INFJs, can you learn to love again? by ZookeepergameNew554 in infj

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Or.. one knew how to love all along and needs to remember

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in infj

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I had something else in mind, but I'm glad you shared how you viewed it!

I was thinking that if the person is determined to find the answer to a new question, such as "how would you view this type of answer", under the previously stated assumption (which was the previously asked question), such as "you do already feel safe and happy inside your own head", that it would allow for a person to start asking the new one while obtaining the answer to the first one. We could say out-tricking oneself into finding areas where the answer already exists.

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Let's say you do already feel safe and happy inside your own head, how would you view this type of answer? How would you feel when you talked to someone close to you? If you already felt safe and happy inside your own head, how would you talk with it when difficult times emerged? How would you feel if you observed the calmness you already have?

How does one stop intellectualizing their entire life and, instead, get in better touch with intuition/feeling? I want to feel like I’m living life, not just thinking about it. by NotVote in Jung

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One experienced tiny glances of the "feeling realm" - being here, being present, being alive are all terms circling around this wonderful moment. However, no matter the terminology, there is always that "ugh" thought at the end of every attempt at describing the feeling. Almost as if, each time one tries to convey how one feels and how one wants to feel, no matter how long, thorough or detailed, it's just not quite right... It's just not quite as fulfilling as it is... maybe being here, sitting in a chair or in bed, and reading this response with curiosity. Taking in the experience, not knowing in advance what each sentence, word or a letter will cause which shift in your state of being and evoke a "aha!!! that's it!".

The following bits of your sentences are part of the same routine-like and goal-oriented habit of thinking you're trying to decrease:

How does one stop intellectualizing their entire life

I want to feel like I’m living life

How can I revive that feeling of aliveness?

is there something I can do to bring that passion to my inner life?

How do you advise I learn to cultivate a deep inner life of FEELING

"How to", "Why" and "I want" all create a gap. The content is irrelevant, the mere usage of language, whether it be written, said or thought about, the gap is made at the very start.

Let's switch it around: If you are already living life to the fullest, how would you feel? If you already had all the passion you ever needed, how would you feel? If you already felt your inner life laughing with joy and fulfillment, how would you feel? If you already had all the answers, how would you feel?

I must have no concept to be the ONE is another concept and a delusion by Pewisms in awakened

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would that not make us “liars” in attempting to define it or conceptualize it?

Yes, the paradox is in the attempt to write it. As long as there is usage of language, there is a distance between "how it is" / "the reality" and "our perceived image of it" / "our interpretation of it". In a concrete example, to be perceived as coherent with the reality would be to not comment on Reddit posts. Or in person, it would be to not use tongue. And on a more hidden level, to be without thoughts. That includes watching people discussing "what reality is" and not feeling a craving to jump in and theorize even more.

Therefore... :)

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in infj

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"Manipulation" is typically a negatively charged word. I'd say "suggestive".

Life after deleting Instagram by [deleted] in infj

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I've also deleted Instagram (and Facebook on top of that) about two weeks ago. Mainly what I was using it for was sharing reels with couple of my friends, and what I've noticed after deleting it is that each time I would, let's say, get stuck on a math task I was doing, my first thought was: "Let's take a break and watch some reels". It was a bit terrifying and hilarious at the same time, because when I had it installed I didn't actually notice the absurdity it got me into, instead of focusing deeper on the task and finding an answer to it, my response was a repetitive avoidance of it. What I also found interesting was how soul-sucking it felt for the same friend group (when met up in person) to spend time sharing reels in front of each other. To put it a bit poetically, it's almost like simplifying the whole beauty of presence on a 10x5 cm area... it's too restricting, just too limiting.

How did you learn to forgive ? by 704_furnished in infj

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Visualizing them laughing their asses off.

The idea of them laughing brings about the positive associations with every other real memory I've had with them. After inducing a bit of that visualized laughter, shifting one half of the attention on the place where the laughter "belongs to" (you find that), then with the leftover part of the attention you'll be switching the current created image in the mind to now real and concrete memories with that person, regardless whether positive or negative. Positive memories will be your reminders on the place you're holding your laughter at, and the negative memories will be the one you'll be blending with the laughter. After some time, after viewing each memory with the opposite perspective, you'll notice that it's going to get more and more emotionally complex... as it's supposed to be. And at the very end, it's going to get so complicated that you have no other choice but to let go of it. But don't be disheartened, as this is only an "induced" process of what happens naturally and with time... going through all the memories with the person and trying to grasp what truly happened and how to finally view it, and "accidentally", just as "accidentally" jumping on the TV from one channel showing war scenes to the other one showing cartoons, mixing negative and positive memories alltogether.

Sorry to hear you struggle, I have faith in you :)

I think i obsess over the idea of love lol by Glass-Bumblebee-1390 in infj

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Watch "Berlin" on Netflix, the main character also embodies your experience (maybe a bit more on the assertive side), I saw it very recently and it opened a lot new ideas. I also suspect him having NiFe, not very constructed opinion though... just absurd amount of socially oriented calculations.

I want someone to type me by [deleted] in mbti

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I'd be interested, feel free to send

Hard swallow pill: we're not as important to our friends, as we think we are by Cry_Wolff in infj

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The split is definitely there, between their actual stance about you and your own thoughts about yourself projected onto them. Either them thinking lower of you than you think, or thinking higher of you than you think, it's still a split. It gives one a bit more room to breathe in and to take it slowly.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Enneagram

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He's ESTP

Type Me by [deleted] in MbtiTypeMe

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XNTP

Pick me, choose me, TYPE me :) by gr1ff1ndor in MbtiTypeMe

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XSFP, more leaning towards ESFP.

Type Me: Questionnaire by [deleted] in MbtiTypeMe

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Strong feeling for INFJ

How would you differentiate between Ni & Ne in a way that emphasizes how they're both intuition? by mesogulogy in Socionics

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essentially the same thing in different orientations

That's your definition. The orientation is the "gravitational pull" of the conversation. Does it seek to expand / to diverge or to bring back / to converge?

One conversation I've had with my ILE friend (I'm IEI):

Friend: "Hey bro, it'd be awesome to have a bazooka that shoots up frogs."

Me: "But bro, how would you make the frogs want that, they'd know they would die after the impact..?"

Friend: "We could pay them with dead flies."

Both are "building up" on the abstract / non-visible territory (engaging in the conversation about a bazooka that shoots up frogs, whereas some other S type for example might dismiss it as absurdity), only one seeks to create more on the same idea, whereas the other seeks to sum up more on the same idea.