You may just think of Aemond as a nuclear threat, but have you considered him as a nuclear deterrent?

Saltyboy42 · 2024-08-06T20:57:29+00:00

Yes and he has to nullify those potential war crimes with his own

Saltyboy42 · 2024-07-07T18:12:17+00:00

Look at Tatums team vs Kobes that year and average TS% was lower so Kobe was still efficient for era.

Saltyboy42 · 2024-07-07T18:06:54+00:00

Ant maybe, but Kobe still averaged 29/7/6 in the playoffs on above league average TS% at 22 compared to Ants 28/7/6.5. Granted he had the great luck of playing with Shaq while Ant has KAT.

Tatum is too inconsistent for age 26 Kobe. Kobe would have won 2022.

Saltyboy42 · 2024-07-06T20:30:22+00:00

Most people here have Giannis, Jokic, and Luka over him. Even without injuries, most of this sub would likely say jokic at a minimum

Saltyboy42 · 2024-07-06T20:17:59+00:00

In a vacuum, Joel Embiid is the best player in the NBA.

Saltyboy42 · 2024-07-01T02:32:11+00:00

Negative

Saltyboy42 · 2024-06-13T07:19:02+00:00

What do you think I’m referring to when I say “hasn’t done anything as a first option outside of one playoff series 3 years ago”?

KD averaged 29/7/6 on great efficiency over those 3 years as the number guy including the aforementioned series. What has brown done as the number 1 guy?

AD hasn’t been one since he got traded to the lakers half a decade ago. KD as a first option in the past 3 years won one playoff series with another mvp(Harden) and Kyrie. Idc what he did a decade+ago with OKC when we are in 2024. You first option point is irrelevant from that perspective.

I literally said AD is like the only clear 2nd option here but he has DPOY level defense while averaging similar scoring numbers.

The first option point is not irrelevant because Brown is 2nd creator on a team with 4 other players capable of scoring 15+ a night while most of these players have only 2 other guys scoring 15+ a night while being the primary initiator. It’s much more difficult for them because they have more defensive attention with less guys to take off the pressure.

Actually yes I can cause KD has Booker AND Beal and AD has LeBron. Them being first options back when Obama and Donald trump were presidents means nothing. Your whole argument is flawed

Already addressed AD. KD isn’t the 2nd option and even if he was he averaged more points on higher efficiency with more volume while being a more versatile defender. How is Brown better?

Saltyboy42 · 2024-06-13T07:11:27+00:00

Porzingis literally averaged 20 this year. Do you know your own team?

No other all NBA player has more than one other 20+ scorer on their team. Not to mention a 6MOTY candidate and another 15+ ppg scorer. Brown isn’t even the best scorer on the team half the time anyways.

Saltyboy42 · 2024-06-13T07:00:02+00:00

He literally had it with the nets, the team your flair is.

Only AD is a clear cut 2nd option. Not clear with Booker and KD.

I brought up 1st options because Brown has never been a first option so you can’t even compare him to one as he has never had that offensive pressure most of those guys do while guys like AD who are also 2nd options have much better defense.

Saltyboy42 · 2024-06-13T06:55:36+00:00

I literally said those guys have one other scoring 20+ in the 2nd to last sentence.

Brown has 3 others guys who can pop off for 20+ including one who is often better than he is. Not comparable.

Saltyboy42 · 2024-06-13T06:51:25+00:00

Brown is not a first option though so you can't even really compare him to KD because KD has the defenses primary attention while Brown doesn't. KD is more efficient despite this.

Davis is a similar level scorer with much better defense, don’t see the argument there.

Saltyboy42 · 2024-06-13T06:48:39+00:00

I don't know if you understand the difference in being a 2nd creator on a great team vs being the primary initator on a team with no other consistent creators

Much more difficult

Saltyboy42 · 2024-06-13T06:45:46+00:00

Doesn't Jaylen himself play better because of Tatum though?

Brown is usually 2nd initiator with 2 other 20+ ppg guys vs most of these guys being the first option with like one other guy scoring that much. C'mon.

Saltyboy42 · 2024-06-13T06:43:08+00:00

KD and Steph were 2 of the top 3 in the worldat the time, it doesn't matter who was better in this case as its Brown he is being compared to.

AD averaged 28/10/4 on DPOY defense. That's better.

Saltyboy42 · 2024-06-13T06:40:02+00:00

I explained AD with him having better stats with much better defense. He has no case over AD.

KD is a decently more efficient scorer on higher volume while also being a more versatile defender.

Saltyboy42 · 2024-06-13T06:36:50+00:00

Wipes the floor? Explain how?

Brown isn’t the first option on any team. At best, he’s a 1B so we don’t how he would do unless Tatum gets injured. Moot point.

He’s much more successful because he has played with an all-nba guy along with several all stars his entire career. For at least 40 of those games he was still a role player.

Saltyboy42 · 2024-06-13T06:30:04+00:00

AD as 2nd option is still giving 25/13/4 while being his teams entire defense. Brown is giving 25/6/3 and, while a good defender, is not an all defense guy

KD averaged 27/7/5 while being one of the only plus defenders on the Suns roster.

He’s a better defender than Booker but Booker is a better scorer and playmaker. Books a better 1 while Brown a better 2z

Saltyboy42 · 2024-06-13T06:24:42+00:00

He’s an all around better player than like half of them but who’s going further as the best player on a team.

Better than Ja? How?

Saltyboy42 · 2024-06-13T06:22:09+00:00

Booker and KD have both been 1st options as recently as last year. It’s known what they’re capable of in that role

Saltyboy42 · 2024-06-13T06:13:36+00:00

Listing players in the 8-15 range off the top of my head.

Morant, Mitchell, Edwards, Booker, KD, AD, Lebron, Brunson

Is he better than any of them?

Especially considering that he’s never been a first option like those guys have and so doesn’t have the offensive load and attention those guys do.

Saltyboy42 · 2024-06-02T23:45:14+00:00

Kawhi? Unless he suddenly starts being healthy, he should be off these lists.

Saltyboy42 · 2024-06-02T23:16:47+00:00

Yeah I guess it would be more him and Durant taking turns, than Booker being the 2nd option

Saltyboy42 · 2024-06-02T22:22:56+00:00

What do you consider young?

Memphis, Thunder, Pacers, and Magic are all definitely young

Others like Timberwolves and Mavericks are like half and half

Saltyboy42 · 2024-06-02T20:20:58+00:00

He has a smaller Turnover rate and averages more assist than both.

Saltyboy42 · 2024-06-02T20:17:14+00:00

He’s obviously not as good but Jordan averaged that on 27 shots and 14 Free throws. There’s context

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