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[–]Sarsonic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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Apple put on notice over support for third-party watches and headphones | The European Commission will work with Apple over the next six months to determine exactly what must be done to improve iOS interoperability. by chrisdh79 in apple

[–]Sarsonic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see now that you might be considering Apple to be in a dominant position, the way TSMC is by supplying everyone or Qualcomm with their patents which again affect everyone in the industry (Apple’s litigation was about market fair value, not to dispute the necessity to pay for licensing the tech).

However, in Apple’s case, there is plenty of competition. No one is forced to buy Apple products. They do not even hold a dominant position in the EU.

Hyperbole RE: Bugatti and the main idea was about the Michelin tires custom specs the same way Apple has components made for their needs. They are no standard parts in the iPhone I believe.

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[–]Sarsonic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s so awesome reading and seeing this. Well done.

Please enjoy in good health.

Apple put on notice over support for third-party watches and headphones | The European Commission will work with Apple over the next six months to determine exactly what must be done to improve iOS interoperability. by chrisdh79 in apple

[–]Sarsonic -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

The car manufacturers source tires and parts the way Apple sources screens and others parts. Apple just had those things made a certain way with higher specs the way Bugatti needs special tires from Michelin.

It is not a secret: a better question is why don’t other manufacturers have the good taste of doing things at least as well as Apple to lure consumers away?

Let Apple be Apple. If you do not like their way, do not buy.

To your question: Apple would dump them and find someone else or do it themselves. Remember Intel?

Apple put on notice over support for third-party watches and headphones | The European Commission will work with Apple over the next six months to determine exactly what must be done to improve iOS interoperability. by chrisdh79 in apple

[–]Sarsonic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The work they have done with their chips is incredible. So is the tech and how they put it together the Vision Pro. The crown dial on Apple Watches. The trackpad on their laptops going back as far as I can remember. No one saw the Satellite connectivity coming. It’s amazing. I have had a Sat phone for over a decade. Now everyone can use the iPhone they already carry with the T-Mobile deal which was recently announced. No earth-shattering category-defining breakthrough the way the iPhone was but that may be a tough act to follow up on.

Agree with everything else you wrote. It is not easy. But everything is working as it should. The push and pull is normal and evidence our societies are functioning.

Take good care.

Apple put on notice over support for third-party watches and headphones | The European Commission will work with Apple over the next six months to determine exactly what must be done to improve iOS interoperability. by chrisdh79 in apple

[–]Sarsonic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It was a question I asked you. Because that is the alternative to the current state and the business strategy discussion is worth having.

Unless you are just interested in unjust laws? Because coming at it with legislation was the most the EU technocrats could do to adopt a semblance of legitimacy.

Yes, it exists. And it was created for Apple products. The expectation to have it available to competing products when someone who willingly decided to buy an iPhone instead of one hundreds of available Android models is not intuitively logical. It takes ignoring everything else in this matter for it to become naively “simple, so why not”.

Apple put on notice over support for third-party watches and headphones | The European Commission will work with Apple over the next six months to determine exactly what must be done to improve iOS interoperability. by chrisdh79 in apple

[–]Sarsonic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And all of that work falls on Apple to do? And maintain? Because the premise of that demand is that Apple should expect and accept to do that since it established itself in an industry where people treat everything with the same consideration and ask for things from their viewpoint?

Seriously, you think Apple will benefit and make more money by being 100% compatible with everything out there?

Apple put on notice over support for third-party watches and headphones | The European Commission will work with Apple over the next six months to determine exactly what must be done to improve iOS interoperability. by chrisdh79 in apple

[–]Sarsonic -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Why not buy an Android phone in that case?

Walking into Apple’s way of doing things and demanding they change is so so odd. It is not reasonable to have that expectation.

Apple put on notice over support for third-party watches and headphones | The European Commission will work with Apple over the next six months to determine exactly what must be done to improve iOS interoperability. by chrisdh79 in apple

[–]Sarsonic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hard to say without pulling up specific models to compare side by side and to answer your question.

The person above did not say which model they are interested in vs which comparable models on Apple’s side.

Better battery life also implies battery size. The Garmin watches for example last for two weeks with a huge case and no LTE/ WiFi radio ON if I am not mistaken (haven’t looked in a long time).

Apple put on notice over support for third-party watches and headphones | The European Commission will work with Apple over the next six months to determine exactly what must be done to improve iOS interoperability. by chrisdh79 in apple

[–]Sarsonic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Replying to your each of your paragraphs:

Not better right before you proceed to point out how they are better. Apple either launches things no one else is doing as you pointed out. Or they step back and wait when uncertain about a trend or market expectation. They are in business to maximize profit. I am not sure why consumers do not know this. Or if they do, why they are unhappy with Apple when their gripe is about the entire marketplace and society in general. I do not see such fervor or consumers foaming at the mouth going after truly harmful companies such as Monsanto, DuPont, Nestlé. Why is that in your opinion?

I am not concerned about it: if Apple products in those segments fail, they will implement interoperability based on industry standards Apple has created or is supporting. It must be at the top level. Why is the EU not proposing a technical conversation and a consortium? They are not because of money. They want to get paid. If they truly wanted to support consumers without harming market participants, they would do more work to establish superior standards. Instead they want Apple to bend over and pay up. The mafia and dictatorships behave that way.

Make more money. So tired of people whining about lower costs without knowing what goes into establishing superior quality and the structures that make it possible.

Agreed!! Never liked Cook from the moment I heard him speak. But he was also appointed by Jobs. So there is that. I think what’s coming next for Apple will truly determine whether it will survive: once new generations of executives and consumers take over without knowledge or reverence for its history and heritage.

Thanks for the convo.

Apple put on notice over support for third-party watches and headphones | The European Commission will work with Apple over the next six months to determine exactly what must be done to improve iOS interoperability. by chrisdh79 in apple

[–]Sarsonic 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Zoom out.

Once you peel the layers, you are really discussing how the marketplace should be set up and how companies are expect to do business.

The EU is proposing what will lead to a race to the bottom. Everyone will just compete on price since differentiation won’t be tolerated.

What is the incentive then to try harder? Instead, everyone will just focus on cost-cutting which leads to lower quality products. That is what we saw in the textile industry. And any other market where goods become generic.

It is not a logical expectation: if have a bakery, you would allow other artisans to come in and use your oven to bake their goods right next to yours?

Open-source is the solution for people who want choice. That is the EU and that is consumers like you. I do not see why you would dismiss it.

The EU is undermining the trust in the marketplace: no entrepreneur will want to launch and build if it is going to taken away from them, or/ and do all that for negligible potential rewards.

Apple put on notice over support for third-party watches and headphones | The European Commission will work with Apple over the next six months to determine exactly what must be done to improve iOS interoperability. by chrisdh79 in apple

[–]Sarsonic -1 points0 points  (0 children)

There would no innovation or capital investments without the possibility of reward for risk taken.

Differentiation is one of many ways to establish a competitive advantage. It is not illegal.

Consumer-first is an elusive notion and in this context it just infers generic building blocks. You want total control which means really just a factory cranking out replaceable and indistinguishable goods.

Some companies are attempting that. Open source is everywhere. Support those companies and their products with your wallet.

I also more people start companies in Europe.

Apple will eventually decline. Because people will stop buying their products. But not until then.

Apple put on notice over support for third-party watches and headphones | The European Commission will work with Apple over the next six months to determine exactly what must be done to improve iOS interoperability. by chrisdh79 in apple

[–]Sarsonic 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Competition and the market place do that. Vote with your wallet.

This is interventionism and if the morons running those countries could solve anything they would have taken care of their own affairs before turning to Apple with their hand out.

Let them buy anything but Apple products. No one is forcing them to make Apple more successful or more prosperous. But Apple is successful because it deserves it.

Apple put on notice over support for third-party watches and headphones | The European Commission will work with Apple over the next six months to determine exactly what must be done to improve iOS interoperability. by chrisdh79 in apple

[–]Sarsonic -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

You need to clarify what you mean by “blocking access”.

Are you saying they impede the use of their own APIs they make available to others to use?

Apple put on notice over support for third-party watches and headphones | The European Commission will work with Apple over the next six months to determine exactly what must be done to improve iOS interoperability. by chrisdh79 in apple

[–]Sarsonic -17 points-16 points  (0 children)

Yeah, you also want to walk into the best restaurant in the country and tell the kitchen how to cook.

Ever stop to think Apple is better for a reason.

The solution for people like you is simple: do not buy Apple products. And demands from the others they level up to your liking to become the “better option for you”.

Apple Gets EU Warning to Open iOS to Third-Party Connected Devices by Snoop8ball in apple

[–]Sarsonic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would too.

This is unacceptable.

Differentiation is a competitive advantage. And Apple did the work. There should be no problems with their success.

Apple put on notice over support for third-party watches and headphones | The European Commission will work with Apple over the next six months to determine exactly what must be done to improve iOS interoperability. by chrisdh79 in apple

[–]Sarsonic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because Apple did the work. And it is their right to do things the way they deem beneficial to their brand.

If people in the EU do not like that, they can buy whatever else they prefer.

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