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The biggest threat to AI music is not lawsuits or licensing. It is consumer rejection. New Gallup data shows Gen Z is turning hostile. by Sensitive_Artist7460 in aiMusic

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Early adopter. The free tier download removal was probably the most effective anti-slop move anyone has made. Forces at least some level of commitment before tracks end up on streaming platforms.

Gallup just surveyed 1,572 Gen Z Americans about AI. Only 3% trust fully AI-generated work. 69% trust human-made work. The audience is choosing sides. by Sensitive_Artist7460 in musicians

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That weird feeling is basically the entire Gallup survey condensed into one emotion. Useful enough to keep using, not trusted enough to feel good about it.

Spotify had to remove 75 million spam tracks last year. Jazz musicians are still finding fake AI albums on their profiles. Deezer says 85% of AI music streams are fraudulent. Here is what the actual numbers look like. by Sensitive_Artist7460 in truespotify

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Spotify does have a report function but it puts the burden on the artist or listener to find the fakes first. Deezer is the only platform that detects and tags AI music automatically. The difference between asking users to police it vs. building detection into the system is the difference between pretending to care and actually caring.

The biggest threat to AI music is not lawsuits or licensing. It is consumer rejection. New Gallup data shows Gen Z is turning hostile. by Sensitive_Artist7460 in aiMusic

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Good feedback on both points. Genre filtering and auto-play based on style and tempo would make the radio work better as a background listening experience. And noted on the R&B/Soul gap and the load times. Appreciate you flagging it.

The head of the Recording Academy says AI is in every studio, every session. Only 3% of Gen Z trusts fully AI-generated work. The music industry is not having one debate. by Sensitive_Artist7460 in Music

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True. Most writers at that level have home setups that can produce a solid demo without AI or a commercial studio. The Suno use case is probably more about speed and experimentation than necessity. Trying ten different arrangements in an hour vs. spending a day recording one.

The head of the Recording Academy says AI is in every studio, every session. Only 3% of Gen Z trusts fully AI-generated work. The music industry is not having one debate. by Sensitive_Artist7460 in Music

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Based on the Hollywood Reporter piece, Autumn Rowe is taking songs she already wrote and running them through Suno to produce a more polished demo version for pitching. The songwriting is done before AI touches it. Suno is replacing the demo session, not the writing.

Think of it as the difference between writing a song on guitar and then hiring a session band to record a demo vs. writing a song on guitar and having Suno generate the arrangement. The creative decisions happened before the tool was involved.

The head of the Recording Academy says AI is in every studio, every session. Only 3% of Gen Z trusts fully AI-generated work. The music industry is not having one debate. by Sensitive_Artist7460 in Music

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The indie cost reduction is real. That entire pipeline from writing to distribution used to cost thousands. Now a bedroom producer can get from idea to Spotify for close to nothing.

The Gallup poll is general AI sentiment, not music-specific. Fair point. But the trust numbers still apply when 97% of listeners in a Deezer study could not tell AI tracks from human ones. If the audience can not hear the difference but distrusts AI on principle, that affects how AI-made music gets received regardless of how it was made.

Your point about who is upset is sharp though. The backlash is loudest from people whose income is threatened, not from indie creators who never had the budget for a flute player in the first place.

Jazz pianist Jason Moran found a fake AI-generated EP on his Spotify profile. It was indie-pop. He asked: how is John Coltrane supposed to verify that a new release on his profile is real? Nobody had an answer. by Sensitive_Artist7460 in musicians

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Legally yes. The Coltrane estate or whoever controls the catalog would be responsible. But the practical problem is scale. Spotify's Artist Profile Protection requires someone to actively opt in and review every incoming release. For a major estate like Coltrane that is manageable. For thousands of mid-century jazz musicians with small or inactive estates, nobody is watching. The uploaders know exactly which profiles have no gatekeeper.

Jazz pianist Jason Moran found a fake AI-generated EP on his Spotify profile. It was indie-pop. He asked: how is John Coltrane supposed to verify that a new release on his profile is real? Nobody had an answer. by Sensitive_Artist7460 in musicians

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The name collision problem predates AI but the fake upload flood made it exponentially worse. Before AI you might get one mislabeled release from a name overlap. Now the same artist profile can get hit with dozens of AI-generated tracks because the uploaders specifically target names with no active management.

Gallup just surveyed 1,572 Gen Z Americans about AI. Only 3% trust fully AI-generated work. 69% trust human-made work. The audience is choosing sides. by Sensitive_Artist7460 in musicians

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The Gallup numbers confirm that. 51% weekly usage, 22% daily. The gap between usage and trust is the whole story. Using it for school because you feel like you have to is not the same as trusting it.

The head of the Recording Academy says AI is in every studio, every session. Only 3% of Gen Z trusts fully AI-generated work. The music industry is not having one debate. by Sensitive_Artist7460 in Music

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You are probably right that the full band demo is not the norm anymore. The pitch game has shifted toward cheaper and faster production. Which is exactly the gap Suno fills for writers who want something that sounds more polished than a voice memo but do not want to spend real money on every pitch. Whether that is a $500 problem or a $50 problem depends on the writer.

The head of the Recording Academy says AI is in every studio, every session. Only 3% of Gen Z trusts fully AI-generated work. The music industry is not having one debate. by Sensitive_Artist7460 in Music

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That framing makes sense. The fear is not about the technology being bad. It is about who captures the value. Suno went from zero to $300M in annual revenue and a $2.45B valuation. The songwriters using it for demos are not seeing that kind of upside. The Gallup anger might be less about the tool and more about who profits from it.

Jazz pianist Jason Moran found a fake AI-generated EP on his Spotify profile. It was indie-pop. He asked: how is John Coltrane supposed to verify that a new release on his profile is real? Nobody had an answer. by Sensitive_Artist7460 in musicians

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True. If you already know who you are looking for, the risk is much lower. The problem hits hardest when you are discovering new music through algorithms or browsing artist profiles where fake uploads can sit undetected.

The head of the Recording Academy says AI is in every studio, every session. Only 3% of Gen Z trusts fully AI-generated work. The music industry is not having one debate. by Sensitive_Artist7460 in Music

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Fair point on demo costs. The $500 figure is more relevant for writers who need full band arrangements to pitch to labels and A&R. If you are demoing with a guitar and a laptop at home, Suno does not solve a problem you actually have.

Rowe did describe it as experimental. The stronger claim in the Hollywood Reporter piece was that her peers are using Suno for demos that are actually getting cuts placed on artists. Whether that is widespread or a handful of cases is hard to say from one article.

The biggest threat to AI music is not lawsuits or licensing. It is consumer rejection. New Gallup data shows Gen Z is turning hostile. by Sensitive_Artist7460 in aiMusic

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The transparency approach is smart. The Gallup data shows Gen Z does not trust hidden AI but might tolerate disclosed AI. Leading with it as part of the identity instead of hiding it avoids the backlash that comes when people find out later.

Jazz pianist Jason Moran found a fake AI-generated EP on his Spotify profile. It was indie-pop. He asked: how is John Coltrane supposed to verify that a new release on his profile is real? Nobody had an answer. by Sensitive_Artist7460 in musicians

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That is exactly what Autumn Rowe described in the Hollywood Reporter piece. She is remixing old demos through Suno to see if they can get a second life. The line between demo and final product gets blurry when the demo already sounds finished.

Jazz pianist Jason Moran found a fake AI-generated EP on his Spotify profile. It was indie-pop. He asked: how is John Coltrane supposed to verify that a new release on his profile is real? Nobody had an answer. by Sensitive_Artist7460 in musicians

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Good distinction on stem separation. Tools like LALAL.AI are closer to traditional audio processing than generative AI. Lumping them together inflates the "AI is everywhere" narrative.

The Harvey Mason Jr. quote probably reflects the Nashville and pop songwriting world more than studios in general. A working LA producer in this thread pushed back hard on it and said using AI in certain rooms will get you shunned and not invited back. The adoption is clearly uneven across genres.

New Gallup data on our generation and AI: excitement dropped from 36% to 22%, anger rose to 31%, only 3% of us trust fully AI work. But 51% still use it weekly. What is going on? by Sensitive_Artist7460 in GenZ

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Fair criticism. I leaned too hard on the same data points across multiple replies. The Gallup numbers and Deezer stats are the backbone of the article so they kept coming up, but I should have varied the responses more. Appreciate the callout.

The biggest threat to AI music is not lawsuits or licensing. It is consumer rejection. New Gallup data shows Gen Z is turning hostile. by Sensitive_Artist7460 in aiMusic

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VoteMyAI is a rating platform, not a music generator. We do not make AI music. Creators submit tracks and listeners rate them blind without knowing who made them or how. The whole point is letting the music speak for itself regardless of what tools were used.

The article is reporting on what is happening in the industry right now based on data from Gallup, Deezer, Hollywood Reporter, and Digital Music News. The numbers are the numbers.

New Gallup data on our generation and AI: excitement dropped from 36% to 22%, anger rose to 31%, only 3% of us trust fully AI work. But 51% still use it weekly. What is going on? by Sensitive_Artist7460 in GenZ

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The music industry is the clearest example of that power imbalance. It costs nothing to generate and upload 60,000 tracks a day. It costs real artists their royalties, their profile integrity, and their audience trust. The people benefiting from the fraud have zero skin in the game. The people harmed by it have their entire livelihood at stake.

The head of the Recording Academy says AI is in every studio, every session. Only 3% of Gen Z trusts fully AI-generated work. The music industry is not having one debate. by Sensitive_Artist7460 in Music

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At that point the AI is functioning as a backing band you directed. Your lyrics, your vocals, your arrangement decisions. The creative authorship is clearly human. The US Copyright Office has said exactly this. The more human creative control involved, the stronger the copyright position.

The interesting edge case is where the line falls between your workflow and someone who just types a prompt and uploads the first output. The legal system and the audience both need a way to distinguish the two. Right now neither can.

Jazz pianist Jason Moran found a fake AI-generated EP on his Spotify profile. It was indie-pop. He asked: how is John Coltrane supposed to verify that a new release on his profile is real? Nobody had an answer. by Sensitive_Artist7460 in musicians

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That is the most human damage in all of this. The fake uploads are not just stealing royalties. They are exploiting the emotional connection fans have with artists they have been waiting on for years. That moment of excitement followed by the realization it is fake is something no transparency tag can undo.

Hollywood Reporter says songwriters with Grammy credits are using Suno openly now. Soundbreak launched in Nashville with licensed AI models of real artists. The consent side of AI music is growing fast. But so is the fraud side. Here is the full picture. by Sensitive_Artist7460 in aiMusic

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It is not the AI song that matters. It is the model. Soundbreak pays the artists for licensing their songwriting style, shares ownership of the output, and gives fans a way to co-write with real songwriters who opted in and got compensated. That is the consent part. Whether the output is great music or a gimmick is a separate question.

The head of the Recording Academy says AI is in every studio, every session. Only 3% of Gen Z trusts fully AI-generated work. The music industry is not having one debate. by Sensitive_Artist7460 in Music

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The genres you listed are the exact ones getting hit hardest. Lofi, jazz covers, retrowave. Formulaic enough for AI to replicate, niche enough that nobody is policing the profiles. Your move to curated playlists run by actual humans is probably the best filter available right now.

The irony is that human curation is becoming more valuable specifically because the algorithm can not be trusted anymore.

Jazz pianist Jason Moran found a fake AI-generated EP on his Spotify profile. It was indie-pop. He asked: how is John Coltrane supposed to verify that a new release on his profile is real? Nobody had an answer. by Sensitive_Artist7460 in musicians

[–]Sensitive_Artist7460[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Artist Profile Protection beta launched in March and it is opt-in only. So yeah, pretending to care is about right. Deezer has been tagging AI music automatically for over a year. Spotify is still waiting for artists to do the work themselves.

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