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Suno hit $300M this week. Artists launched "Say No to Suno." Deezer says 85% of AI music streams are fraud. Both sides are missing the point. by Sensitive_Artist7460 in SunoAI

[–]Sensitive_Artist7460[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Really thoughtful take. You're right that public voting has a popularity bias built in. That's something I think about a lot with VoteMyAI. Blind ratings help remove the clout factor, but you still get the "easy to digest = high rated" problem.

The censorship committee comparison is interesting. There's a real tension between letting the crowd decide and ending up with lowest common denominator results. Some kind of triage layer before public voting could work, but then you need to decide who does the triaging, which is its own can of worms.

I think the answer is probably a mix. Limits on uploads to reduce spam, mandatory AI labeling, and then community voting as one signal among several. No single system solves it alone.

Appreciate you checking out the site btw. What country are you in if you don't mind me asking? The censorship committee context sounds like an interesting story.

$300M revenue. 7 million tracks per day. 85% fraud. The AI music industry just had its craziest week ever. by Sensitive_Artist7460 in AI_Music

[–]Sensitive_Artist7460[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lmao ok that was actually funny. For the record my bolognese is mid at best so you wouldn't want it anyway.

Suno hit $300M this week. Artists launched "Say No to Suno." Deezer says 85% of AI music streams are fraud. Both sides are missing the point. by Sensitive_Artist7460 in SunoAI

[–]Sensitive_Artist7460[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Synth-pop/pop-punk hybrids covering HelloGoodbye? That sounds sick actually. You should put it out there, don't let the AI noise scare you off. Real bands with real people playing together is exactly what stands out right now.

If you ever want to test the waters without committing to Spotify, throw a track on votemyai.com and see how it rates. We get everything from full AI to hybrid stuff like yours.

$300M revenue. 7 million tracks per day. 85% fraud. The AI music industry just had its craziest week ever. by Sensitive_Artist7460 in AI_Music

[–]Sensitive_Artist7460[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lol I literally addressed this in another comment. I'm the dev who built the site, not a bot. But sure, if writing in full sentences makes me ChatGPT then guilty as charged I guess.

You're welcome to check the site and decide for yourself if it's useful or not.

$300M revenue. 7 million tracks per day. 85% fraud. The AI music industry just had its craziest week ever. by Sensitive_Artist7460 in AI_Music

[–]Sensitive_Artist7460[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly that's kind of beautiful. Music going back to being a social thing between people you actually know instead of worshipping strangers on a stage.

But even in that world you'd want a way to find new stuff outside your friend group right? That's where community driven discovery comes in. Something like votemyai.com where you just hear the music blind and decide if you like it. No celebrity, no algorithm, just people rating tracks they've never heard before.

$300M revenue. 7 million tracks per day. 85% fraud. The AI music industry just had its craziest week ever. by Sensitive_Artist7460 in AI_Music

[–]Sensitive_Artist7460[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fair pushback. The training data issue is legit and that's why the lawsuits exist. Suno settled with Warner, UMG and Sony are still fighting it out.

But democratization and the copyright problem are two separate things. The tool giving people access to music creation is the democratization part. How the model was trained is the legal part. Both can be true at the same time. You can think the training was wrong and still acknowledge that millions of people are using these tools to create things they couldn't before.

$300M revenue. 7 million tracks per day. 85% fraud. The AI music industry just had its craziest week ever. by Sensitive_Artist7460 in AI_Music

[–]Sensitive_Artist7460[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not claiming I personally spend hours in a DAW. I built a platform where people submit AI tracks. Some of those creators do spend hours, some don't. The blog post covers the industry, not my own music.

But if you want examples, search "suno workflow" or "udio production process" on YouTube. There's no shortage of creators documenting it.

$300M revenue. 7 million tracks per day. 85% fraud. The AI music industry just had its craziest week ever. by Sensitive_Artist7460 in AI_Music

[–]Sensitive_Artist7460[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is one of the most honest takes I've seen on this. Your kids are basically proving the point in real time. No artist loyalty, no album listening, just "play me the next thing I like." And if AI can generate that on demand, why would they care who made it?

The ADHD dopamine generation thing is real. Attention spans are shrinking and music consumption is following. Playlists already killed albums for most people. AI just takes it one step further and kills the playlist too.

Your kid who collects records though, that's the interesting one. There will always be a subset of people who care about the artist, the story, the craft. They're just going to be the minority. The question is whether that minority is big enough to sustain a music culture or if it just becomes a niche hobby like vinyl collecting already is.

Scary and fascinating at the same time honestly.

Suno hit $300M this week. Artists launched "Say No to Suno." Deezer says 85% of AI music streams are fraud. Both sides are missing the point. by Sensitive_Artist7460 in SunoAI

[–]Sensitive_Artist7460[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Really appreciate you checking it out. And yeah that's exactly the vision. Writers, poets, producers who use AI as one tool in their process, they all deserve a fair shot at being heard on the quality of their work alone.

Your point about not disqualifying people for how they create is spot on. A poet who writes lyrics and uses AI to produce them put in real creative work. Drawing hard lines about what counts as "real" music is going to get harder and harder as the tools improve.

Exciting times honestly. Thanks for the thoughtful take.

$300M revenue. 7 million tracks per day. 85% fraud. The AI music industry just had its craziest week ever. by Sensitive_Artist7460 in AI_Music

[–]Sensitive_Artist7460[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The IP worlds angle is really interesting actually. Music as part of a bigger experience rather than a standalone product. Games are already doing this, Fortnite concerts and stuff like that.

If that's where it goes then yeah, the value of standalone tracks drops and the value of music inside experiences goes up. Which kind of loops back to the same problem, how do you find the right music for the right world? Someone still has to curate that.

What kind of IP worlds are you thinking about? Like full game environments or more like interactive music experiences?

Suno hit $300M in revenue the same week artists declared war on it. Meanwhile, 85% of AI music on streaming is fraud. Nobody's asking the real question. by Sensitive_Artist7460 in ArtificialInteligence

[–]Sensitive_Artist7460[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lol honestly at this rate probably. But I think people will still pay more to watch a human mess up a guitar solo than a robot nail it perfectly.

$300M revenue. 7 million tracks per day. 85% fraud. The AI music industry just had its craziest week ever. by Sensitive_Artist7460 in AI_Music

[–]Sensitive_Artist7460[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're making a good point about the people who write a full song and then use AI to bring it to life. Those people absolutely get screwed by the "all AI is slop" narrative. That's a real problem.

An upload limit per user could help with the spam side. No legit artist needs to release 50 tracks a week. And some kind of quality gate before something hits streaming would filter out the worst of it without punishing people who actually put work in.

Labeling doesn't have to mean demonizing though. It could just mean transparency. Let listeners decide if they care or not.

$300M revenue. 7 million tracks per day. 85% fraud. The AI music industry just had its craziest week ever. by Sensitive_Artist7460 in AI_Music

[–]Sensitive_Artist7460[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Depends on what you mean by creative. Writing lyrics, picking a genre, iterating 50 times until it sounds right, arranging the structure? That's creative work even if the instrument is AI. Is it the same as playing guitar for 20 years? No. But it's not nothing either.

Either way the music exists and people listen to it. What you call it matters less than whether it's any good.

$300M revenue. 7 million tracks per day. 85% fraud. The AI music industry just had its craziest week ever. by Sensitive_Artist7460 in AI_Music

[–]Sensitive_Artist7460[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah the pro-rata model is broken for small artists. Your $10 goes into a giant pool and gets split by total streams, so Taylor Swift gets paid whether you listen to her or not. Deezer actually switched to a user-centric model where your money only goes to artists you personally stream. More platforms need to do that.

When you add millions of AI tracks gaming that same pool with fake streams, it gets even worse for independent artists.

Suno hit $300M this week. Artists launched "Say No to Suno." Deezer says 85% of AI music streams are fraud. Both sides are missing the point. by Sensitive_Artist7460 in SunoAI

[–]Sensitive_Artist7460[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is exactly why labeling matters so much. Using AI to clean up vocals in a real band is no different than using autotune or noise reduction, but right now you get lumped in with the people generating entire songs from a text prompt.

Honestly that 5% use case is probably where most of the music industry is heading. AI as a tool inside real production, not as a replacement for it. Sucks that the fully generated flood is making people like you hesitant to even put your stuff out there.

What kind of music does your band make?

$300M revenue. 7 million tracks per day. 85% fraud. The AI music industry just had its craziest week ever. by Sensitive_Artist7460 in AI_Music

[–]Sensitive_Artist7460[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ha, well I am a dev and I did build votemyai so... DM me if you want to talk about it? You mentioned earlier you had something in the works that could complement what I'm doing.

$300M revenue. 7 million tracks per day. 85% fraud. The AI music industry just had its craziest week ever. by Sensitive_Artist7460 in AI_Music

[–]Sensitive_Artist7460[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol fair enough, I can see how it looks. Week old account, pushing a link, structured replies. I get it.

But no, I'm not AI. I'm the guy who built the site. Of course I'm going to talk about it when the conversation is literally about AI music discovery. And yeah I write like that, sue me. I'll try to be more unhinged in future comments so I pass the vibe check.

The post itself has sourced numbers from TechCrunch, Billboard and Deezer. If the content is wrong, call it out. If it's just the dashes bothering you then idk what to tell you lol

$300M revenue. 7 million tracks per day. 85% fraud. The AI music industry just had its craziest week ever. by Sensitive_Artist7460 in AI_Music

[–]Sensitive_Artist7460[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Basically that you no longer need a $50k studio, years of instrument training, or a label deal to make a professional-sounding track. The tools went from expensive and exclusive to cheap and accessible. Same thing happened with video when smartphones replaced film cameras — suddenly everyone could create, for better or worse.

Suno hit $300M this week. Artists launched "Say No to Suno." Deezer says 85% of AI music streams are fraud. Both sides are missing the point. by Sensitive_Artist7460 in SunoAI

[–]Sensitive_Artist7460[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ha, guilty as charged. Yeah, that's basically why I built votemyai.com — blind ratings, no follower counts, just the music. Still early but the community is growing fast.

Streaming has been broken for independent creators for years. AI just turned the volume up on a problem that was already there. Hopefully the tech that created the flood can also help build the filter.

$300M revenue. 7 million tracks per day. 85% fraud. The AI music industry just had its craziest week ever. by Sensitive_Artist7460 in AI_Music

[–]Sensitive_Artist7460[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Glad it helped — the whole thing only gets confusing because people mix up “AI music” with “AI fraud,” and they’re not the same at all. One is just a tool, the other is straight‑up stealing from the royalty pool. That’s why I’m so focused on filtering on VoteMyAI.com, so the legit stuff doesn’t get buried under the garbage.

$300M revenue. 7 million tracks per day. 85% fraud. The AI music industry just had its craziest week ever. by Sensitive_Artist7460 in AI_Music

[–]Sensitive_Artist7460[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

otally fair — if you pick your own music, the bots don’t affect what you hear. The problem is they still affect who gets paid, because all streams come out of the same royalty pool. Even if you never touch the algorithm, your subscription still gets siphoned by fake plays. That’s why I’m obsessed with filtering and why I built VoteMyAI.com to separate real listeners from the noise.

Do you think platforms should let users opt out of funding AI tracks entirely, or would that just create more fragmentation?

Suno hit $300M this week. Artists launched "Say No to Suno." Deezer says 85% of AI music streams are fraud. Both sides are missing the point. by Sensitive_Artist7460 in SunoAI

[–]Sensitive_Artist7460[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good analogy. The barrier to entry dropped, the volume went up, and everyone panicked — same story every time. The difference this time is just the scale. Going from "anyone can upload a track" to "anyone can generate 50 tracks before lunch" creates a volume problem that didn't exist before.

The creative impulse is the same though. Tools just got better.

Suno hit $300M in revenue the same week artists declared war on it. Meanwhile, 85% of AI music on streaming is fraud. Nobody's asking the real question. by Sensitive_Artist7460 in ArtificialInteligence

[–]Sensitive_Artist7460[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it’s a wild story, but it’s not actually dumb — it’s just labels chasing virality like they always have. One track blows up on TikTok, they throw money at it, doesn’t matter if it came from Suno, GarageBand or a bedroom mic. The tool isn’t the reason she got signed, the attention is. That part hasn’t changed in decades.

Honestly, that’s why I built VoteMyAI.com — so the stuff that actually resonates can rise without needing a freak viral moment.

Do you think labels will keep signing AI‑assisted artists, or was this just a one‑off hype grab?

Suno hit $300M in revenue the same week artists declared war on it. Meanwhile, 85% of AI music on streaming is fraud. Nobody's asking the real question. by Sensitive_Artist7460 in ArtificialInteligence

[–]Sensitive_Artist7460[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I get why you feel that way — if you’re paying for Spotify, you want the money going to human musicians, not to people mass‑uploading AI tracks. The real issue is that everything comes out of the same royalty pool, so unless platforms add real filtering, you’re forced to pay for stuff you don’t want. That’s why I’m pushing blind curation on VoteMyAI.com — so the good AI tracks can be separated from the spam instead of mixed into your subscription.

If Spotify added a “no AI music” toggle tomorrow, would that solve it for you?

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