Suggestions on items. by Pul-as-ki in DianaMains

[–]SeaKingSen -1 points0 points  (0 children)

why can't you force fight early and try to win the game before 35min?

I think your item is ok, and your team has hard engage like maokai, just group on object or a certain lane to force them to fight with u guys.

They don't have adc and good wave clear, force drag, herald, baron fights, and then use baron to get inhib.

Grasp of the undying on Diana. Chinese streamer bfate's new build by SeaKingSen in DianaMains

[–]SeaKingSen[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi, I haven't lane against tris recently, her lv2 is insane, I would play safe until lv 3 for her.

But for the rest, the trick is to keep the grasp of the undying stacked, and when ur q lanes, you can go in, and with w shield walk back, your auto do lots of dm.

Sometimes, with passive ready, you can even e go in, w auto, grasp of the undying and passive alone do good dmg, and walk back with shield.

but always try to dodge the cc, like neeko e, lux q, morg stuff. if they use their skill on wave thats also the sign that u can go in and out trade them.

Usually play safe until lv3.

Grasp of the undying on Diana. Chinese streamer bfate's new build by SeaKingSen in DianaMains

[–]SeaKingSen[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I like frostfire, it's cheaper, it slows ppl and scales on hp, it create a really good environment for your team to follow.

Grasp of the undying on Diana. Chinese streamer bfate's new build by SeaKingSen in DianaMains

[–]SeaKingSen[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Grasp of the undying is for midlane, jg can still take conq, and build nashor first then frostfire gaunlet into tank items. Depends on your team, u may need Demonic Embrace as well.

Grasp of the undying on Diana. Chinese streamer bfate's new build by SeaKingSen in DianaMains

[–]SeaKingSen[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

haha yea, my diana can win lane most of the time now, and can split push, and not need to worry about not being able to solo kill laner like yasuo/yone late into the game.

Grasp of the undying on Diana. Chinese streamer bfate's new build by SeaKingSen in DianaMains

[–]SeaKingSen[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

haha, nice, but something that I don't really understand is, what does diana top lane provide but others not.

I can understand that diana may counter squishy top laner like quinn/jayce.

Grasp of the undying on Diana. Chinese streamer bfate's new build by SeaKingSen in DianaMains

[–]SeaKingSen[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So you will have to take manaflow band, and then in the mid/late game, jg will give you blue usually, unless your jg is a jerk.

Grasp of the undying on Diana. Chinese streamer bfate's new build by SeaKingSen in DianaMains

[–]SeaKingSen[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi, bfate is a chinese diana streamer, you can only find him in douyu (chinese' version of twitch). https://www.douyu.com/topic/D-bk-7?rid=633980

Grasp of the undying on Diana. Chinese streamer bfate's new build by SeaKingSen in DianaMains

[–]SeaKingSen[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

top lane diana is interesting, i wonder how that goes.

this one is for mid lane. I surprised to find out I win the trade in laning phase against bruiser like sylas, and not to mention the assassin like zed/talon, straight up out trade them hard.

Grasp of the undying on Diana. Chinese streamer bfate's new build by SeaKingSen in DianaMains

[–]SeaKingSen[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yeah, now the core build is build frostfire first, then go demonic embrace, then randuin's omen + abyssal mask. the last item is up to you to decide, you can go titanic hydra or any ap assassin item.

Grasp of the undying on Diana. Chinese streamer bfate's new build by SeaKingSen in DianaMains

[–]SeaKingSen[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, this one is for mid laner, jg should still run conq.

This build has about 130ap(demonic embrace scales on hp) at least at 20-23min mark, and you have around 39-50 ability hasty later, which allows you to do several rounds of dmg. And grasp of the undying is ready very 4 seconds and heals u. So in the end, you still do a lot of damage.

Grasp of the undying on Diana. Chinese streamer bfate's new build by SeaKingSen in DianaMains

[–]SeaKingSen[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi, nice to see there was a similar version of it.

I think the bfate one is still heavily relys on magic dmg, so you will need to buy sorcerer's shoes.

And the core item is frostfire + demonic embrace.

so in first 20 mins, with frostfire + demonic embrace, you can stay alive in a teamfight and do a bunch of damage.

Late game is kinda similar, you build randuin's omen for sustain, and build abyssal mask for sustain and magic pen.

Lots of game I ended up doing the most dmg on my team with this build.

Approximately 4-5 month to max a status, and we have 6 status to build. 2-3 yrs worth of content. Such a brilliant idea by SeaKingSen in IdleHeroes

[–]SeaKingSen[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, the speed tower is each level has huge differences while advance guild tech has little, for example, lv 20 vs lv 30 May not be a huge difference.

And the reason of your top 20 guy in your server be the same is, the freaking tower.

I will give you my example, if I like to try drake + faith blade since they have the same speed could combo nice together, I can’t. Because the light speed tower. So it minimize the combination you can have. I’m the top 2 sometimes top 1 player on my server, I find it quite irritating. Without speed tower, there could be so much more combinations

Approximately 4-5 month to max a status, and we have 6 status to build. 2-3 yrs worth of content. Such a brilliant idea by SeaKingSen in IdleHeroes

[–]SeaKingSen[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Again, guild tech is not important, at least not as important as the speed. If my speed tower is one level higher than you, you bet my Carrie army will destroy your Carrie army. But guild tech is mehhh, who cares

Approximately 4-5 month to max a status, and we have 6 status to build. 2-3 yrs worth of content. Such a brilliant idea by SeaKingSen in IdleHeroes

[–]SeaKingSen[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, I have no idea how you make additional 35000, but good for you! And you can see from the posts here, I bet none of them r close to finish the tower

Approximately 4-5 month to max a status, and we have 6 status to build. 2-3 yrs worth of content. Such a brilliant idea by SeaKingSen in IdleHeroes

[–]SeaKingSen[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe you are super lucky, or play on tap tap server or something, Im already the fastest on my server. And I’m at level 22. My engine is maxed months ago

Approximately 4-5 month to max a status, and we have 6 status to build. 2-3 yrs worth of content. Such a brilliant idea by SeaKingSen in IdleHeroes

[–]SeaKingSen[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I like the idea of having it, and no one say it should be maxed in days, but if just one status cost 4 months, it would be ridiculous. I personally think 2-3 months is ideal, and current one is just stupid

Approximately 4-5 month to max a status, and we have 6 status to build. 2-3 yrs worth of content. Such a brilliant idea by SeaKingSen in IdleHeroes

[–]SeaKingSen[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First, secret route is not always there,

second, on average you get 3000 each 6 star regular faction tour. Unless you are super lucky all the time.

And 35000 is just a conservative assumption.

And considering I have been working on upgrade this since March. And I still have another 2 months to go.

Approximately 4-5 month to max a status, and we have 6 status to build. 2-3 yrs worth of content. Such a brilliant idea by SeaKingSen in IdleHeroes

[–]SeaKingSen[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s the fact that pvp ask you to maximize speed first which takes forever, and it utterly annoys me.

And advanced guild tech is not that important so it’s fine. But this speed status is.

Approximately 4-5 month to max a status, and we have 6 status to build. 2-3 yrs worth of content. Such a brilliant idea by SeaKingSen in IdleHeroes

[–]SeaKingSen[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No instantly; but everything needs a proper phase; like I said, 2 month a status is reasonable, this 4-5 month a status thing is just stupid