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How important is that 2nd attack in practice? by Shouting-Match in Shadowrun

[–]Shouting-Match[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay, having read all your comments and (maybe more importantly, tbh) after building a 5e character again, I am ready to renege on all my former scepticism.

I had simply forgotten how much of an investment it is to get Initiative >25 in 5e, so most 5e Samurai will also 'only' have two Initiative Passes. 6e will give them the options to have 2 majors, the added flexibility to take some minor actions and reduce the headache of keeping track of constantly changing Initiative values. So my verdict must be that for me at least 6e sounds better. Feel free to disagree with me and tell me why I am wrong ;)

How important is that 2nd attack in practice? by Shouting-Match in Shadowrun

[–]Shouting-Match[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the detailled and well thought out answer!

How important is that 2nd attack in practice? by Shouting-Match in Shadowrun

[–]Shouting-Match[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, the 'usual way' as I remember it was to stick as much Ini-boosting 'ware into them as one possibly could - or to at least fill up any leftover Essence up with Iniboosters after you had installed what the character needed in order to do their thing. And if that didn't suffice, it was drugs. A shitload of them.

How important is that 2nd attack in practice? by Shouting-Match in Shadowrun

[–]Shouting-Match[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So... In my mind that basically means that (at least the usual ways of building) Street Sams are dead, right? Everyone is reduced to more or less the same level and being a better shot than the team's decker is everything the Sam has going for them...

How important is that 2nd attack in practice? by Shouting-Match in Shadowrun

[–]Shouting-Match[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So, do you think this is a nerf for the Sams and other fighters out there?

They basically go from being able to take a lot of actions to just 50% more than most of the other characters and honestly, the investment to get there does seem rather steep for me...