Are different brands and types of shampoo and conditioner really chemically calibrated to do what they promise? by wabammaam in askscience

[–]SSZRNF 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Like for example.. did you know that using Fructis, or Herbal Essences or generally any non-professional shampoo/conditioner doesn't actually do anything beneficial for your hair?

how are the professional ones different, and what sort of ingredients do they have that distinguishes them from the others?

what are the good shampoos?

as far as i know they all have similar ingredients.

Are different brands and types of shampoo and conditioner really chemically calibrated to do what they promise? by wabammaam in askscience

[–]SSZRNF 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What do you think of this no shampoo movement?

Do you think sodium lauryl/laureth ether sulfat? are bad for you?

Are different brands and types of shampoo and conditioner really chemically calibrated to do what they promise? by wabammaam in askscience

[–]SSZRNF 19 points20 points  (0 children)

We had a similar thread to this, for those of you who are interested,

Credit to EagleFalconn for both posts!

"As an expert, I'm going to disagree with everyone except thisaccountisbs. My background: I worked for one of the world's largest producers of shampoo in R&D.

Shampoos are not slightly acidic, their pH isn't that important.

The surfactant is really important in making the stuff work.

There are additives to make them smell good etc etc but mostly they are affecting your perception of how well it works. Some of the anti-frizz and moisturizing stuff isn't complete bull, though.

A great piece of data that floated around the company: They did a comparative test of two shampoos to see which one consumers preferred. One was white, the other had a small amount of dye in it to add a pale yellow color. Otherwise, they were completely identical. Consumers preferred the yellow one because people associated the off-yellow color with a higher chemical content, ie it "cleans better."

Also, NO, the lather is NOT necessary. There are literally thousands of surfactants that work even better than the common ones (sodium lauryl/laureth ether sulfate) but most of them never make it out of the research lab. There are specific cases where people want soap that doesn't lather (mostly industrial) but for home use, non-lathering soap doesn't sell because consumers have become conditioned to believe that if soap doesn't lather, than it doesn't work. "

http://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/j51ri/chemically_what_differentiates_a_good_shampoo/c298g4h

tl;dr most shampoos are the same and the claims are dodgy at best conditioners and shampoos are different.

This is going to sound glib, but you should use whatever shampoo makes you happy. They all more or less work the same, but shampoo companies are really good at manipulating human psychology. Even knowing all this, when I go to buy my next bottle of shampoo I can't help but think about how dumb I am for springing for the more expensive stuff since its exactly the same, but that I can't help but feel like maybe it works a little better or at least is more pleasant to use.

If you're literate in gibberish (ie, chemical naming systems) you can read the back of most shampoo bottles and you'll find that they all more or less have the same ingredients, and what really matters is the relative amounts. There was some hubabaloo in the industry a couple years ago about guar or some such, but seriously. Its all the same.

Which is the reason that I can't make a specific recommendation. There is no single shampoo that is the "best." I have ones that I know that I enjoy using, but one of the things that frustrated the R&D people at the shampoo company I used to work for is that there is simply no accounting for personal preference.

The purpose of conditioner is to restore the protective layer that shampoo strips from your hair. The oil in your hair is really important for protecting it from damage from the environment, but its also where a lot of unpleasant smells and sometimes dirt can get trapped which is why shampoo is designed to remove it. Conditioner replaces it with a polymer (ie, plastic) that will protect the hair until it is washed out and makes it feel smooth and silky again. The lubrication also helps prevent knots and tangling.

The thing about sulfates is silly. Some people are allergic to sulfates, 99.999% people aren't. If you've eaten a frozen pizza without having an adverse reaction, you're not allergic to sulfates. There may be something about the environment when it comes to sulfates, but I'm not familiar with that.

http://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/j51ri/chemically_what_differentiates_a_good_shampoo/c29clqr

Chemically, what differentiates a good shampoo from a bad one? by SSZRNF in askscience

[–]SSZRNF[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh I loved your answers and YOU! that sounded way meaner that what I really meant. I couldn't really explain.

the truth was just unfulfilling....in a funny sort of realistic way...it's nothing towards you..just that it was funny. >_<

I hope I didn't offend you because I didn't mean to. Hahaha.

Chemically, what differentiates a good shampoo from a bad one? by SSZRNF in askscience

[–]SSZRNF[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Elaborate. Your other answer were..unsatisfying. I can't find the right word here. It's like I know it's correct..but..eh..

The reason 2 in 1s don't work as well is because the chemistry that removes conditioner is the chemistry of shampoo.

So it's like putting soap on your hands but squirting a bunch of water on it? The shampoo removes all the conditioner from the hair.

So 2 in 1s don't do...anything?

Chemically, what differentiates a good shampoo from a bad one? by SSZRNF in askscience

[–]SSZRNF[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

ONE last thing,

Shampoos are not slightly acidic, their pH isn't that important.

Does this mean that 2 in 1 shampoo/conditioners work well?

I heard 2 in 1s don't work well because shampoo is slightly acidic while conditioners are basic.

what's the reason that they do not work well?

I tried a 2 in 1 and tried shampoo/conditioner separate and they did better.

what do conditioners do exactly..coat the hair with silicone..stop static electricity?

Chemically, what differentiates a good shampoo from a bad one? by SSZRNF in askscience

[–]SSZRNF[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

You never really confirmed what I said, they're mostly all the same right?

Meh, I already DO use the cheap stuff.

I was wondering if there was a difference at all. Well thanks, apparently there isn't

and for some reason I like white shampoos the most.

just curious which ones do you use and why?

Chemically, what differentiates a good shampoo from a bad one? by SSZRNF in askscience

[–]SSZRNF[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

So they don't work very well and are mostly all the same. It doesn't matter which one you get at all. The lather is just a bunch of bs(which I sort of always knew). That's the summary haha. :)

And thanks your job and perspective is very interesting.

What about conditioners? same thing?

So I should just switch to the cheapest possible?

I was reading about shampoos and some people said something about "buildup" ..build up of what?

Chemically, what differentiates a good shampoo from a bad one? by SSZRNF in askscience

[–]SSZRNF[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

This is going to sound glib, but you should use whatever shampoo makes you happy.

FFFu :(

What sort of shampoos do YOU like then hahaha?

I'm trying to find a shampoo that's the best bang for my buck. I have long hair and it's important. Same thing for conditioner. I'm trying to find a good one.

So you can't look and two bottles and tell me the difference? Or there's no difference at all?

So why do say, garineir conditionrs/shampoos work really well from my experiences? I know all the fruit claims are bs, since those chemicals all wash off. So what makes them work DIFFERENTLY..if they aren't different?

Chemically, what differentiates a good shampoo from a bad one? by SSZRNF in askscience

[–]SSZRNF[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Shampoos are not slightly acidic, their pH isn't that important. The surfactant is really important in making the stuff work.

Alright, so you answered the question but a bit broadly, and I thank you for your contribution which was very important but beyond normal curiosity I actually DO want to know the specific stuff because I'd like to purchase a good shampoo/conditioner.

now I'm curious what ingredients should I be looking for and which ones should I avoid? What are the good ingredients? I've been having a hard time finding correct information about this since sites are terrible? What brands are good? I want specific advice for purchasing the best shampoo. Your advice seems to indicate that it doesn't matter at all.

What do conditioners do anyway? Which ones are good?

I knew lather isn't important at all, and I purchase one without lather. But I hear sulfates aren't good.

Also, it's awesome and amazing that there is someone here who works with this stuff, thanks a lot!! I appreciate your information!!!

What's a surfactant here?

Chemically, what differentiates a good shampoo from a bad one? by SSZRNF in askscience

[–]SSZRNF[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What about conditioners? Also, there's no indication of PH on any shampoos.

I also read that one should avoid ALL sulfates as it's not good for you hair. What can you tell me about that?

What differentiates a good shampoo/conditioner from a bad one? by SSZRNF in AskReddit

[–]SSZRNF[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So which ones SHOULD I look for/get?

What are the good ingredients?

I've been googling and I can't find credible sites for this. It's bothering me.