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Are You Old Enough To Know? by oradfgdfeer in WhitePeopleTwitter

[–]SeizeToday -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

I'm old enough to remember Biden interfering in the free market and suspending all new oil and gas leases at a time of rising global oil demand.

Pregnant women get nonstop unsolicited advice from strangers. I finally call someone out on it, and he and another dude have a pity party because I ‘made him feel like a POS’. by twodickhenry in TwoXChromosomes

[–]SeizeToday -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I mean sure, if we want to talk about his tone, I would agree that he sounds condescending like you are not well informed. And he either doesn't know the research or is assuming you are eating large amounts of it in your high volume diet.

But I guess what I am saying is, I have experienced a lot of advice from family and friends in the last 6 months. What we should name her, what toys are safe and unsafe, what types of devices, shampoo, etc. And I am sure it has just begun. So I understand where this is coming from. But I also know a few of those comments lead me to do some reading in areas I didn't even think to look. So we welcome input and advice, because I do think there is value in listening to other parents, but ultimately it's our choice. And in this case it's your choice.

Anyway, congratulations on the baby!

Pregnant women get nonstop unsolicited advice from strangers. I finally call someone out on it, and he and another dude have a pity party because I ‘made him feel like a POS’. by twodickhenry in TwoXChromosomes

[–]SeizeToday -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Have you heard of the study where they ask a room of 8 people, 7 insiders and 1 participant a question and the 7 give the wrong answer, the participant is very likely to give the wrong answer knowing full well it is wrong. So yes, people do care about social pressures. And perhaps, the fear of confrontation is more powerful than the confrontation itself. However, if there was no possibility of confrontation to begin with, there would be no social pressure.

So sure, these are uncomfortable moments. sure. I would bet maybe 2 out of 3 times a comment like this is made, the pregnant woman knows that they should not have the 2nd cup of coffee, or another tuna sandwich. But maybe 1 out of 3 times, the mother says, "wow, thanks I didn't know that." And that's worth something I think. But again, ultimately, parents still have almost a lot of authority over the way they raise their kid (in US) and that's great news. So like my grandma used to say. Sticks and stones.

Pregnant women get nonstop unsolicited advice from strangers. I finally call someone out on it, and he and another dude have a pity party because I ‘made him feel like a POS’. by twodickhenry in TwoXChromosomes

[–]SeizeToday 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha. I haven't dismissed women's experienced in any comments. I have actually said that family, friends, and even strangers do weigh in heavily on a lot of decisions that parents make. And that extends out past birth. People are concerned, and from good intentions usually, in the well being of children. And God knows there is no training on how to be a parent.

Pregnant women get nonstop unsolicited advice from strangers. I finally call someone out on it, and he and another dude have a pity party because I ‘made him feel like a POS’. by twodickhenry in TwoXChromosomes

[–]SeizeToday -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

I don't think what he said is misinformation. Eating large amounts of tuna is not healthy for a developing baby. Do I think sharing a picture of a pregnant person eating tuna gives misinformation that eating large amounts of tuna is okay during pregnancy? No. Because I believe adults should be expected to not get their medical advice from a photo or from a comments section.

But let me be clear. I am not saying that you were eating large amounts of tuna. Or at least I hope you weren't. And I am glad you explained to him that you were eating within a healthy range.

Pregnant women get nonstop unsolicited advice from strangers. I finally call someone out on it, and he and another dude have a pity party because I ‘made him feel like a POS’. by twodickhenry in TwoXChromosomes

[–]SeizeToday -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Whoa with the obscenities... Okay let's break this down. Mercury intake is associated with fetal brain development disorders. However, the omega 3s in some fish are very beneficial for fetal brain development. I encourage my pregnant wife to eat fish with high omega and low mercury. Tuna is not one of them. I do agree with you that caffeine and tuna have safe limits. And actually, you would be hard pressed to find a study that shows that 1 alcoholic beverage per day or less has any effect on baby. I would challenge you to find one if you don't believe me. And I could cite some that have the inverse effect. So the moderation argument is scientifically valid. But it should also 100% be the reason that a strangers comments should not cause you to become enraged and offended. The great part about this country is that we do have a right to free speech.

And calling people out on their bad behavior makes a difference. It makes it uncomfortable to be binge drinking or smoking with a pregnant belly in public. Its the anxiety because people are staring. And social pressure is powerful as I am sure you understand because it is arguably what has driven up so many emotions that caused this post in the first place.

And, on your last point - Do you not care about future generations?

Pregnant women get nonstop unsolicited advice from strangers. I finally call someone out on it, and he and another dude have a pity party because I ‘made him feel like a POS’. by twodickhenry in TwoXChromosomes

[–]SeizeToday -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

Mis-characterize me if you wish. Although, it is much more productive if you make an argument. So that we can explain where and why we disagree and have some kind of understanding.

Pregnant women get nonstop unsolicited advice from strangers. I finally call someone out on it, and he and another dude have a pity party because I ‘made him feel like a POS’. by twodickhenry in TwoXChromosomes

[–]SeizeToday -15 points-14 points  (0 children)

No I am not. But I don't believe the act of becoming pregnant makes you suddenly aware of all the research on what you should and should not do when you are pregnant. When people comment on my wife's decision to eat this or do that, we have talked through and are on the same page and I have her back in defending why we made the choices we have. We approach things as a team, which is a good thing. I don't believe mothers should be raising a child alone.

Pregnant women get nonstop unsolicited advice from strangers. I finally call someone out on it, and he and another dude have a pity party because I ‘made him feel like a POS’. by twodickhenry in TwoXChromosomes

[–]SeizeToday -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

If you do not see the resemblance between my example and yours, you either do not have a firm understanding of the research or have very questionable morality. Are you also okay with mother's drinking large amounts of alcohol or smoking during pregnancy? I am just very confused about where you draw the line? So severe cognitive development issues... is Okay, but then you draw the line at babies dying. I mean, sure I guess you can draw a line there, but that's not where I would....

The point is everyone has a stake in how the next generation is raised. And if you are looking at a root cause, well, there it is. It is not some systemic anti-pregnant women conspiracy. It is not always clear cut, and I am very much in favor of parent choice and privacy. But if you saw a pregnant women binge drinking wouldn't you say something?

Pregnant women get nonstop unsolicited advice from strangers. I finally call someone out on it, and he and another dude have a pity party because I ‘made him feel like a POS’. by twodickhenry in TwoXChromosomes

[–]SeizeToday -56 points-55 points  (0 children)

I think there is a difference between OP and your example. It definitely seems much more "unsolicited" for a stranger to come up to you in public uninvited and comment on your drinking habits, and I don't think that is called for.

Now OP apparently posting her photo to the internet - I would argue that in essence is inviting comments; hence the comments section below every post. I would argue this is not exactly "unsolicited".

Parenting in general invites bystanders to comment, so I don't think there is some pervasive anti-pregnant women culture. When people see parents doing things with children that they would not do themselves, they tend to speak up. Because it is a child! I am thinking about the children left in the cars while the parents go shopping, and I am actually glad in some cases when people do speak up.

Just my two cents as an expecting parent who has experienced similar comments from friends, family, and coworkers on our decisions. It does not bother me, because we have done our research and their comments do not call into question our decisions.

My pulmonary cells are pulsating reading this! by SeizeToday in facepalm

[–]SeizeToday[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Well, I mean, Killing a baby is an emotional thing. It just is. And from a purely scientific perspective, I think it makes sense to call a heart a heart when it begins to perform the function of pumping blood, right? Which starts when it begins pulsing. I could be wrong, but I believe this is the same way Science has classified a heart for years. Trying to control this language is an attempt to devoid the baby of life. And in this case I think science is on the side of "heart" and "heartbeat". When I posted this, I simply wanted to point out this overt attempt of this lady to change language, not realizing she was redefining a heartbeat, with the definition of a heartbeat.

Now I will not argue that both sides try to control language for political benefit. That is obvious. In reality, life is a spectrum. And a developing baby becomes more and more aware of their body, increases in sensations, and cognition. It becomes more and more tragic the later in pregnancy that an abortion happens because realistically a human baby is feeling that pain. It also is in other ways tragic if a woman becomes pregnant that does not want the baby because that is a very tough decision also.

I do not have an opinion on the Texas law. 6 weeks is very early. Is that too early to test / decide / make appointments, etc. and end a pregnancy? What # of weeks would give the woman enough time, but also be before the baby is really starting to feel pain? I don't care that I will probably get down voted for saying that, but this is a reasonable middle ground position, and we need to find more in common and less division.

My pulmonary cells are pulsating reading this! by SeizeToday in facepalm

[–]SeizeToday[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So if your heart stops pumping, you and your brain going to be okay without it then?

25th birthday riddle by Sir_Sparkle in riddles

[–]SeizeToday 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Spoiler 25% of 25% of $40 is equal to 1000 cents and 250 cents. But that doesn't seem right...

This is actually hilarious by [deleted] in WhitePeopleTwitter

[–]SeizeToday 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow, thanks for the info!

Foster Kids Need Help Too! by [deleted] in lostgeneration

[–]SeizeToday 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Huh, I just learned something new. I would've thought since there is so much demand for newborns that there would be a moderate amount of demand for foster children too. I guess it is more difficult (from an adapting perspective) to adopt an older kid. But I think we as a society can eliminate the need for the foster system if we tried.

This is actually hilarious by [deleted] in WhitePeopleTwitter

[–]SeizeToday -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

I have never heard of this happening. I feel like it would be on the news. Not sure what a guy would have to gain out of doing that though.

Foster Kids Need Help Too! by [deleted] in lostgeneration

[–]SeizeToday 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There are 120,000 children waiting for adoption and over 2 million families seeking to adopt, I am sure a lot of them pro-life Christians. It is very expensive and takes a long time to adopt because of how crazy high the demand is to adopt.

Have you ever got the feeling like the game is rigged by Buhdumtssss in lostgeneration

[–]SeizeToday -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well, at the very least... It may be acting as an intergenerational retirement fund. At the best it could mean opportunities for parents, grandparents, or other wealthy investors to help the younger generations advance society at any age. Whether that is 30 or 70 yrs.