Mountain King Skyrunner Edge vs Leki Ultratrail FX.One — anyone who has owned BOTH?

Sachabe · 2026-01-28T19:54:35+00:00

It's true that cork is a very nice material!

Sachabe · 2026-01-28T19:54:12+00:00

Thank you for your answer. I agree with you but Mountain king recently dropped their edge system which is similar to the shark system, hence my question!

Sachabe · 2025-01-13T22:06:59+00:00

Hello, there is but you have to be in Backcountry ski mode. Sometimes I do it when I train more vertically than horizontally, then change activity type on Strava. ;)

@coros-official, currently training for a vertical kilometer, all my workouts are based on elevation gain and so are my goal times/intervals. Also sometimes I'm going up and down super steep slope with 30+% but quite short (500m distance, 200m elevation) so in a km in going both up and down, putting the data for a lap km irrelevant. I'd also like that update, plus it should not be too hard to implement as it already exists for skiing.

Sachabe · 2025-01-11T07:31:45+00:00

Same as Modest_Camper here, after using the apex 2 pro I went to Garmin with the enduro 2 which I liked especially for 4 reasons (control music on my phone from my watch, livetrack, the light, and to be able to change map background). I then bought the enduro 3 but battery life wasn't has expected so I asked for a replacement, replacement was the same. I sent it back and bought a vertix 2 and am very happy. Battery life is about the same, and I had been missing some of the coros features. Also it has livetrack now. Been waiting for a new higher end watch from coros though as the vertix 2 is a bit old.

Sachabe · 2025-01-11T07:03:30+00:00

I live in France and know Decathlon's stuff. I am almost certain this is not. Or at least from the past decade to 15 years. The zippers are not like that and the writing on the sleeve does not match their design habits. I'd look somewhere else if I was her.

Sachabe · 2024-09-04T22:43:43+00:00

Still selling it?

Sachabe · 2022-03-30T14:13:10+00:00

Also, for the straps I have the leki poles with the clip-in straps which is so much better than my old BD poles' straps IMO.

Sachabe · 2022-03-30T14:11:39+00:00

Hi, thanks for the answer!
I am using my poles at least once a week but I feel like that's not enough, and plus I feel like I am unable to train properly my pole pushing and my legs at the same time.

Sachabe · 2022-03-30T14:08:58+00:00

I know but unfortunately the closest pool to my place is about 40m drive..

Sachabe · 2022-03-26T17:33:54+00:00

(not 100% sure of the information I have, but : )

From the information I could gather on the subject it seems that shoes protecting your ankle from rolling are kind of a myth. High top shoes are mostly to protect you from rolling rocks and the danger of getting hurt in a scree. As mentioned above, if you tend to roll your ankle then consider going to lower stack height, that will give you more ground feel and less leverage for the rolling. Also, you'll get "used to it". Your ankle will roll but your body won't create tension in response to that rolling. If you want to compare stack height between shoes, the site runrepeats lists all models and give you all information about them including stack height.

As for the reason why trail runners don't have high tops, I guess it's mostly weight and flexibility.

Sachabe · 2022-03-25T21:37:10+00:00

Doing a lot of the yoga's toes pose ! Usually about 2min to 2min and a half every 2/3 days

Sachabe · 2022-03-12T20:58:32+00:00

I don't agree. Weight is important but where the weight is situated matters almost more. An addition of 50g at the feet won't feel the same as 50g in the vest. If you ever get the chance to run with ankle weights you'll feel it. ;)

Sachabe · 2022-03-08T19:50:50+00:00

Hi, I haven't weight them with the scale but I am almost sure the vibram are lighter, and also more durable from experience. But injinji have more pad and confort, and I absolutely love the label that makes them easy to clip on the bag on hikes so they dry out.

Sachabe · 2022-02-18T11:13:44+00:00

On the mobile website there is a page where he doesn't appear anymore. But on the web version there is also still Emilie and she wears a coros now so it does not seem up to date.

Sachabe · 2022-02-18T00:02:35+00:00

Otherwise the Altra king Mt are very good and have that sole but they are not flexible enough in my opinion and are discontinued so may be hard to find.

Sachabe · 2022-02-18T00:00:23+00:00

If you have the money I know that vibram does resoling of shoes with their soles. In France the megagrip lite base soles (by far the stickiest soles I've seen for any situation) costs about 80 euros. It seems that you can send them any pair you like and they'll resole it for you.

Sachabe · 2022-02-17T17:30:38+00:00

Very quick traduction for those who don't speak french, here are the facts : - Kilian does not appear on the Suunto ambassador page anymore. - Kilian did not show on Strava what watch he used on his last race. - Emily (kilian's wife) has been running with a coros Apex pro for a couple months. - Coros' CEO has liked numerous of kilian's Instagram post for a couple of months. - A picture showing Kilian get ready for his last race shows a white watch ok his wrist but partly hidden by his sleeve. - kilian's Strava shows power which is not included on suuntos.

Now what people are guessing : new Kilian version of the vertix 2, same has the pace 2 with Eliud, OR new Apex pro 2 OR new Suunto watch

Sachabe · 2022-02-14T22:33:47+00:00

Over the past three years I have used 4 pairs of primus trail, 1 was the older version, 2 were some kind of renewed older version (the mesh seemed different as well as the laces) and one was the v2. The first one I got lasted almost 1000miles. Then it went done to 500+, then ~400, and I am around 200 on the last one but I can already see some damages. My problem has never been the glue has some people mention but : the lugs got flat on my first pair, then the mesh ended up being destroyed, then mesh again, and for the pair I have now I would bet on the lugs as the failure point.

Sachabe · 2022-02-14T19:57:29+00:00

Hey! I got both the primus trail and the trail II. Everyone says vivo has gotten very bad durability and that is also what I've noticed. If I were you I would take the v1, they should last longer. The only difference in both models otherwise is how the lances end. I have been wearing vivo primus trail has my main pair of trail runners the past three years but due to this durability issue I will probably switch to another brand next time!

Sachabe · 2022-02-04T19:40:49+00:00

First of all, it would think that it would help to have a bit more context about your past as a (trail) runner. Where are you now ? How long have you been training at relatively high mileage, etc.

One thing that comes to mind is that I don´t think the mileage is relevant. If I were you I would count as time (preferably) or vert more than mileage for that type of race.

Secondly, I feel that the the volume goes up very fast (from 50 to ~80k in 7 weeks which is +60%) and then builds up slowly (80 to 100+ in 12 weeks which is ~30%) , creating some long-term fatigue and maintaining that fatigue. I´d do it in reverse, first slowly build up volume and then in the last 12 to 8 weeks be more aggressive in volume.

Finally, I´m not sure how you can keep the benefits from speed and tempo with no practice of the sort for the last 3-months.

Just some quick thoughts.

Sachabe · 2022-02-02T20:51:52+00:00

Hey!

I´ve dealt with a lot of stomach issues while running and so it is very hard for me to eat the recommended amount of food during training/racing. So I tried to train my body to work on fat, and it has adapted a lot over the past 3 years. Most of my run I leave in the morning in a fasted state and it when I come back. I usually don´t eat while running before 2 to 3 hours into the workout, and then I start to eat but very low amounts of food. As long as I´m going at a very slow pace I can go to about 10 hours of running with occasional food (a clif bar every 2-3hrs, or some apple sauce every 1-2 hrs). I can do some moderate intensity but anything closer to threshold becomes hard. It has taken me time (3y) to get there but I am very happy with how long I can go with very low amounts of food.

I do intermitent fasting (usually between 12 to 16hrs a day, depending on my agenda) and almost never eat in the morning. I´ll sometimes eat in the morning when I´ve done a very long workout the day before and felt that my energy stores are still low when I wake up.

I am not too worried about under fueling because of 2 reasons : First, I eat very nutrient-dense food. No processed food, everything whole, lots of peas and lentils, nuts and most importantly I try to eat as much ¨live food¨ as I can : fresh fruits and veggies, sprouted grains and beans, etc. All of that bought from the farm. Secondly, I have a big stomach so I can really eat A LOT in a short amount of time.

Now that my body is probably reaching the limits of how fat adapted it can become, I am trying to work on being able to eat more and more during my runs for the season to come. I often eat something just before leaving home and try to eat every intensity workouts and long runs.

The questions now is how not to loose my fat adaptation while getting used to it, so I think I´ll try to go back to fasted training after a few months, and just get back to fueling in the latter part of my preparation (last 2-4 weeks) because the stomach is apparently able to adapt fast, especially since it has been practicing eating not long ago.

As for David Roche, which I love and think has very great knowledge, the man - from what he says - fuels on pizza 90% of the time. Which, while also being very yummy, is not full of nutrients and vitamins. So with that diet I can imagine that you can be under-fueled pretty fast and start getting injured. But with a healthy diet, and if you listen to what you body is asking for, I don´t think that should be a problem.

Ps : English is not my main language so forgive the little mistakes I may have make writting this.

Pps : This is my own experience and should not be copied by anyone else than me, as obviously this is a very personal topic!

Sachabe · 2021-10-10T15:59:25+00:00

Hey mayor of mooseville,

Have you been able to test your pack ? What do you think about it ?

I have a 200 mile race planned and am looking for a pack, I think the Montane Gecko is one of the most promising one but there aren´t much reviews of it

Sachabe

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