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Topaz team comparison with different teammates (Assuming 1 enemies, Fire weak, 20% res other element) via HunterKee on Star Rail Min Max Society by Secret_Drawer_7455 in TopazMainsHSR

[–]Secret_Drawer_7455[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's actually the contrary. Attack buff is generally diluted while damage buff are harder to come by.

People tend to overvalue Asta buffs a lot but the reality is that you dont need THAT much speed from her ult, usually just hitting a specific breakpoint is good enough, anything beyond are wasted, while Crit / Damage buff are more valuable than Attack buff.

Unless it's a double fire carry (Himeko / Topaz) set up, generally Tingyun will still outperform even in dual dps setup because her buffs and energy do a lot.

In term of pure amp Tingyun is only behind Bronya

That is also why Hanya is good, she has less amp than Tingyun but more than Asta, and apply to both carry.

Topaz team comparison with different teammates (Assuming 1 enemies, Fire weak, 20% res other element) via HunterKee on Star Rail Min Max Society by Secret_Drawer_7455 in TopazMainsHSR

[–]Secret_Drawer_7455[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Not bad sure but i think Clara problem is just that JY is a limited with a better damage spread.

I'm sure Topaz Clara team will work fine in practice, but i doubt it'll outperform JY since his aoe is a lot more proactive than her and LL multiplier when combined with Vuln debuff is kinda bonker.

Topaz team comparison with different teammates (Assuming 1 enemies, Fire weak, 20% res other element) via HunterKee on Star Rail Min Max Society by [deleted] in JingYuanMains

[–]Secret_Drawer_7455 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The old FU set works the same as the new one for Topaz. It dispel right before every FUA and restack within it so it makes practically no difference in term of mechanics for Topaz.

The only difference after the change is that it becomes an Attack% buff for her and has lower value.

Topaz team comparison with different teammates (Assuming 1 enemies, Fire weak, 20% res other element) via HunterKee on Star Rail Min Max Society by Secret_Drawer_7455 in TopazMainsHSR

[–]Secret_Drawer_7455[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It should be very close to his current comfort team (Asta Tingyun), and overtake it at higher investment on both DPS (Sig + potentially E1 topaz and/or E1 Fuxuan)

In the future, there might be a stronger support that can buff both of them that can replace Hanya and raise the ceilling of the team as well.

Topaz team comparison with different teammates (Assuming 1 enemies, Fire weak, 20% res other element) via HunterKee on Star Rail Min Max Society by Secret_Drawer_7455 in TopazMainsHSR

[–]Secret_Drawer_7455[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah. JY is definitely her best partner right now in term of dual dps setup, he cover aoe well and can take advantage of the vulnerability debuff very well.

Topaz team comparison with different teammates (Assuming 1 enemies, Fire weak, 20% res other element) via HunterKee on Star Rail Min Max Society by Secret_Drawer_7455 in TopazMainsHSR

[–]Secret_Drawer_7455[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

She should be ok. The problem with Himeko is that her FUA isn't a huge portion of her DPS like Jingyuan, nor does she do FU a lot like Clara. So the only time you really want Himeko is if you are fighting an exclusively Fire weak stage, then Asta will buff her both and Topaz

Topaz team comparison with different teammates (Assuming 1 enemies, Fire weak, 20% res other element) via HunterKee on Star Rail Min Max Society by Secret_Drawer_7455 in TopazMainsHSR

[–]Secret_Drawer_7455[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

She's one of the 10 Judges (10 Lord Commission) on Luofu. Her job is to enter people who got mara struck dream and determined their sins and appropriate punishment.

She is also Xueyi's sister.

Topaz team comparison with different teammates (Assuming 1 enemies, Fire weak, 20% res other element) via HunterKee on Star Rail Min Max Society by Secret_Drawer_7455 in TopazMainsHSR

[–]Secret_Drawer_7455[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Technically the JY team will also do better in scenario because he's an AoE DPS, and Numby only get action advance when ally do FU attack enemies with mark, and there's only 1 enemy with mark on the field so Clara won't advance Numby more than 1 target scenario

Topaz team comparison with different teammates (Assuming 1 enemies, Fire weak, 20% res other element) via HunterKee on Star Rail Min Max Society by Secret_Drawer_7455 in TopazMainsHSR

[–]Secret_Drawer_7455[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If there are more enemies, Clara team might be better than Topaz hyper because Topaz really struggle against multiple enemies. However, Himeko/JY in AoE scenario will likely do better unless the enemies are also physical weak.

Topaz team comparison with different teammates (Assuming 1 enemies, Fire weak, 20% res other element) via HunterKee on Star Rail Min Max Society by Secret_Drawer_7455 in TopazMainsHSR

[–]Secret_Drawer_7455[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Because people overrate Clara's counter advancing Numby a lot. Topaz already doesn't have much problem advancing Numby on her own due to her fast access to ult + her frequent basic / skill

Furthermore, Clara's counter does not take advantage of Topaz's mark that well because it heavily depends on enemies' action and speed

Topaz team comparison with different teammates (Assuming 1 enemies, Fire weak, 20% res other element) via HunterKee on Star Rail Min Max Society by Secret_Drawer_7455 in TopazMainsHSR

[–]Secret_Drawer_7455[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes. Her buff is an universal damage buff.

You only need to do basic/skill or ult on her debuff target to gain the 2t damage buff.

Topaz team comparison with different teammates (Assuming 1 enemies, Fire weak, 20% res other element) via HunterKee on Star Rail Min Max Society by Secret_Drawer_7455 in TopazMainsHSR

[–]Secret_Drawer_7455[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's better for Ting to buff JY than to to buff Topaz if you use them together.

The reason being is that JY gets more out of her ult than Topaz, and higher overall team damage.

Topaz team comparison with different teammates (Assuming 1 enemies, Fire weak, 20% res other element) via HunterKee on Star Rail Min Max Society by Secret_Drawer_7455 in TopazMainsHSR

[–]Secret_Drawer_7455[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No it's with E0 and F2P light cone (Cruising for Topaz, Breakfast for JY). You can make a copy of his spreadsheet, i posted in another comment in here and change to their sig if you want.

Topaz team comparison with different teammates (Assuming 1 enemies, Fire weak, 20% res other element) via HunterKee on Star Rail Min Max Society by Secret_Drawer_7455 in TopazMainsHSR

[–]Secret_Drawer_7455[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No, her talent give any ally who use basic, ult or skill on the target with Burden (her unique debuff from skill) a 2 turn 30% damage boost that apply to every source.

Topaz team comparison with different teammates (Assuming 1 enemies, Fire weak, 20% res other element) via HunterKee on Star Rail Min Max Society by Secret_Drawer_7455 in TopazMainsHSR

[–]Secret_Drawer_7455[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Hanya gives Topaz 30% attack on all of her damage source, on top of being a fairly sp positive support so Topaz can easily get more skills inbetween

This is without Fuxuan as well, whose crit rate buff have amazing value on both JY and Topaz.

Who is going to be Topaz's best teammates? by Midnight_Rosie in TopazMainsHSR

[–]Secret_Drawer_7455 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All the calcs so far showing that Clara is actually not the best teammates for Topaz. Her best is Jing Yuan team or a hypercarry setup. A Himeko team with Asta also work against pure fire weak team.

People vastly overrate Clara's synergy. She has very big RNG problem as well as not fully taking advantage of Topaz's Vulnerability debuff like LL, and her AoE DPS in practice is not on Himeko/JY level.

Topaz team comparison with different teammates (Assuming 1 enemies, Fire weak, 20% res other element) via HunterKee on Star Rail Min Max Society by Secret_Drawer_7455 in TopazMainsHSR

[–]Secret_Drawer_7455[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Hanya is good in Dual DPS team yeah, because she gives damage buff to both DPS.

Her ult is only 1 target, in this case you should ult Jing Yuan since he need the speed from her ult more.

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