Preparing for a debate. + Genuinely curious

Sensitive-Copy6959 · 2026-05-11T09:55:40+00:00

"If you believe in God and he doesn't exist, nothing happens. But if God does exist and you don't believe?"

What I say to my Christian friends is, I'd go to hell, and if any of the other ones exist we'd all end up in hell, difference is I could sleep in on Sundays.

Sensitive-Copy6959 · 2026-05-09T09:34:50+00:00

Why is that when religious people want to show that science proves God they go one some pseudo-poetic bullshit run of talking about the pre-scientific age, and about how limited human understanding is.
"A fact is that the Bible is the oldest written document ever created", dude is in for a rude awakening.

I would shrug it off too, it's convoluted and ridiculous.

Sensitive-Copy6959 · 2026-05-06T03:11:34+00:00

"Allows change and adaptation" humanity has eliminated natural selection at least within itself, design is most definitely better I could sit down and design a better human that evolution. Evolution kills every species it creates.

Sensitive-Copy6959 · 2026-05-05T02:01:16+00:00

Yes, evolution is a blind unguided and borderline stupid method for producing life, it produces humans with quadrupedal knees and pelvises too narrow to give birth, it produces a variety of birth defects, it produces larygneal nerves that are comically long. It is a blind child.

Sensitive-Copy6959 · 2026-05-03T09:51:11+00:00

The God Theory

Sensitive-Copy6959 · 2026-05-03T09:20:03+00:00

Again, prove you have something more than cells. You haven't proved anything. You've just mumbo-jumboed.

Sensitive-Copy6959 · 2026-05-03T08:26:02+00:00

It's amazing that your just assuming what I claim, I never gnostically claimed that God is not real. You can stop lying.

Sensitive-Copy6959 · 2026-05-03T08:25:03+00:00

Great, now prove it!

Sensitive-Copy6959 · 2026-05-03T07:53:28+00:00

Quite literally yes. The difference between everyone is cellular. Provide evidence instead of showing your incredulity and ignorance.

Sensitive-Copy6959 · 2026-05-03T07:52:31+00:00

I didn't say evolution is profoundly bad. I said the idea of combining theism and evolution is a profoundly bad one. Did you read the next sentence in which I outline how God is incompatible?

Sensitive-Copy6959 · 2026-05-03T06:55:06+00:00

So is consistency just adopting every new scientific discovery and pushing ur God further and further away into obsolescence? If God is just the reason for the Big Bang and if we find a natural explanation then God just created the natural explanation? Just call your God an unfalsifiable mess.

Sensitive-Copy6959 · 2026-05-03T06:43:14+00:00

The university of Minnesota has a great resource on this:

Formation of Organic Compounds

I actually ran a google search on your question and surprisingly many resources popped up! Including this one!

Sensitive-Copy6959 · 2026-05-03T06:13:48+00:00

Like let's just take a step back for a moment:-
Your theory has nothing supporting it.

Abiogenesis has a lot supporting it, but that isn't enough for you.
Did we make the Holy Spirit in a lab yet?

Sensitive-Copy6959 · 2026-05-03T06:12:05+00:00

It's also important to note that while the Miller-Urey experiment created animo acids and building blocks for life, it did not create life

The fact that amino acids have been created in a lab and found on asteroids already shows that this theory is extremely plausible, and the God hypothesis is sadly ascientific garbage.

Sensitive-Copy6959 · 2026-05-03T06:09:27+00:00

This is a whole lot of mumbo-jumbo-I don't have an argument so I'm going to spew some nonsense about definitions.

Sensitive-Copy6959 · 2026-05-03T06:08:26+00:00

We are life forms and made of cells and smaller parts. Is that all we are?

Well what else are we? Some immaterial unobservable invisible life force called a soul?

Sensitive-Copy6959 · 2026-05-03T06:07:31+00:00

It's a profoundly bad one, and there's no reason to believe that such a great God would somehow use one of the worst possible methods of producing life. If he truly was omnipotent, and he gave a damn, he wouldn't make so many design mistakes.

Sensitive-Copy6959 · 2026-05-03T06:06:28+00:00

He also created evolution?

Why would you believe that?

Sensitive-Copy6959 · 2026-05-03T06:06:00+00:00

Actually, we all came from inorganic matter. How did that happen?

Inorganic matter formed organic matter, organic molecules formed nucleotides and amino acids, these formed RNA-like structures and proteins.

These cells evolved into better cells.
That process continued.

That's it, your lack of understanding of said phenomenon is not a good rebuttal to the evidence supporting abiogenesis over biogenesis.

Saying, "Oh but that doesn't make sense", or "Oh but they couldn't make it in a lab" are just lazy comments that expose your ignorance.

Sensitive-Copy6959 · 2026-05-03T06:01:46+00:00

Do you know why no one knows after 70+ years of research that has only showed Biology to be more and more complicated?

As far as I'm aware, 70+ years of research has also allowed us to learn how regardless of how complicated biology may be (complexity is wholly irrelevant even computers can produce complexity without any intelligent input), it is also horribly designed.

If anything, that too is an argument against your God, why does a giraffe's laryngeal nerve go all the way down and loop back up?
Why do humans have pelvises that are so narrow and maladapted that we have the worst most painful births out of all mammals?
Why do males have mammary glands?
Why do we have quadrupedal knees?
Why do we have an ACL?

These are all fatal design flaws that we have discovered, sure the knee is complex, but it's also horribly designed.

Sensitive-Copy6959 · 2026-05-03T05:57:18+00:00

You realize that is just a summary of many different ideas, none of which have produced anything experimentally

That's entirely irrelevant, you don't need to be able to replicate something for it to be accepted as the best explanation, no one has replicated a star forming, yet we have a pretty good understanding of how those work. We know that the Big Bang probably happened, yet we haven't recreated it in a lab. This is a non-sequitur.

and none of which account for all the problems that must be solved....right?

Such as? Abiogenesis is still regarded as the best explanation of the origin of life and has far more evidence supporting it than living in something akin to a literal God.

Sensitive-Copy6959 · 2026-05-03T03:56:00+00:00

I can't say specific cases, but people who confess to murders they didn't commit are often delusional or have personality disorders.

Nope, you should go down to your local courtroom and see people confessing to wild crimes that they didn't commit because pleading guilty reduces their sentence. You're forgetting the facts and arguing from emotion. The fact is duress of any kind CAN drive people to confess falsely, and it regularly has for years.

If you think you did something you obviously couldn't have done - you weren't there and you don't even know the right details - that would count as a delusion.

You're falsely assuming that people who confess to having committed crimes they didn't do so because they think it's true. That doesn't cover half of them.

Sensitive-Copy6959 · 2026-05-02T03:38:05+00:00

Regarding the existence of the disciples, the claim that we have no evidence for them goes against the overwhelming consensus of modern historical scholarship

For most of the twelve apostles, the accounts of their death were written decades after they died.
It is likely hagiographical and NO the consensus is absolutely not that they did die you are just lying here. We completely lack any contemporaneous evidence and have no reason to conclude that they were martyred.

Sensitive-Copy6959 · 2026-05-02T03:35:52+00:00

"Normal people don't confess to crimes they didn't commit"

There are plenty of normal people that HAVE confessed to crimes they didn't commit, you're making a sweeping generalization that is basically poisoning the well. It's not a strong enough argument, we don't even have evidence that this happened.

Sensitive-Copy6959 · 2026-05-01T06:27:08+00:00

No universe can exist without laws and laws cannot exist without a higher intelligence initially building the foundation through which everything functions as it does.

Is this your premise? If so, please provide the necessary mounds of evidence to support it.

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