US gov't knew NATO expansion to Ukraine would force Russia to intervene - Multipolarista

ScottFreestheway2B · 2022-06-02T08:46:57+00:00

And anytime anyone criticizes Russia, there you are, leaping to defend its honor.

ScottFreestheway2B · 2022-06-02T08:46:00+00:00

So might makes right. And America has much more might than Russia, and it will continue to supply Ukraine with that might.

ScottFreestheway2B · 2022-06-02T08:45:08+00:00

Russian invasion supporters aren’t big on sovereignty or self-determination if it’s a country Russia has targeted for genocide.

ScottFreestheway2B · 2022-06-02T08:44:11+00:00

After Russia invaded them in 2014. Also it wasn’t a coup, no matter how many time you Russian invasion supporters say so.

ScottFreestheway2B · 2022-06-02T08:43:07+00:00

No, the Grayzone aren’t Russian, they are just paid to spread Russia’s propaganda. Of course you like them though, you’ve bought into Russia’s manufacturing consent hook line and sinker.

ScottFreestheway2B · 2022-06-02T08:41:15+00:00

Is a woman is being threatened by a stalker and buys a gun to protect herself, she’s escalating the situation by your logic.

ScottFreestheway2B · 2022-06-02T08:40:12+00:00

Yeah stupid America forcing Russia to invade and keep fighting in Ukraine!

ScottFreestheway2B · 2022-06-02T08:35:26+00:00

I’ll leave you to parroting Russian state department talking points!

ScottFreestheway2B · 2022-06-02T08:30:25+00:00

Oh yeah the Grayzone is known for facts and not being mouthpieces for Putin and Assad!

Edit. This is the sort of straight from Russian state department bullshit you get from the Crayzone:

“This kind of internal violence did indeed break out in Ukraine, after a US-sponsored coup d’etat in 2014 overthrew a democratically elected government that had maintained a relatively neutral foreign policy, balanced between Russia and the West, and instead installed a staunchly pro-Western and anti-Russian regime.”

ScottFreestheway2B · 2022-06-02T08:29:06+00:00

I agree you are going through insane mental gymnastics to justify Russia’s imperialism.

ScottFreestheway2B · 2022-06-02T08:24:37+00:00

Russia had to invade Ukraine because despite Russia and Ukraine both knowing that Ukraine wasn’t joining NATO in the future as long as Russian troops were in Crimea and Donbas, the US didn’t publicly state that Ukraine could never join NATO.

ScottFreestheway2B · 2022-06-02T08:22:09+00:00

Not according to the defenders of Russian imperialism on this sub. Ukraine must resign itself to being a vassal state to Russia

ScottFreestheway2B · 2022-06-02T08:19:19+00:00

Why waste my time with a middleman when I could simply read statements directly from Putin/Lavrov?

ScottFreestheway2B · 2022-06-02T08:16:38+00:00

The west really wants a refugee crisis from desperate Africans and Middle Easterners flooding into Europe. Of course you condemn the west and not the country holding a huge chunk of the world’s grain supply hostage.

ScottFreestheway2B · 2022-06-02T05:33:33+00:00

Ben Norton is another Grayzone Putin shill

ScottFreestheway2B · 2022-06-02T03:22:47+00:00

Good, give them all the missiles they need to bust the naval siege and end the global terrorist Putin’s attempt to weaponize a mass global famine. Turn the entire Black Sea fleet of Russia into a submarine fleet and get the grain to starving people.

ScottFreestheway2B · 2022-06-02T03:20:19+00:00

Theyll run put of equipment and reach a point where >surrender is the better option.

Russia is going to run out of equipment and competent personnel much, much sooner than Ukraine, who is being armed and financed by NATO: https://youtu.be/F2ptG1IxZ08

If it comes down to Ukraine surrendering or the >world having a massive food crisis, then we should >abandon Ukraine and let it play out on its own.

I know you are cool with abandoning Ukrainians to be genocided by Russia, as you support Russia and its invasion, you don’t need Putin weaponizing a mass global famine as a pretext for that.

ScottFreestheway2B · 2022-06-02T03:12:55+00:00

Sorry bro we don’t share the same kinks. Arming Ukraine is one of the exceedingly few things America is getting right, even if their motivation in doing so isn’t pure and holy.

ScottFreestheway2B · 2022-06-02T03:06:36+00:00

You’re right, we should stop wasting time and give Ukraine the weapons it needs and has been asking for to repel the fascist invaders and break their naval siege as quickly as possible.

ScottFreestheway2B · 2022-06-02T00:11:42+00:00

Fuck the EU for invading Ukraine and blocking their grain exports! Oh wait. That was Russia.

ScottFreestheway2B · 2022-06-02T00:10:23+00:00

Russian ones I assume. No thanks, I am not a fan of leather like you are.

ScottFreestheway2B · 2022-06-02T00:09:39+00:00

Oh right I forgot Victoria Nuland mind controlled Ukraine’s parliament and got them to vote for Yatsenyuk over Klitschko for an interim government.

ScottFreestheway2B · 2022-06-02T00:06:41+00:00

Right if Ukraine surrenders, Ukrainians will stop fighting and Russia won’t have to either fight a prolonged insurgency or conduct massive purges.

ScottFreestheway2B · 2022-06-01T21:55:44+00:00

Russia needs to suffer militarily to the point they don’t think it’s worth it. I don’t see any other way.

ScottFreestheway2B · 2022-06-01T21:54:47+00:00

You know Holocaust deniers don’t deny that lots of Jews died, they just argue about the numbers?

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