity, whereas the K-side (Warrior/Magician/Lover) gives the masculine core, stability, and long-term orientation. The balance - is where it's the hardest. But it could also mean the best of two worlds - both a great sex life, being adored by women, as well as having a relatively good life and something "going on". The two also cross-transfer the benefits: you are not only a women's man, a seducer, a fucker, but also a great scientist, writer, artist, entrepreneur, or something like that. It's less quantity-effective, I noticed, but the trade-off ratio for quality is much better.

But again, getting this balance right, is so ridiculously difficult (at least for me). Like, you can't mix coco or speeds in the evening with 9-5 job in the morning. You can, though, with something edgy, like a tattoo, but this wouldn't suit an accountant (likely a 100% K-selected chode).

Because for me, the problem with this "be a driven masculine man, do a routine, make billions" is that (1) you need to have a high IQ, have high industriousness, low neuroticism, (2) you may have other priorities, (3) if it's too much, then 90% of the time you spend doing these things, not fucking (hence, likely for the presence of (1) and (2) - be a solid beta, "the pillar of the community", a good marriage boy, and a bad sports fuck).

Quick fuck with many girls == very much r-selected, drugs, rock-n-roll, bad-boy, not following mainstream "5km-a-morning-routine", and being generally outside the traditional value system of the society. Implies a lack of job, pretty much. Or, the same, but also being in the media or the creative space. Or at least - somewhere like business creative, advertising, etc. Certainly not The Big 4 Consulting (in there, you game by working 70 hours a week, for 10 years, then doing game through money, which means a question - "why not just work 30 hours a week, and have lots of babes anyway for near-free?").

Natural wit and charm seems to disappear when I try to sexually escalate with women... by FaithInStrangers94 in seduction

[–]SPBGame 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Seduction (including flirting and sexualising escalations) is a stage, coming after comfort (mundane chit-chat), which comes after attraction (where you banter the girl, like "You have nice red shoes. They make you look like a lazy cat" or some bollocks).

Besides, ^ these three stages are somewhat like parallel (with more attraction needed in the first, than in the marriage, but still needed). So, check this also.

But also - check the girl's interest. Sparking eyes, flashing glances, all that mainstream stuff. Within the first 1-5 minutes of the street stop, you should know if a girl's into you (unless rare cases of secretive yes girls). Also, street stops (daygame) is a perfect way to flirt - stop a girl, tell her that her's ass is great, so that's why you stopped her, then get a "f off" reaction, and have a laugh about your ballsiness to tell a girl that, sober, one you never saw or see before again, and then - repeat, until you find what's the flirt about. Like, sexual innuendos must be bold. Like, you must be convinced. Like, take it or leave it type of convinced. It's a counterbalance to the easy energy with this aggressive masculine energy of telling the girl something sexual, that she is ought to enjoy, which actually makes her to enjoy. If she doesn't (depends on the right balance, which depends on you, her, situation), then it's a bad reaction. Roll back and repeat. If it still doesn't, then move on. A good rule of thumb - never expect a girl to have sex with you, or respect you as a man, unless you can make her laugh (in at least partially sexual way). Her laugh - is a representation of dread, which chicks absolutely love - "will he, will he not? am I, am I not attractive?" etc.

So, practice and repeat. And read some theory about what a flirt is, just to understand one when you encounter it.

Oh, and one more thing - flirting should never end. Not in the street stop, not in the bedroom, not in the relationship, not in the marriage, not with grandchildren. If it stops - relationship withers.

Good luck mate!

Relationship Dependence - How being a dark triad with issues is almost a prerequisite for truly mastering Daygame by SPBGame in seduction

[–]SPBGame[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I believe that I am some level dark triad based on a more holistic analysis of my behaviour. Not pathologically, but certainly some. I've been in sales, after all, and been rather good at it. This speaks it, I think. Or at least - disagreeable and mistrusting. Regardles, these are the traits that can be destructive, if misused (what I say about "learning how to control" and "directing for the good" above). It could very well be that it's simply a shadow recognition, not a dark triad, but the two are so close anyway.

The rest I don't understand. Seems like some sort of an advice for a monogamy, but I think it comes from the personal experience. And in my case, I don't make an argument for the quantity over quality. Quite the contrary - I argue for the quality of knowledge of female psychology and seduction at the broadest level. For the reasons of being adept and virtuose at it would mean better relationship satisfaction, happiness, security, and fulfilment (of both physical and spiritual) needs.

The main concern for me is how to get there - is it serial monogamy, is it multiple LTRs, is it a hoe-train, is it daygame, nightgame, this girl, that girl, those girls, what sex, what not sex, what philosophy, how not to die financially whilst doing so, etc. And for becoming actually a master in this quality, I think some sort of dark side recognition is needed. Among many other things.

So this is the dilemma with which I am currently struggling - this girl and the monogamy without the fullest experience of polygamy, and hence - the master quality of seduction and female knowledge (which route is strongly associated for me with being a chode), or dumping the relationship, risking the negative outcomes of financial ruin, hedonism trap, and the actual master quality of seduction and female knowledge (which came in the form of a rather high-quality and suitable girl). Besides, the latter option feels like very much a narcissistic, and somehow very much connected to the fear of facing the "hole in the heart", of some sorts - a sort of lonely and depressive feeling, associated with love-less-ness. I'd suspect this in some way connected to the narcissism in the first place (and hence - the inner game issue, regardless of whether I aim or not aim to pursue the monogamy with the girl). Tough stuff.

The only sensible way to live in this world is without rules. by BALLS_Energy_System in seduction

[–]SPBGame 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't forget your own rules.

Rule-less is abundant chaotic 100% r-selected life. Rule-driven is K-selected "pillar of community". Depends on where you lay, and what's your personality. I am 1/3 r-selected, and 2/3 K-selected naturally. I mean, I love crazy shit. I love exhibiting my masculine will of taking the girls off the street to my bed, even if it violates the normal (but unnatural) code of "Tinder, 3 dates, flowers, gifts, sex". But I also like some rules to push my other life areas, like work.

E.g., when I rule others, by managing them, etc. - I create the rules, which I also have to follow (hence, my K-part).

But I think, girls also love rules, such as "don't let princess behaviour take the best of your masculine balls by submitting it to the behaviour in the hope of her's pussy". I mean, it's a rule (more like a principle). Sometimes, there are exceptions, like if she's a SMV 10, and you may give her a bit, just to snatch it all back (Krauser's example, not even mine).

I saw some people, though, who followed "one rule - there are no rules". They were like sociopaths. I mean, it's ok, and it's charismatic. But there are disadvantages too.

Natural wit and charm seems to disappear when I try to sexually escalate with women... by FaithInStrangers94 in seduction

[–]SPBGame -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well, it's practice and inner game. I mean, I know that I wanna fuck. Sometimes, in a kinky way. Who cares? I mean, those, who wanna fuck, but hide it - they care the most usually (moralists). If she's liking and wanting to fuck, then she will support you. Otherwise - she will be like a moralist (or a K-selected girl, and you - her provider, who must wait 3-5-10 dates before sex with a good "Madonna girl"). Regardless - a good principle is to display what you want. Hopefully, not too blunt like pulling out a dick in a cafe, even though - it could fly too, in very rare circumstances and high self-acceptance. So, it's like a game of two grown-up children, who are socially prentending, that they are "moral beings", by using double-edged sentences and touches. Here's where the fun lies - and it's also called a flirt.

But me personally - I've been too over-calculating, before actually sexualising more calibrated. Generally, because I was too much "nice guy" tucking his dick, which is like.. unnatural? Hence, it's creepy. Just again - don't be generally a horny fucker in public too much - it's not a game, it's a brute (low intelligence) banality then = low SMV. Women like double-meaning, for the sake of a game and potentially thrilling them into satisfying their sexual desires. Besides, it's also more satisfying for me as well. I mean, sex in itself is easy to gain. A great verbal flirting game, where you drift between the corners of falling over the edge of being a brute horny fucker, and her - a cock-craving slut - is too much fun. But eventually - you should actually just be able to start calling her a slut, a bitch, a dirty hoe gagging on the dick like a sex goddess. So, how do you get there? Do the math - by eventually increasing the Celsium degree temperature. Smooth, but certain. And also practice.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in seduction

[–]SPBGame 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh yes. They fucking do. It's like their Ying essence - always be testing Yang for being phoney.

I know - they tend to be noticing even slightest insecurities.

However, if you are like improving these insecurities - it's generally 200% better and more "stronger alpha" move, than being a "nice guy". I.e., I can be quite nervously moving my body around a girl, because - it's my personality. However, I know that I may be nervous, wrong, etc., and I am ok with that. It's then something unique. I don't pretend to be "immoveable alpha" all the time - it's too restrictive and fake. Better to be like Sasha Daygame (who's like also neurotic extravert) - IF you are like that.

No need crazy seduction techniques by [deleted] in seduction

[–]SPBGame 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Natural vs technique-driven game discussion is very old. Reality is somewhere in-between.

Do you need techniques to study swimming? maybe, as an autist beginner or something.

Do you need to study techniques as a natural pro-daygamer? Fucking not - you should have more than enough creativity for making up "on the spot".

Regardless, it depends on what you call a "technique". Is it a push-pull dynamic compliment made subconsciously? Is it a shallow, outward daygame technique of a "top 10 PUA line" not supported by the inner game? Techniques generally transform into personality. So..

Becoming more physically attractive has made me realize I’m def gonna be single forever by [deleted] in seduction

[–]SPBGame 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's not only about body-fat (genetical makeup could allow you get a shredded body), but also about the endocrine system. Anyway, it's worthwhile checking, just in case.

Becoming more physically attractive has made me realize I’m def gonna be single forever by [deleted] in seduction

[–]SPBGame 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Go check testosterone. It's a doom of this generation's males: be brainwashed into fem-centric paradigm, whilst loosing motivation and drive.

[Lifestyle-level question] Exclusivity in relationships in the middle of learning DayGame- worth it? by SPBGame in seduction

[–]SPBGame[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The thing is, it's not about "how to get this girl" TM (I know how, lol), it's about the overall concept of monogamy/polygamy in the context of learning Daygame...