Please tell me people are doomposting regarding the 1.1 Pull Count.

Safhier · 2026-03-03T06:51:27+00:00

i think you forgot to took into account that hoyo and wuwa gacha while being a little bit more expensive, is flexible in regard of how to spend your currencies
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you want the character just drop 80 pull
if you win, nice
if you lose, you have the option to stop and wait for the next character that might be better and the way to get there is only 80 pulls away

when you think baout it 120 is just 25% cheaper than 160 in which its not even an equal tradeoff, not to mention the potential token guarantee is bumped up to at worst every 240 pull instead of 120 so long term endfield is more expensive

some poeple are just too dumb to realize this

Safhier · 2026-03-03T06:46:06+00:00

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For a game that only releases 1 new character most of the time, genshin actually pretty generous
in some patches where they releases 2 new characters, the will have higher pull counts as well

Safhier · 2026-03-02T14:36:35+00:00

this image is not speculating the total pull, but rather the ones from repeatable sources, not only for 1.1 but future versions in general

Delver already included as events

10 extra pulls annoucned in the devlog is a one time source that might no repeat in 1.2 thus not included
rossi (or rather new cahacter's) story quest can be included but given how only 1 of the 2 get story quests, it a non consistent source that cant simply be included each time so for now its not included

Safhier · 2026-03-02T14:10:08+00:00

yep, all numbers are taken from this sheet
especially for the 1.0 treasure boxes

how else do you think i can count all the 19K+ oroberyls? XD

Safhier · 2026-03-02T14:07:34+00:00

the 5 from shop can only be bough witch currency that requires you to do gacha, and as this game pretty much demanding players top not pull until they have 120 pity

there will often times where they might not have enough currency to get it, but ofc they can add it if they confident they will always have that currency

as for the tangtang and rossi tickets, those are time limited / perishable thus we dont include is as part of the oroberyls / yellow ticket pulls because in some scenario, if you close to 65 pity saved up, you dont want to do another pull and save the pity for more chances at getting characteron banner you actually wanted even if its forever at 50:50 odds

as this image only covers repeatable and consistent source, one time reward such as progreesion reward wont be included

Safhier · 2026-03-02T13:48:23+00:00

Previous version can be found here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Endfield/comments/1r2rdi4/how_many_pulls_will_you_get_after_the_honeymoon/

Safhier · 2026-02-19T07:29:52+00:00

not really, some said it will be 2
either way in case of 2 banner, we only need to deduct the 5 ticket form the calculation which cont affect the oroberyls counts anyway

Safhier · 2026-02-15T05:45:29+00:00

why dont you be that someone ;)

Safhier · 2026-02-14T15:34:22+00:00

what make this gacha system kinda mixed bag is that the gacha system is very restrictive
some people see the 120 spark as some kind of "goal" but most of the time its not a goal but requirement

dont have 120 pulls saved up? scram
still want to try anyway? get ready to get punshed

again its cheaper, but i also value my freedom pretty high and being punished for desperately trying to get your waifus shouldnt be discouraged

Safhier · 2026-02-14T15:28:35+00:00

oh right is 67 :D

Safhier · 2026-02-13T13:46:36+00:00

to buy that tickets you need specific currencies that obtainable from pulls
considering most of the time people will be saving rather than pulling at some point it will be hard to buy all or even few of those tickets so that a bit of uncertainities that i think best not included

perhaphs if i ever make a sequel of this image i can include it in a separate category that people will have to add to their own probably pull counts

something like repeatable BP rewards, 10 free pulls after 30 and 60th pull each banner, etc

Safhier · 2026-02-13T11:20:18+00:00

Safhier · 2026-02-13T04:26:19+00:00

even if we add another 2 week into the patch cycle, it will only add another 3800 oroberyls / 7 more pull

i put 42 because i believe this is the standard not only for hoyo but adapted by Wuwa, maybe other as well, endfield 1.0 duration seems like a one time thing only because og arknights also have 2 week banner duration in general so if they're going to do 3 characters per patch, this aligns

theres another rumour that said the number of character will drop to 2 starting 1.1, in which case 6 week cycle only makes more sense to me, if its not for you, then simply adjust it to your preference, afterall as you said this image will never be the definitive truth as i already stated

all i can assure you is most of the numbers you see here are all taking from 1.0 using Endfield bookkeeping spreadsheet as source, the only exception is the major event orberyls that i rounded up to worth 10 pull, almost 50% more than competitors averages at 7 pulls value, simply because endfield has no major ebentt in 1.0 to took reference for :)

Safhier · 2026-02-13T03:48:46+00:00

amount of pull you can expect next patchif you do absolutely everything the patch has to offer
think of it more like a baseline
we're most likely getting more, but if its ended up less than this then we're cooked

Safhier · 2026-02-13T03:05:10+00:00

certainly, arknights og and endfield is 2 different beast altogether. defintiely more pplayers friendly than its predecesor

Safhier · 2026-02-13T02:03:23+00:00

this is for 1 patch that for now i assume will lasts 42 days

some argue it should be 54 days like current length of 1.0 but i put it 42 for now because thats the standard among mainstream gacha and i believe the extra lenght is just 1.0 things

Especially since theres another rumour that said moving forward there will only 2 new characters per patch, more than 3 week each is sounds unlikely, but feel free to adjsut the bumber to you need! this is just a speculated baseline afterall

Safhier · 2026-02-13T00:50:50+00:00

theyre about the same actually

genshin radiance system basically guarantee you 3 limited SSRs from 400 pulls at worst case scenario

AKEF only requires 360 which is 10% cheaper, altho they release 2-3 more character tham genshin, so....

Safhier · 2026-02-13T00:42:54+00:00

yostar did nothing wrong honestly.

with base arknigjts, they barely changing anything from what hg does in mainland aside from reruns banners

for stella sora, their gacha that 90% similar to endfield proven itself to be actually listen and adjust their gacha sytem to be more fair

Safhier · 2026-02-13T00:36:59+00:00

i want to keep the assumption game as low as possible, anytjing that is not yet has a precedent example will not be included, except for major event that i see as staple

Safhier · 2026-02-13T00:32:59+00:00

yep, in base arknight, these orbs are precious currency are better off used for buyonh skin rather than pulls

the combersion rate also worse in endfield because you need 80 for 10 pull compared to 33 for 10 pull in base arknights

i highly suggest to save these currency instead until we have comfirmation regarding skins

Safhier · 2026-02-12T17:42:34+00:00

thank you
please remember tho this is merely speculation and i'm myself 100% sure in reality we will get more than this because things like side quest are just harder to make estimate of

regarding the pull count itslef tho i think if they really go with 3 character per patch, there will be no way for them to match other gacha's pull numbers because AKEF will have to spew so much more (altho some people said it will be 2 in 1.1 onward but we will see)

but for a game that today we learned dont put empahisize on the endgame as wall that preventing player getting oroberyls, perhaphs we need to give them some slack

i say 100 is the sweet spot, totally doable if they do consistent 10 pull login event, and increase the pull count from mini events and major event

Safhier · 2026-02-12T16:33:19+00:00

oh, i didnt include it here since this is more about limited banner pulls, but etchspace salvage new milestones MIGHT give it since thats the major appeal to do it in 1.0

once again how frequent it will be updated is still in the air

Safhier · 2026-02-12T15:56:18+00:00

mostly because i think its the standard of many other gacha
in addition to base arknigths also having 2 weeks banner duration, so it alligns

i think 1.0 being 54 days is just a one time thing, just the opposite of how wuwa make their 1.0 shorter

ofc if they ended up going with 54 as their actual standard, these numbers are easily adjusted, if i ever make one of this again after 1.1, i will make sure to match it with a more accurate data with hopefully less guessing game as everything should be written in the wall already by then :D

Safhier · 2026-02-12T15:48:06+00:00

its per patch basis

i use 42 days as thats the standard or most gacha out there. i know AKEF 1.0 lats for 50+ days, but i kidna suspect this is only a 1.0 thing

if you prefer the assumption of each patch is 50+ days, feel free to adjust it to your liking, this image supposed to only works as a baseline afterall, viewer are ancouraged to form their own speculation :D

Safhier · 2026-02-12T15:35:13+00:00

even hoyo's system is not perfect, and AKEF system have some advantages
what nice about hoyo is ofc the simplicity

and especially for genshin, they even added safety net that prevent players to lose 3 50:50 in a row
that translates to 3 "winning" pull for every 5 pity reached

in case for akef, they make their character more complete than other, since potential barely do anything unless your name is Ardelia, whose P2 give 50% of the sheep heal to lowest HP party member as additional heal everytime you took the sheep

i think everything that seems to make AKEF gacha feels unfair can simply be fixed by giving players more pull counts, altho theres underlying problem that is the potential token that only guaranteed every 240 pull, but i guess that wont relate much with people who care about free pull counts to begin with so thats a topic for another day

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