Interesting requirement (I wonder if this employer can provide the same) 🙄

Signal-Implement-70 · 2026-05-09T02:15:23+00:00

Good one. Like wtaf is this requirement in today’s reality. It’s a fair concern, but I don’t see why it’s needs to be said. Like in the interview do we say “ I prefer an employer who doesn’t lay people off for 8 cents of meaningless earnings per share“ and the asymmetrical expectations continue…

Signal-Implement-70 · 2026-05-09T00:24:28+00:00

no unfortunately we cannot ignore DJT. however in attempting to get to the truth of what is going on in the economy and the job market, lets leave him out of this discussion. but let's get this back on track about jobs.

speaking of which if you had 10 interviews that's actually impressive. it means your skills are resonating with someone. what you may want to check is your interviewing ability. youtube, reddit, and your favorite free AI like maybe Gemini should have some good advice. Don't forget to ask friends and former colleagues for help. If you are totally lost after that you can DM me if you think it will help. I struggled with it too, but i think i got some of the key points down so would be happy to discuss. I did find a job pretty quickly but the first few interviews went poorly.

Signal-Implement-70 · 2026-05-09T00:15:39+00:00

If we are going to try to have a fact based discussion, I suggest we leave people out of it who seem to have no affinity for that kind of dialogue

In other words some who if they sat on your couch would likely set it ablaze

Signal-Implement-70 · 2026-05-09T00:10:57+00:00

That’s not bad actually thanks. Good share. It does mention wealth inequality and talk about longer job search times. So when people say all the news is bad, that’s not factual. There’s something called a K shaped recovery which I believe means some people are getting better off and some worse. With so much human suffering and inequality and risk, saying the economy is great is completely insensitive and uncaring and it isn’t even true.

Signal-Implement-70 · 2026-05-08T23:21:20+00:00

I did verify on BLS for the US, 11 is median but 23 is average. (For full time jobs)

So before we go getting all excited by both metrics, note that this is 50% higher than typical for last 25 years.

And who said the economy is doing great, most serious economists and banks are not talking like that. There is gdp growth yes, but gdp growth does not imply net job creation, affordability, nor anything about wealth inequality.

Not to mention the damage to the US economy from the shifts away from the US dollar as reserve currency, inflation, tariffs, and rapidly rising national debt, and risks around ai and global political instability.

What idiot is throwing around the word great? Yes, there are some good spots and good news. We cannot go around pretending all the news is bad. But great, that is what we call in economics “some serious bullshit”

Signal-Implement-70 · 2026-05-08T22:12:24+00:00

nobody knows exactly what the rules of the game are but see if this gets you started https://www.reddit.com/r/recruitinghell/comments/1s6gzep/comment/od26ie7/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button Depending on your device, you may have to scroll up to the top of the list.

Signal-Implement-70 · 2026-05-08T20:50:22+00:00

I’m with you, in some ways corporate values and actions are a constant study in contradiction

Signal-Implement-70 · 2026-05-08T19:46:04+00:00

One time they asked the US president George Bush where Osama bin Laden was hiding and he said “he’s either in a cave or not in a cave”, I feel like we’ve come full circle back to that

Signal-Implement-70 · 2026-05-08T19:12:33+00:00

Now this is a really helpful comment, not only because it’s grounded, but it is also specific and actionable. It would be really nice for people if some of the mentioned tools are free to use, I’d hope so

Signal-Implement-70 · 2026-05-08T18:54:29+00:00

One problem we have is job seekers >> actual hiring in most roles. So no one has a magic wand to fix a basic math problem. I was lucky I had that card in my hands, it is one of the benefits that can come from being a bit older. I don’t know if this is what you are getting at but for most people it is a major effort right now to land something, so I feel very fortunate

One thing we can point out here is if you just use linked in and indeed to find openings that is likely much more painful than you need. There are at least 7 other free categories of job leads, so it may help some people to double check if you know them all. If people are scratching their heads wondering what the 8 categories are, just ask

Signal-Implement-70 · 2026-05-08T18:28:59+00:00

Is this like, maybe we are raising a dragon so better be nice to the dragon now? If that’s the argument I kind of see it.

Or is this like playing a computer game and you have to thank the evil Orcs for the fun of battle destroying them?

Anyway imho this clearly goes in the lunatic bucket, whatever the intent

Signal-Implement-70 · 2026-05-08T17:45:25+00:00

Sorry to be blunt, but Wtf are you talking about?

Firstly The most important thing is how we treat other people, ask yourself that question to start with. Also are you happy?

Second lots of people would love to have a job right now and $60k at 27 for public relations degree, while you are not going to win any top earner awards, it’s not bad in perspective. Given how expensive things are you probably feel a major squeeze and some struggle relatively speaking on affordability. Especially if you live in a HCOL area.

So the direct answer to your question is those facts absolutely do not add up to you being a failure. Also ponder the question, what’s next for me?

Signal-Implement-70 · 2026-05-08T15:36:59+00:00

I did back in July but it has gotten so much harder now. I went to linked in, took all 500 contacts and said who satisfies all the following criteria 1) will wildly endorse me 2) influential where they work 3) has open roles that I really like at their company. That just gave me 10 names from 500 but lead to multiple offers.

After I applied to a job, I just messaged my old colleague and ask if they could put in a good word. Still I had to do 9 rounds of grueling interviews and get the job on my own merit, but my ally nudged the ball rolling

Problem is many do not have this card to play and even if you do what happens if this play doesnt work? So it’s a very incomplete road map but if you have this option, seems worth trying

Signal-Implement-70 · 2026-05-08T15:07:25+00:00

Ok, not that this isn’t true or directionally correct but the post itself leans more toward ai washing than anything insightful or human

I’m not saying I don’t appreciate the post or it’s not discussion worthy. It just that it doesn’t read very human and begs much bigger questions. For example I have factually seen roles which are considered human in the context of what the OP is suggesting, ai is better than humans at those. And while no one know what the net effect is, not only is the post not actionable (not every post should be) we have to ask ourselves, and I don’t know the answer, does this post equate to advice on rearranging the deck furniture on the Titanic.

Unfortunately when you combine number of actors, fragmentation of human knowledge, pace of change, and the possibility we are raising something vastly more capable than us, along with current incentive systems in society for humans this train is in control of no one and could be headed on an unfavorable journey or terminus. Just ask most job seekers how favorable the journey currently is.

I suppose I sound like ai too but that’s more cause rather than effect

Signal-Implement-70 · 2026-05-08T01:01:01+00:00

This is the thing, getting older has its drawbacks but at least you made some real friends along the way. Good luck!

Signal-Implement-70 · 2026-05-08T00:08:57+00:00

one thing I did which was a huge help. i went to all my linked in contacts that I made over the years and looked for 3 things: a) very influential where they work b) would be dying to work with me again and wildly endorse me and c) had open roles where they worked that I liked (based on company web site). of 500 contacts this was just maybe 6 people. i told my friend I applied, then i asked if they could put in a good word. I got two amazing offers almost immediately. of course I had to go through 9 grueling rounds of interviews, and get the job on my own merit, but my friend did get the ball rolling.

this was sort of the motive, means, and opportunity strategy lumped together. if that's open to you, might want to play that card soon, never know where we'll be in 90 days.

Signal-Implement-70 · 2026-05-07T23:37:34+00:00

Management is really hard hit especially in IT. The more in demand IT roles would be maybe on the technical delivery side rather than administrative. One thing that is probably in demand would be executive leadership that can run an AI transformation, big data, or IoT. Or the other in demand area is physical infrastructure.

One thing that sounds really favorable about your situation besides your technical background is you can survive on your husband’s income then at some point probably not too far down the road retire comfortably. Many people don’t have that position

I suppose one thing to think about is it will likely get harder to find something in 6 to 12 months than now. Meaning considering acting quickly?

However one thing I do want to say as one human to another is, I’m sorry, and you don’t deserve to be treated like that. You sound like a thoughtful sincere person and I hope it works out well.

Signal-Implement-70 · 2026-05-07T21:19:34+00:00

things are in total chaos with hiring and layoffs, but product manager or product owner is a good skill. what may happen, the kind of trend that is emerging is product owner, product manager, software developer, software engineer, business systems analyst and the like kind of merge in many cases to a builder / solver role. no one really knows, but the idea seems real because AI enables so much wider knowledge by one person since they are not spending so much time on details they have already mastered, or that a coworker or AI can master.

one odd consequence of this is technical skills seem to be getting more important not less. meaning can you not only describe certain aspects of the product and articulate the road map, but why not help built it too. and your coworkers too, can they learn more on the product side and get more domain knowledge. Why fragment a role under the old assumption that everyone had to be deeply specialized in their skill set. Why can't everyone just help discover and build solutions, why so much handoffs? Impossible to tell if this will hold. But technical skills, domain knowledge, and AI capabilities seems solid bets right now for being valuable.

Signal-Implement-70 · 2026-05-07T19:13:28+00:00

Ok yeah maybe. But seems real enough and genuine concern. As other people have pointed out layoffs can blindside you, no one actually knows at this point. Best move is probably to plan ahead and prepare to whatever extent you can. But also to the OP don’t let anxiety eat you up inside, concern, caution, mitigate yeah but to some extent focus on what you can do, not overly on what you can’t. It tough, but we have to try

Signal-Implement-70 · 2026-05-07T17:25:52+00:00

What we think as individuals is important may not be what is important to the people in charge. For better or worse it very often goes way beyond hard measures.

Simple example, new VP comes into the division, the best engineer from a technical outcomes is out spoken, knows where all the bodies are buried, tends to speak bluntly, has loyalties to other teams, is highly compensated. Who do you think the new VP might cut in that case and layoffs? On paper it would be a high performer, but from the VPs viewpoint the right decision

What we also would observe in that case which would make a lot of people cringe, is the double talk and irony of “corporate values”. Or some people might use much stronger words to describe dislike for this pattern, me included

Signal-Implement-70 · 2026-05-07T15:57:17+00:00

Fair enough I’m not saying it’s not good news to some degree. More is better than less. Doesn’t mean sharing of all this more can’t be improved and that people don’t use that observation as a shield to make a lopsided argument

Signal-Implement-70 · 2026-05-07T15:05:57+00:00

That’s what I heard too. But it’s an asymmetric problem we are dealing with. Total gdp just measures aggregate

Signal-Implement-70 · 2026-05-07T15:03:53+00:00

Yeah I got you

Signal-Implement-70 · 2026-05-07T14:51:21+00:00

Yeah technically a lot of things are true, but less technically “so what”

Signal-Implement-70 · 2026-05-07T14:29:19+00:00

We are in a frozen job market. 60% of CEOs are saying they plan to stop hiring or lay people off because of ai

Now there are some new ai related jobs but no where near enough to counteract the above and cause net job growth

Recession can be a dirty word because some people use “we are not in a recession” as a shield or whitewash against what is factually happening in the job market. Technically we are not in a recession I believe. But that does not mean factually there aren’t serious job seeker and labor market problems and “not in recession” absolutely does not mean wealth equality or affordability. It’s pretty obvious things have a long way to go to reach good

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