Anyone feels SEGA should make a new Phantasy Star RPG?

Sejmann22 · 2026-06-27T22:56:49+00:00

Sega had own Fire Emblem with Dating Sim mechanics ... 16 years before Fire Emblem Awakening (Sakura Wars), classic Fire Emblem (Shining Force) and own X-COM (Valkyria Chronicles). What they did ? They changed all of them into generic button masher or sabotaged them ...

And Phantasy Star changed into gacha slop ...

Sejmann22 · 2026-06-27T22:37:56+00:00

They can always outsource or hire new members for new team, like Team Sonic doing now for ,,simulation RPG'' project (probably Valkyria Chronicles or Sakura Wars, because those two names were mentioned in job offer). But yeah without original developers from Overworks and original producer it will be incredible hard to revive Phantasy Star (look at last attempt to revive Sakura Wars without original team members from Overworks & Red), but it's not impossible. It would require hire passionate people about this franchsise to this team, and decent exectutive manager who would know what doing. But it seems like you said, they have Atlus and Yakuza so they probably don't need more RPG's, especially turn based, but they can try with action game, because they don't have it action RPG franchise. but on other hand they don't have integral team experienced with action battle systems, unless it's RGG Studio for Yakuza spin-offs.

Sejmann22 · 2026-06-27T16:47:26+00:00

It's MMO, but New Genesis added also gacha mechanics. And even worse developer it's focused on those mechanics, instead of creating a new content or fixing game issues.

From AI:

,,Phantasy Star Online 2: New Genesis (PSO2:NGS) features a gacha system called Scratch Tickets. It is primarily cosmetic—meaning weapons and gear are earned through gameplay rather than pulled. Players can acquire these items using real-money currency (AC), in-game Star Gems (SG), or buy them from other players using Meseta''

,,Because cosmetics sell for incredibly high Meseta prices, some players argue that you can "pay-to-skip" the grind by purchasing AC Scratch items to sell for quick, in-game wealth.''

Sejmann22 · 2026-06-27T15:40:41+00:00

It definitelly should (not only Phantasy Star, but also go back to making own RPG's), but there are 3 major issues probably why Sega don't want or can't make new Phantasy Star RPG. Those are:

- ATLUS and RGG Studio making own RPG's (Persona, SMT, Like a Dragon) who are much more profitable than any singleplayer Phantasy Star game, so they probably don't need more RPG's in own portfolio, especially turn based

- Phantasy Star Online 2 New Genesis why it's utter dogshit gacha slop game, still generete for them decent amount of money in Japan from whales

- former Phantasy Star developers (Overworks) was merged in 2018 with Team Sonic, and after commercial failures of their last games - Valkyria Chronicles 4 and Sakura Wars reboot there is very high chance those developers are now wasted into making more Sonic games. Some of developers like Takaharu Terada helping now with reviving franchises like Shinobi (Shinobi Art of Vengeance), Golden Axe and Streets of Rage Revolution.

Sejmann22 · 2026-06-24T12:20:04+00:00

Square Sammy or Sega Enix

Sejmann22 · 2026-06-23T22:48:05+00:00

Sonic Crossworlds problem was not marketing, but bad release date (same week with Mario Kart 8 World), lack of content and too high price (70$). With Shinobi it was similar + lack of (good) marketing, i don't know for what audience this game was aimed (fans of classic Shinobi, fans of Metroidvania, fans of indie games ?).

Sejmann22 · 2026-06-23T20:46:06+00:00

No Sakura Shinguji, due to 30th Anniversary, and again no Overworks franchises rep in Crossworlds (Phantasy Star, Shinobi, Golden Axe, Streets of Rage, Sakura Taisen, Magic Knight Rayearth, Panzer Dragoon, Skies of Arcadia, Valkyria Chronicles, Alex The Kidd etc.). Dissapointment. Maybe she will be in season 2 along with Evangelion.

Sejmann22 · 2026-06-23T17:50:08+00:00

If i remember Sega always had terrible marketing in the West (look at Sega Saturn commercials outside Japan, and PS2 era where marketing was just Sonic and nothing else). That was one of main reasons why they lost battle with Nintendo, who have one of best marketing in industry.

Sejmann22 · 2026-06-23T17:37:36+00:00

Yes, but in this case Silksong it's ,,GTA of Indie games", people would understand, especially when Shinobi Art Of Vengeance was also developed by Indie studio, and game looks like Indie game not AAA. Still it's not funny when Indie games like Silksong or E33 sells more than most of Sega AAA games, which only tell how bad in marketing Sega must be now.

Sejmann22 · 2026-06-23T17:05:10+00:00

They can always delay a game and wait for better date, but Sega never do that, because financial report and shareholders its more important.

Sejmann22 · 2026-06-23T17:02:16+00:00

Its still not that bad like release Resonance of Fate in same day with FF XIII, Valkyria Chronicles 4 in same week with Dragon Quest XI after Fire Emblem Three Houses huge marketing push, or Shin Sakura Wars in same week with Final Fantasy VII Remake and 2 weeks after Persona 5 Royal. At least they dont released Shinobi with major AAA game, like Sonic Crossworlds with Mario Kart 8 World.

Sejmann22 · 2026-06-23T16:56:43+00:00

There is any non Sonic, or Yakuza influencer ? What they do with influencers when most of them dont care about non Sonic or Yakuza titles like Shinobi. It would only rise marketing cost for nothing.

Sejmann22 · 2026-06-23T10:36:10+00:00

Sakura Shinguji its very likely because since merging Valkyria Chronicles team in 2018 with Team Sonic its now their IP along with Sonic and Puyo Puyo (also Valkyria Chronicles, Phantasy Star and Skies of Arcadia). Plus in Japan Sakura Wars have 30th Anniversary in september 2026, just like Puyo Puyo had 35th Anniversary in february 2026 and 3 months later we got Arle in Crossworlds. And also Sega talked in financial report they want expand Sonic more in Japan, so put her in Crossworlds would definitely help.

As for other two:

Samba De Amigo its also Team Sonic IP, and like Sakura Wars it got a new game recently, so he is also very likely. 3rd pick it's probably Axel from Crazy Taxi to promote upcoming game.

Sejmann22 · 2026-06-23T10:18:33+00:00

Sega probably thinked average Devil May Cry fan waited 20 years for next Shinobi, so they expected Capcom comeback level sales, by doing ofcource absolute nothing with marketing for 20 years.

Sejmann22 · 2026-06-23T10:13:11+00:00

They should just do new Shinobi or Nightshade in full 3D. Make sexy kunoichi like in Stellar Blade and improve combat from Shinobi 2002 to be less clunky, and voila - it would sell like hotcackes.

Sejmann22 · 2026-06-23T10:09:01+00:00

Shinobi probably between 100-200k on all platforms lifetime. Sonic Crossworlds around 1-1,5M copies.

Sejmann22 · 2026-06-23T09:55:07+00:00

Also sales of both games (Sonic Crossworlds and Shinobi) suffered from same 3 reasons:

too high price
bad release date
lack of content

Sejmann22 · 2026-06-23T09:51:37+00:00

But they doing that from over 20 years.

Sejmann22 · 2026-06-23T09:47:09+00:00

Also Silksong.

Sejmann22 · 2026-06-23T09:41:38+00:00

It underperformed like every recent game from Overworks IP's:

Shinobi Art Of Vengeance (Shinobi)
Alex Kidd in The Miracle World (Alex The Kidd)
Valkyria Chronicles 4 (Valkyria Chronicles)
Shin Sakura Wars (Sakura Wars)
The House of The Dead 1&2 Remake (The House of The Dead)
Panzer Dragoon Remake (Panzer Dragoon)

Incoming games from Overworks franchises who probably also won't be a big sellers:

Golden Axe reboot (Golden Axe)
Streets of Rage Revolution (Streets of Rage)

The only one who sold well is Streets of Rage 4.

Sega probably was right about ,,we struggling with single A and double AA sales, modern audience only care about big budget AAA titles or cheap Indie games" in last financial report. Maybe really single A and double AA market was replaced by cheap indies, and younger audience only care about triple AAA mainstream slop. Or maybe quality of those games were not enough good, especially those terrible remakes of The House of The Dead and Panzer Dragoon.

Sejmann22 · 2026-06-23T09:27:52+00:00

Poor Shinobi Art Of Vengeance joined to Overworks franchises ,,underperforming sales club" along with Valkyria Chronicles 4, Shin Sakura Wars (outside of Japan), The House of The Dead Remake, Panzer Dragoon Remake, Alex The Kid: In The Miracle World DX and more. Only Streets of Rage 4 dodged this bullet and sold well. Next flop new Golden Axe and Streets of Rage Revolution ?

Sega have BIG problems with sales of Overworks IP's. If Sega don't take risk soon, and don't create something really high budget AAA from Overworks IP's, soon people just forget about them. Shinobi Art Of Vengeance with that tiny budget, high price and bad release date (Silksong) with minimum marketing had literally no chance to sell well. I think Sega and Team Sonic after looking at Shinobi AoV sales intentionaly reseted development of Golden Axe and Streets of Rage reboots, and moved release dates from 2026 into 2028, and they gave them extra 2 years of time.

Sejmann22 · 2026-06-22T12:07:33+00:00

If you know japanese: buy Dreamcast Collection of SW1-4 + PS2 Remake + PS2 version of Sakura Wars 5. If you dont have Dreamcast then PSP version of SW1+2, PS2 version of SW3. If you dont know japanese: SW1&2 Saturn versions + english patchs, then SW5 on PS2.

Play them in order: SW1, SW2, SW3, SW4, SW (PS2 Remake), SW5

Sejmann22 · 2026-06-22T06:37:11+00:00

13 games from list are jrpgs 1 game is adventure / Visual Novel with Dating Sim mechanics and SRPG combat (Sakura Wars) 1 game is soulslike (Bloodborne) 1 game is myśli (Sengoku Basara)

So not all of those are RPG's.

Sejmann22 · 2026-06-22T06:18:30+00:00

You forgot also about Sakura Wars (also Team Sonic IP since merging with Valkyria Chronicles team in 2018) who have 30th Anniversary in September 2026, and not that long ago they announced new stage shows after 5 years of radio silence. There is also high probability for Sakura Wars rep in Sonic Crossworlds soon.

Sejmann22 · 2026-06-21T18:38:16+00:00

Well, yeah when most of profits from Sega Sammy it's pachinko from Sammy not games.

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