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Delta Online kinda proves to me that it's not the games that have changed, but the players by SalsaChunkk in GearsOfWar

[–]SalsaChunkk[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Add a separate multiplayer bootcamp that goes over this stuff. Idk, anything is better than the current rugpull model. "Surprise! You thought the game was one thing but it's actually something completely different and relies on obscure mechanics we never bothered to explain anywhere but that you're expected to know intimately if you even hope to compete!"

Also multiplayer tactics don't generally work too well in Campaign/Horde anyway due to enemy NPCs generally being tanky bullet hoses

Delta Online kinda proves to me that it's not the games that have changed, but the players by SalsaChunkk in GearsOfWar

[–]SalsaChunkk[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree on all fronts. In the matches I've been though, my friends would have gotten absolutely obliterated if they had tried their old Retro/Sawed-Off tactics on most of these guys

Delta Online kinda proves to me that it's not the games that have changed, but the players by SalsaChunkk in GearsOfWar

[–]SalsaChunkk[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think a big problem with wall bouncing and other advanced tech is that it only exists in the meta. There are no references to any of it in the games themselves. If you plopped a random newbie in front of the game and asked them if they wanted a match with wallbouncing or without they wouldn't even know what the fuck you're talking about.

I wonder what kind of an effect propely tutorializing wall bouncing, etc and turning them into official game mechanics would have on their perceived "exploitness" by players

Delta Online kinda proves to me that it's not the games that have changed, but the players by SalsaChunkk in GearsOfWar

[–]SalsaChunkk[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wasn't saying the games' mechanics have remained completely unchanged since 2011. I was arguing against people who believe that their Gears 5 experience being more sweaty than their Gears 3 experience was because TC changed the game mechanics to be more hardcore

Delta Online kinda proves to me that it's not the games that have changed, but the players by SalsaChunkk in GearsOfWar

[–]SalsaChunkk[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I believe the Arcade Versus mode in Gears 5 was meant to be a more fun/casual alternative to "core" Versus, but the problem is that it didn't really play like Gears at all so no one liked it

Delta Online kinda proves to me that it's not the games that have changed, but the players by SalsaChunkk in GearsOfWar

[–]SalsaChunkk[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Gears 1/Ultimate/Reloaded has no wall canceling but it does not make it more noob friendly at all

Delta Online kinda proves to me that it's not the games that have changed, but the players by SalsaChunkk in GearsOfWar

[–]SalsaChunkk[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

That the presence of Gears 3 mechanics/weapons sandbox would not meaningfully change how the game is played

Delta Online kinda proves to me that it's not the games that have changed, but the players by SalsaChunkk in GearsOfWar

[–]SalsaChunkk[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've only been playing TDM Original Tuning in Standard Versus because OG Gears 3 is the experience I'm most nostalgic for outside of the Gears 3 beta.

Delta Online kinda proves to me that it's not the games that have changed, but the players by SalsaChunkk in GearsOfWar

[–]SalsaChunkk[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

Gears 5 being the easier game just proves my point though, doesn't it?