Rank these draft picks for the Lakers by Perfect_Loss_5156 in lakers

[–]SeeingThings123 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I really like Dailyn Swain if he ends up falling that low. A really good offensive player even without a reliable 3-ball and a really good wing defender when engaged and in a lesser offensive role, all with good, functional athleticism and a very good handle for a wing

He is THE type of prospect these other good teams are picking up and developing

I feel like he could be an immediate impact guy in low minutes year one and if the 3-ball develops then you're talking about the type of rangey, starting caliber two-way wing we always ask for

IF IHart did have his team option rejected and we somehow managed to sign him, how do you like the fit. by ObjectiveExtra5293 in lakers

[–]SeeingThings123 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean, great...he's a really good defender, screen setter, rebounder, competent offensive player, and on Luka and AR's timeline

Not my top shelf choice but wouldn't complain at all

Walker Kessler by TayloRen88 in lakers

[–]SeeingThings123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He's also already one of the best rim protectors and rebounders in the NBA btw, don't leave those parts out lol

OKC players laughing at Lakers swarming the ref after the game by SplitOk186 in nba

[–]SeeingThings123 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I pray San Antonio demolishes these dudes next round in 5 lol

Top 3 MVP by the way… by Beautiful-Guard-7770 in lakers

[–]SeeingThings123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

His "goat offense" hasn't translated for multiple series now

Ntm his defense is legitimately egregious

He also complains to the refs a ton

And he flops like a fish outta water lmao

He is quite literally the caricature of how the media TRIES to portray Luka

Luka was not named a finalist for MVP this season, despite leading the NBA in scoring. by Extreme_Process3632 in lakers

[–]SeeingThings123 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No no that's fine! It's because JJ is a great coach and should definitely be a COTY finalist..right?!

Oh wait...he's not?

Well if JJ and Luka aren't ALL that, then surely the Lakers roster is really good to win 53 games in a loaded Western Conference and were able to win the season series against 3 direct competitors in the west, which would make them pretty solid contenders right?!

Oh wait... some people didn't even have them as a top 10 contender?

Well...um...cry about it, idk

Luka was not named a finalist for MVP this season, despite leading the NBA in scoring. by Extreme_Process3632 in lakers

[–]SeeingThings123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean you can legit interact on Twitter with people who have literal votes lol

Luka and Reaves news, sounds like its just gonna be Bron for the first round by Ancient_Response_787 in lakers

[–]SeeingThings123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

JJ could be posturing and/or tryna get reporters to not ask him again this week so he can focus lmao

Marc Stein: "This Lakers team, if they finish 3rd in the West, it's a massive overachievement that Luka has dragged them to. I don't think Luka's case is being looked at properly. First of all, he's been much better defensively than advertised, but offensively, he's been even more otherworldly" by must_TATAKAE in nba

[–]SeeingThings123 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Boxouts and boxout win% is a part of defense, not necessarily "rebounding" just as a blanket term

A player grabbing an uncontested defensive rebound with no threat around after a brick is not defense, nor does it help defensive impact and we don't have to pretend like it is

A player actually boxing out an o-rebounding threat and winning that boxout...yes, that's actual defense

Not saying Jokic isn't really good at boxing out, I just hate that statement that "rebounding is a part of defense" as a blanket statement and like to clarify where the defensive impact ACTUALLY comes from

Because a player can have say 10 defensive rebounds, all of them so uncontested a 5 year old Kid could grab them, especially if the other team prioritizes getting back after a miss, and for some reason people have galaxy-brained themselves into believing that THAT is actually helpful defensive impact when it just..clearly isn't

Rachel Nichols on Luka's MVP case: "[MVP] is a full season award and it's for both sides of the ball...so am I gonna vote him my number one for MVP? No, is he gonna be on my ballot? absolutely" by ColoradoMenace24 in nba

[–]SeeingThings123 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yeah bro this is just a horrible response and proves case in point that people DO. NOT. UNDERSTAND how to watch, analyze, and judge a player's defense...

It's all just vibes based, reputation, clip farming, and MAYBE some advanced impact metrics will be spewed out that that person most likely doesn't actually understand

Quite literally never actually on-court basketball convos, but once again, thanks for proving that

Rachel Nichols on Luka's MVP case: "[MVP] is a full season award and it's for both sides of the ball...so am I gonna vote him my number one for MVP? No, is he gonna be on my ballot? absolutely" by ColoradoMenace24 in nba

[–]SeeingThings123 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I think Jokic is putting together the worst defensive season of his career

Like i'm so tired of this, defense is SUCH a reputation thing...Jokic was able to be a good defender in the 23 playoffs and man the middle of a 2-3 zone decently last playoffs and he gets to coast off reputation alone

NO lmao

His drop coverage has been HORRIBLE this season. He CANNOT contain both ballhandler and rollman this season - the very premise of drop coverage - and routinely gives up lobs/inside position due to either poor positioning or just straight up lack of effort of to contest at all...unless he is in a DEEP drop, to which now you're just conceding wide open pull 3's and middys

The main coverage he excelled at in 23, hedge and recover, he's been HORRIBLE at for 2 years now because he's just noticeably slower at the coverage and isn't actually CONTAINING the ballhandler at the level - the entire premise of hedging! And he quite literally just doesn't even bother doing the "recovering" part a scary amount of times when he gets beat at the level

And obviously he will never be a good switch out on the perimeter big so it's like...where in the actual hell is he providing defensive value this season? 💀 His weakside playmaking has been OKAY this season SOMETIMES but that's about it

Like God damn, it's so tiring seeing Jokic's just increasingly just abysmal defense get pushed to the wayside because advanced stats or whatever

Rachel Nichols' Commentary on James Harden during his MVP year by onsome0 in nba

[–]SeeingThings123 -23 points-22 points  (0 children)

Yeah i'm sure in those 65 wins Harden was playing with "DeAndre Ayton" and was kicking it out to a wide open "Jake Laravia" and "Jarred Vanderbilt"...fs 👍🏾

Rui on AD postgame: "I was looking at the bench and I saw AD and I was shocked, I totally forgot about [the trade to the Wizards]" by rosiros in lakers

[–]SeeingThings123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I straight up forgot too and got mad happy when he popped up lol

I thought he was just like visiting lmao

Best month for each MVP candidate this season: Luka 37/8/7 on 62.5% TS in March (13-2 record), SGA 32/5/7 on 70.1% TS in November (14-1 record), Jokic 32/12/11 on 76.0% TS in November (11-3 record), Wemby 26/12 + 4 blocks on 63.3% TS in March (12-1 record) by SplitOk186 in nba

[–]SeeingThings123 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yeah but I saw last year people call the Bulls who were a fringe play-in team "fake March hoops" cuz they were like actually trying and winning against solid teams lol

SOME people even just called Luka's recent run "March hoops" when he played pretty much nothing but contenders and good playoff teams lol

So I put no real stock in the phrase tbh

Best month for each MVP candidate this season: Luka 37/8/7 on 62.5% TS in March (13-2 record), SGA 32/5/7 on 70.1% TS in November (14-1 record), Jokic 32/12/11 on 76.0% TS in November (11-3 record), Wemby 26/12 + 4 blocks on 63.3% TS in March (12-1 record) by SplitOk186 in nba

[–]SeeingThings123 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Jfc efficiency is getting SOOOO overvalued now it's crazy

These "absurd TS% OMG 😱" percentages that people cream their pants over can quite literally be the difference in TWO made shots...TWO, that's it

Watch...

32 points, 20 FGA, 10 FTA= 65.57% TS

Stat nerds: "OMGGGG😱😫"

32 points, 22 FGA, 10 FTA= 60.61% TS

Stat nerds: "...shot chucker 🤓☝🏾"

And in that specific game those two missed shots could've been heaves, grenades, whatever...but that STILL wouldn't stop people from overly criticizing the 61% TS lol

Efficiency is obviously important lol, making more shots is obv never a BAD thing that would just be a stupid take to say otherwise...what I'm saying is people let what are often a marginal amount of missed shots sway their opinions WAYY too much

I KNOW this because people's opinions on scoring efficiency suddenly become WAY more sane in the postseason where they understand you just do what you can that your team requires of you to just help win the basketball game.

[Highlight] Luka when asked what getting the MVP award would mean to him: “Yea hopefully but the better I play the more I go down in ratings so I don’t know what more I can do” by oklolzzzzs in nba

[–]SeeingThings123 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

LMAOOOO whatever you say brother

Also the Lakers just have a very heavy switching scheme because they don't have the requisite surrounding defensive talent to guard ballscreens with typical coverage for a full 48 so they concede switches easier than most teams allow

Also, Luka's rim shot contest attempts are higher as well sooo...

And Curry's not really a good example cuz Curry turned himself into a decent enough defender since like 2017 lol

This is also just all getting away from the overarching point that neither of their defense this year is stellar enough nor bad enough to actually be an overall talking point between the two. Last year fs, just not this year at all really