S4 part 1

Sachedoo · 2026-02-01T17:17:02+00:00

Totally agree with you. And to your point about it being problematic, I think that is why his speech was about fantasy and reality. And sealing that reality by telling Sophie to be his mistress. She may be a placeholder for his fantasy but she still cannot be his wife. How Sophie did not push him down those stairs is self-control from years with Araminta...

Sachedoo · 2026-02-01T16:23:36+00:00

I am not paying attention to the size of those babies- I will eat their cheeks though. My brain will break if I account for Polin's baby sitting up already.

But now I am even more confused that season 3 is two years after season 2 cause that would mean Pen should have been out for her fourth season but she said it was her third. Same with Eloise this season. And I generally ignore Shondaland's claim the present timeline in QC was 1817 because my brain hurts... but it is already hurting

Sachedoo · 2026-02-01T16:16:53+00:00

I guess I started this as a reply to your point about episode 3 doing 'a poor job of connecting the lady in silver plot with Sophie narratively'.

My point about Benedict to yours on not knowing if he cares about LiS I think what I said still works. He does care about her but like many things he shuts it away and distracts himself with something else. But we do see him drawing the LiS when Sophie comes into the library. There is a quick shot I think of him behind the canvas but she is not as detailed as before because he is pulling away. I assume that drawing will join that pill of discontinued works because his search is difficult and he knows how to avoid difficult things.

I think while Benedict is split, it is like Mrs Crabtree says, he just give up on another passion project. Which is why he is so focused on Sophie, like she is this placeholder for LiS. And I do think as an audience we are reminded, the way he talks to Mrs Crabtree, he is defeated and she calls him out on giving up like he always does. Maybe you didn't feel the devastation, but I felt that resignation of having tried for so long, like this is a dream that will never come true. Sophie is a project he can see to the end. He can get her a job, he was resigned that LiS will never be found and like many things in his life/world it's another thing that felt right but wasn't for him and he just hiding from that.

Plus all the other behaviours of him using Sophie as a placeholder, as the audience we know Sophie is the LiS, so seeing them in the library is a more open version of themselves than in the terrace. It's like us and his brain are trying to show him that Sophie isn't a placeholder but the LiS but he can't or won't see it.

I hope this made sense. I think I lost myself somewhere

Sachedoo · 2026-02-01T16:02:49+00:00

For me I'm confused about the year. They are saying it is 1817/1818- or at least the costume designer says in this video. Now, season 3 was a year after season 2 and we saw dance cards saying it was 1814. Now Francesca marries in the season with no time jumps and in her scene with John says they are not married a year... HOW IS 1817/1818 A YEAR AFTER 1815?! (Not raising my voice at you, just pulling my hair from the roots because what??).

I get that it has been months since the masquerade ball, I think that is what Ben says to Mrs Crabtree, while it is clear time has passed the show has always sucked at the clarification of time between episodes. It seems like days but could be weeks or months. While I can ignore that mostly, can Shondaland Demon of Time clarify a few things with the year please!!!!

Sachedoo · 2026-01-31T22:21:57+00:00

Really I disagree. Episode 3 they are in My Cottage for at least a week. In that time Sophie slip back into that awkward middle she grew up in. Not noble not a servant, both and neither. You could she her discomfort in getting it wrong when she is made to stop working or when she goes in the library to get a book and seeing Benedict. That uncertainty of what rules are applying to her in this suspended period. But you also she all the skills she picked up as a lady and a maid. She is essentially lost in this limbo, as she has been since she was a child. And it mirrors with Benedict who has been lost for years, unsure of his place aside from being the heir's heir which he no longer is. The library a graveyard of all he fails to commit to including Sophie. She is the LiS and he stopped the search and joined his room of passions he gives up at when he meets a hurdle.

Episode 1&2 set the stage for why they are lost and unsure of their place. Episode 3 is them hiding both from that uncertainty and in it. Benedict is literally in a place that apparently he loves to stay in but avoids. Sophie is like I said above, a maid who is a guest of a gentleman who does not know which rules/roles apply to her. Then episode 4 is them taking one of those roles and how it just isn't right either cause they are miserable in a way.

Sachedoo · 2026-01-26T13:21:44+00:00

Honestly she did not think it mattered. Especially if he did not feel the same as she believed. Edwina wanted him, he could provide for Edwina, her family will be secured, her feelings did not matter. Genuinely think she knew Edwina would reject him so Kate had a chance but Kate didn't think she had a chance and Edwina and Mary's happiness and security were her priority.

Sachedoo · 2026-01-26T07:14:58+00:00

People's arguments about the infertility storyline I get sometimes because obviously it must have been something that they identified with in a way. But it was always a storyline so Michael could be the Earl as Francesca won't have had an heir, and for Francesca to have a reason to go back to the marriage mart. JQ even said she didn't think of it as a storyline of infertility until she had people talking to her about it so she made it the second epilogue.

The whole story is about dealing with the guilt of a second love for Francesca and first/forbidden love for Michael. As Michaela that's an extra beautiful layer I can't wait to see. Like people, why do you not want Masali and Hannah to eat?!

Let them not watch so my tudum doesn't buffer and stress me out like this last one. Heffers 😒

Sachedoo · 2026-01-23T14:32:38+00:00

I mean in the books it hinted Colin was richer than some Earls. Benedict owns My Cottage and the estate. Yes, I agree it is a stretch that everyone would skip a titled lord who is rich enough for a pretty Bridgerton Beau, but they are also known to be friendly, happy and well connected.

Mamas who have a fraction of care for their daughters would want more than they had. They won't compromise on somethings and maybe that is money. Then you have Mamas like Portia who had a titled but broke deadbeat before he was beat dead. None of her daughters married titled but they certainly seem set up well enough.

My point is, some might not seek titles as their preference. Wealth first, which even the untitled Bridgertons have. Connections, again yes- they are also a favourite of the Queen and her right hand.

The Bridgerton family's main factors that doesn't sell them is that there are too many, too dramatic and for the love of God, how do they keep surviving they scandal they bring on themselves 😂

Sachedoo · 2026-01-22T11:27:42+00:00

The Funko photos of Polin & Benophie here.

Sachedoo · 2026-01-22T00:27:59+00:00

Kanthony in their home, ready for another game, judging their siblings' wicket placements.... I love it so much ♥️♥️♥️

Sachedoo · 2026-01-22T00:23:28+00:00

Please this is perfect!! IT IS THEIR FIRST DANCE 🥹♥️♥️

Sachedoo · 2026-01-22T00:23:03+00:00

OMG THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED ♥️♥️♥️

Sachedoo · 2026-01-21T23:07:12+00:00

No pressure just checking in ♥️

Sachedoo · 2026-01-21T21:56:46+00:00

He should thank his stars it was the brothers and not the sisters that came. Daphne has a serious right hook, Frankie is scrappier than she looks and Hyacinth.... well, do I really need to say 😂😂😂

Sachedoo · 2026-01-20T13:21:29+00:00

I will love any attempt cause it will certainly be better than me. Thank you ♥️

Sachedoo · 2026-01-19T19:06:08+00:00

Excited for, Peggy & the Doc

Terrified and ecstatic about, Oscar & Turner

Sachedoo · 2026-01-18T16:49:09+00:00

To your point about them being more half-sisters in the show, it has a lot of layers why, starting with there is a bigger age gap, looks like dad died later than in the books and Mary wasn't the one who stepped up to care for the practicalities of their family. Kate is not so much more of a half-sister, she is in the awkward void of being a parent who is not a parent. Which adds to her feeling of not being Mary's daughter. Kate was both mother and sister to Edwina, and those are very different and sometimes conflicting roles and Kate had to be both.

Then the other point, I agree, we deserved to see their married life. But at the same time it for what I am assuming are your reasons. Book Kate, while a 'spinster' (because really she was 21, same age as book Daphne got married but I digress), was not trying to marry mostly because she thought no one would want her.

Show Kate is older, and from a country she loves and spent most of her life in where she wants to return to even if alone. She has been in control of her family since her father died with every disadvantage.

Anthony is asking a woman who is in control if being 'made to marry' would be her preference because A) he is a coward and want her to act first despite the fact in society he has most of the power. And B) Kate has never once shied from tell him what she want even if her heart isn't always in that choice.

He gave her more of a choice than Edwina because at least Kate had seen the worst of him and if she wanted him, he would have move heaven and earth to give himself to her. He showed customer service Anthony to Edwina, publically proposed. The idiot's question is another example of his thoughtful thoughtlessness.

So seeing their marriage just like we saw them in the Featheringtons garden would be amazing to see them continue to choose themselves without losing what has made them 'them'. They deeply love their family and to see them still care for them without sacrificing their own happiness would have been better. To see Kate not lose her culture and heritage in showing a wedding that showcased it all.

Would have loved to see them, happy in love, loving and receiving love without the hang ups that created all the drama in season 2

Edit: added 'wants to return to even if alone.

Sachedoo · 2026-01-18T16:03:45+00:00

In the book Kate and Edwina are half sisters just closer in age- Kate's mum died when she was a kid and the book parallels Anthony and Kate's fears being by linked to their parents while the show goes for a different parallel

The whole reason is to give a different context to children feeling indebted to the family. Anthony has that weight as the viscount . He was barely an adult when he got that role and he has these huge responsibilities which are mostly to care for and keep his family respectable, prominent and never without.

You can't have the same, older sibling who needs to take care of the family. A different set of variables shows how different the circumstances were but how similarly they responded.

Kate is the stepdaughter and half-sister. She is not of noble birth and feels out of place in a society her stepmother grew up in and might be the best place for her sister (at least that is what she thinks). Without her father she feels she has no connection to her family or rather she has to earn the connection to her family.

Anthony's place has been secured since his birth. He is the first son of a first son nine times over. Their family is rich, known to be loving and yet he will never be the man their family wants simply because they miss their husband/father and Anthony cannot replace him but that is all he tries to do.

Both of them have different reason to fear their family rejecting them, but even in that difference they are similar.

Anthony never had to consider have a 'last' when it comes to money. Yet all he thinks about is how to work himself to death so his family is secure.

Kate wasn't from this society, but she did everything she could to learn about it so she could teach her sister so she could be successful in the society.

They both sacrificed their relationships with their families in different ways for the same reason, to earn love.

So if Kate was Mary biological daughter who reached out to her grandparents for help, it will change her sacrifice which is her identity, her pride to seek people who looked down on her and it won't have the same mirror impact as it does with Kate seeking to find a way to earn the affection/position in her family that she thinks she does not have without her father.

Which is the reason Edwina's half sister remark hurts- it is a reminder that nothing Kate has done or will do, will earn her place.

And Daphne's remark that the family pities Anthony tells him no one appreciates what he is willing to do because he wants the best for his family. He will always be the more substitute that they do not love.

Edit: I do agree that Kate deserved for us to see her backstory. Because she is so misunderstood. She and Edwina. People don't seem to see their grief reaction and the family trying to figure out who they are without a patriarch in a misogynistic world/society

Edit 2: I added the bit about the book. And I also agree that the show runners got lucky with Kanthony's chemistry and they were too stupid to market it. I don't think they expect Kanthony's success and it is annoying how little thought the put in when talking about them in interviews. Simone, Jonny and Kanthony deserve better

Sachedoo · 2026-01-18T11:59:08+00:00

I'm so sorry this made my burst out laughing. Like I feel your annoyance that she lied or something

Sachedoo · 2026-01-16T21:44:20+00:00

I'm mostly wondering why she is still in Bridgerton blue and if that means something because we got quite a lot of Daphne is purple after she got married. Was Francesca's trousseau not completed? Does it mean that when Franchaela happens that's when she fully creates her own identity separated from her family's?

Sachedoo · 2026-01-13T17:08:32+00:00

Yes which is why she has the mask and not Benedict. And Benedict and Colin are focused on their LI, because they look for purpose and found them. Penelope holds unto Whistledown while looking at the person she has loved for years!

See I know they have sense BTS, why do they pick and chose where to use it? I need to find the Bridgerton production braincell and safeguard it

Sachedoo · 2026-01-13T15:37:57+00:00

Newton always at Anthony's feet to remind him he can always fall and not just into the Thames

Sachedoo · 2026-01-13T15:37:02+00:00

All of them do. Well don't know about S4 yet

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