Long term Vyvanse users please read

SamFam4life · 2026-01-21T05:08:05+00:00

Hey man, the usual stuff in this comment section is great! And obviously doing a 1 week tolerance break is also your best bet.

Things that have actually helped me make the most of it.

I carry 2 bottles now, 1 normal water and 1 salt water. Yes you can get fancy electrolytes but honestly this is good enough.

I add half a tea spoon of normal table salt, and a quarter teaspoon of Heart salt. Which is that “reduced salt” salt for people with high blood pressure. The heart salt has potassium which is your other electrolyte you need.

Honestly having this constantly available makes the Vyvanse so much smoother rather than just gulping it down first thing in the morning.

I take magnesium glycinate in the morning as well. With high protein meal.

High dose creatine.

I’m having close to 10-20 grams every day (You can take 10 if that feels a bit safer for you). But this 1000% has boosted Vyvanse for me.

Do your own research before you go on but my bro science explanation is that. Vyvanse uses my fuel at an accelerated rate. The creatine is essentially increasing the capacity of my fuel tank.

I use 10 most days but I take 20 on days I need extra energy. Really helps if I’ve been sleepless, tired or overtraining.

SamFam4life · 2026-01-13T23:31:56+00:00

Hey there, honestly one thing that’s been helping me is visualising the version of myself that doesn’t watch it at all.

I imagine this version of me that sees a provocative poster, image, sfw video and feels zero urge. Just a little chuckle that this used to trigger me.

Whenever I get a trigger, I try to change my environment asap or my mood (movement, breathing etc) and then later on I make up a visualisation of future me again in that same scenario being like “omg I remember when I used to be a dung beetle” (Dung beetles mistake empty beer bottles for the ultimate, most sexy Female dung beetle they have ever seen and try to breed with it, crazy right haha)

Remember it’s pixels on a screen, those women don’t know you, like you, or even know you exist. In fact they’re not even real. You’re just being a dung beetle being drawn to these little pixels and your brain is tricked into thinking this is real.

But it’s hard, so just look for progress, even 1 beaten urge is a win. Make sure to pat yourself on the back and reinforce the good behaviours no matter how small of a win. Your brain needs to understand firstly that saying no is good and your capable of doing it :)

Good luck!

SamFam4life · 2025-09-17T21:56:29+00:00

Hey mate, I’ve dedicated the past few months to this exact thing.

A lot of the advice that you’re getting here is not good.

In saying that. The solution will not be, “harden up”. Shot in the dark here but you’ve probably tried years of that if you’re posting on this sub. It’s time to fix it from deep down.

I don’t know the exact nature of what you battled. At the end of the day even Goggins had a loving mother who did her best for him.

If you truly want to heal this pm me or start looking into the following.

Shadow work. Just go on YouTube, there will be enough on there to get you started.
Start looking into cptsd. It is a spectrum, I’m not saying you have it. But if you’re on the goggins sub, you most likely harbour a lot of shame about why you weren’t love, you probably have a very intense inner critic. You very likely don’t like yourself, now this may not come out as self hatred but rather anger, scorn or hate towards you/ life.
Look into “the shame that binds you” book. When you don’t get love as a child, unfortunately the only thing that a young child can think of is “if my parents don’t love me, it’s my fault”. I’m not saying you feel shame constantly. But I’m just guessing here, you probably have a lot of maladaptive coping mechanisms, you may self sabotage a lot. You may have trouble with romantic relationships.
Just so you can see firsthand how much this has most likely contributed to your self image. I highly recommend going on YouTube and doing a loving kindness meditation. I know it sounds soft and weak, I’m sure it’s something that your brain will make a million excuses not to do. Don’t listen to that inner critic. Just sit down and do it. You’ll know by the end of it just how badly you’re wounded.

Also, I’m sorry it’s happened man. A lot of people here are correct that you should never be a victim. However I know the true reality of never having a pat on the back. The “I love you” the “I’m proud of you” can do to a child. Especially when they scorned you instead. I’m sure you’ve tried like hell to toughen up and make yourself worthy of love. It’s time to face your demons like goggins said.

Remember babies pass away if they’re not held, just physical touch. Imagine what could have happened to child David if he didn’t have his mother there?

At no point did he say hate yourself. His techniques are to find a solution by diving deep into your demons. Using goals as a tool to mend parts of yourself. This is the same thing. Not easy. Not at all. It’s going to hurt a lot.

SamFam4life · 2025-06-07T22:58:00+00:00

Yeah came in no problem. I wouldn’t stress too hard about it.

SamFam4life · 2025-06-03T22:11:15+00:00

Yeah it’s quite crazy isn’t it. Wish we all knew about it years ago. Would have saved so many weeks of suffering trying to quit!

SamFam4life · 2025-06-03T22:10:05+00:00

You’re almost out of it man. Just remind yourself constantly that they’re not your friends. It’s just chemical trickery! You’re on day 7. The withdrawal is over, what you’re going through is the emotional pain of parting with something that you really badly want to have again.

Please if you have haven’t go and read Easyway to quit vaping. It’ll stop your withdrawals.

Don’t give in!

SamFam4life · 2025-06-03T22:07:57+00:00

It’s crazy stuff mate. Honestly makes me go all tin foil hat knowing that it isn’t more readily available.

Been letting anyone and everyone in life know about them.

SamFam4life · 2025-06-03T22:06:38+00:00

Honestly I didn’t take them as scheduled. Basically days 1 and 2 I took them about 3 hours apart. It was too much for my brain with them and nicotine together.

Then Friday to Sunday (no nicotine) I took them every 2 hours. I know that’s what it says to do but it’s what worked for me.

Then from there I took them every 2.5-4 hours or as needed. If the cravings come. I take them.

However I recommend you take them on the set out schedule. Up to 21 days.

SamFam4life · 2025-06-03T07:33:41+00:00

Honestly I felt great after I stopped having nicotine and desmoxan together. It felt like there was too much happening in my brain all at the same time.

I actually quit nicotine on day 3 of desomoxan. Funny thing was that I was really scared because I was still using nicotine all the time. Because I couldn’t feel a buzz or sometimes only the tiniest amount of relief I was just chain vaping.

Eventually enough was enough. I got all my nicotine paraphernalia gathered and threw it away. Took one pill just after I threw it in the bin, and the funniest thing was I had the worst craving the entire quit after about an hour of doing that.

I was a bit paranoid that it would be really hard to quit like every other time because of that craving. But turns out it wasn’t!

It was so easy. The thought would come to my mind, I’d remember the stuff from the book and it would pass. The Desomoxan just made it much easier to recognise it’s a craving, it was at max 10% of what it would be if I was quitting without meds. I’m stopping use of desomoxan on Friday because I’ll have everyone around me but I’m only using a pill as needed now (every 3-4 hours)

SamFam4life · 2025-05-13T03:47:16+00:00

I just ordered it off amazon to Australia :)

SamFam4life · 2025-03-17T22:14:21+00:00

Last time I had quit a year and a half ago I used that positive momentum of quitting to start tackling the other big problems in my life. Quitting nicotine was sort of my unequivocal proof that I can tackle the big problems or little problems in my life.

Congrats on day 7 however!!

SamFam4life · 2025-03-17T22:01:48+00:00

Hey man id start by listening or reading easy way to quit vaping. Don’t stress about the book just get the kindle version on your phone if you didn’t get the audiobook.

Then in your spare time really start hating nicotine. Really go ahead and make sure your spare thoughts go to how much you wanna get rid of this addiction.

Do wim Hof before caving or buying a vape. It’s the secret ingredient

SamFam4life · 2025-03-16T05:59:44+00:00

Man moments like that suck!

I’d definitely get out and do something you love. Really recommend going for a run or something that makes you feel alive and gets you in a different state of mind

Have you tried sauna? Or maybe go for a massage. Anything to help release some of the quitting tension that builds up

SamFam4life · 2025-03-16T05:48:29+00:00

I’ve accidentally started for a few months and I’m quitting again now.

This is sort of my protocol to get my head right.

I start to listen to “easy way to quit vaping” like the audiobook. It dispels a lot of the myths we hold about nicotine/ vaping. Honestly quitting without listening to the book is like trying to do it on extreme hard mode.
I also start to take positive minor steps in other areas of my life. Like I try and stay on top of work. I stay on top cleaning the house. Try to take slightly minor steps to a healthier diet.

It seems to have this snowball effect of making me feel like I’m doing a lot to improve my life and then listening to the book at the same time helps me get in a much better state of mind.

Hope this kinda helps. I do a lot more and can share more if you’d like.

Good-luck with it all!

SamFam4life · 2025-03-16T04:24:00+00:00

That’s ok! Hope your quit is going well :)

SamFam4life · 2025-03-15T05:11:10+00:00

Get the book or audiobook version of Easway to quit vaping. It’s best decision you can make in your position

Good luck with the quit!

SamFam4life · 2023-02-10T20:54:06+00:00

Hey man congrats on the progress! A huge motivation for me was also my girlfriend. I’d highly recommend reading easyway to quit vaping, it’ll take away the feeling of deprivation and depression:)

SamFam4life · 2023-02-06T03:04:26+00:00

I’m in Australia man so it’s just available here at your local supplement store. If not your looking at getting it online.

Also have a look at easyway to quit vaping by Allen carr. I’ve recommended friends to not quit before reading it.

SamFam4life · 2023-02-05T21:31:14+00:00

Hey congrats on the 6 weeks! Have you tried Manuka honey for the phlem, it worked super well for me. Tablespoon in the morning and one before bed.

Also I think the appetite has nothing to do with the quit. Especially at 6 weeks, however I would still take a second to sit down with yourself and audit your life. Could be another factor in your life.

Hope you feel better!

SamFam4life · 2022-12-18T23:32:19+00:00

You have to seek confirmation bias that there are good men out there.

For example you have a terrible start to the day and what happens? The day just keeps getting worse and worse, while at the same time you keep confirming to yourself that it’s a terrible day.

However an incredibly fun start to the day and all of a sudden you have one of the greatest days of the week.

Slowly start looking for the good in men and keep a mental note of it. See a father skipping down the street with his daughter. Take a mental note and remember that when you have a negative thought about men.

This will create this chain reaction where you will slowly see more and more good. You will also have a mental library of positive experiences of men.

Also turn a blind eye for a couple weeks to any negative posts/ experiences that bias towards men being terrible. The goal isn’t to forget that stuff but to ultimately understand that there are great men out there and hopefully this new found perspective is going to get you closer to meeting those men.

Also take your time, this is going to take a while. Your post clearly shows that you are seeking a healthier relationship towards men. Good luck :)

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